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Today's Topics:
1. AO-27 4 grid Operation 8Nov09 (John Papay)
2. Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for LEO
satellites (Rocky Jones)
3. Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for LEO
satellites (i8cvs)
4. Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for
LEOsatellites (Alan VE4YZ)
5. Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for
LEOsatellites (JoAnne Maenpaa)
6. So is P3E essentially dead at this point? (Michael Tondee)
7. Apology (w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
8. Re: SO-67 (Dale Hershberger)
9. ultimatecharger website (Pete Norris, K1HZU)
10. Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for LEO
satellites (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
11. Re: ultimatecharger website (Rocky Jones)
12. Re: ultimatecharger website (Rodney Waln)
13. Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for LEO
satellites (Alan P. Biddle)
14. Re: So is P3E essentially dead at this point? (Alan P. Biddle)
15. Re: ultimatecharger website (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
16. Re: ultimatecharger website (Roger Kolakowski)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:28:27 -0500
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 4 grid Operation 8Nov09
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Yesterday I took a short 40 minute drive to the intersection
of 4 grid squares, EN80, 81, 90 and 91. The intersection is
in a field in back of the Pilot Truck Stop on I-71 at Ohio SR83.
The EN90/91 line runs through the Pilot parking lot and the 4
corner intersection is about 400' off the pavement. The weeds
and thistles were quite high and attached themselves to shoes
and clothing. Other than that, it is an easy place to operate
from. I made 26 qsos with 25 different stations on the two
afternoon AO-27 passes. The western pass was very crowded so
not many qso's.
A special QSL card has been designed and will
be sent to everyone in the log. No return card necessary. You
can see the design on my qrz.com page. These are not rare grids
but it was my first time operating from a 4 corner intersection.
If you are looking for a change, try operating from another grid.
It doesn't have to be rare for you to have fun doing it. Use Google
Earth to scope out potential sites. Pack up your equipment and head
out!
73,
John K8YSE
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:29:30 -0600
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for
LEO satellites
To: <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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>
> In the US we have an old saying, "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth".
> It means do not be critical of others' generosity. It applies here. The
> Sumbandila team could have just ignored the amateurs and left no room
> for a secondary payload. As I understand it the repeater makes use of
> their secondary command and control radio system, which is likely why it
> is FM based. Frankly I am embarrassed by the complaining and such that
> has been posted on their blog and here on the -bb by a very few
> short-sighted amateurs.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
I concur it is nice of them to allow the "repeater"...
one can argue over what kind of amateur payload someone puts in "their
bird"...and it is pretty pointless since it is their bird for their purposes.
However at the least if it is going to use amateur frequencies, it should in
my view have a communication purpose otherwise we are going to see the bands
become cheap telemetry bands for payloads which more and more seem to have
nothing to do with amateur radio, other then using the frequencies.
anyway the freq sure sounded "wild"
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:34:47 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for
LEO satellites
To: "Idle-Tyme" <nss@xxx.xxx>, "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Joe, WB9SBD
The problem here with many new and young satellite operators is like to have
many young sparrow that don't know how good is the flavour of wheat
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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From: "Idle-Tyme" <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder forLEO
satellites
> I still to this day fail to see how hard it is to twist a VFO knob.
>
> Have we all become soo much appliance operators that we all have forgot
> to know how to turn a VFO knob to keep someone in tune?
>
> All my early days of Oscar operations we were constantly twisting the
> large knob. that is what it's for.
>
> wow. un real..
>
> Joe WB9SBD
>
> *The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> http://www.idle-tyme.com*
>
>
>
> OZ1MY wrote:
> > Hi,
> > The e-mail from I8CVS brings the issue up again.
> > Why not just be happy to get one more transponder for
> > us to use ?
> > If you do not want to use a FM transponder so that be it.
> >
> > It is interesting to note that there are far more operators on
> > the FM transponder satellites than on the linear satellites in
> > Low Earth Orbit.
> >
> > Anyway the choice is made by the ones who make and finance
> > the satellites and transponders.
> >
> > With a height of 500 km FM is probably the way to go.
> > The dopper shift is large. It may be a bad choice for a
> > linear transponder unless you assume that everyone are
> > using full doppler tracking :-)
> >
> > Sumbandilasat it a very good satellite for operators
> > working portable or mobile. The downlink is strong and it will be
> > better to use it once things settle down.
> > Every time we have a new satellite we have very many wanting to try
> > it out.
> >
> > I think we should say thank you to our friends in SA for a new one.
> >
> > 73 OZ1MY
> > Ib
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:14:23 -0600
From: "Alan VE4YZ" <ve4yz@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for
LEOsatellites
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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> i8CVS Domenico wrote...
> The problem here with many new and young satellite operators
> is like to have many young sparrow that don't know how good
> is the flavour of wheat
> Joe WB9SBD wrote
>
> I still to this day fail to see how hard it is to twist a VFO knob.
>
> Have we all become soo much appliance operators that we all have
> forgot to know how to turn a VFO knob to keep someone in tune?
> OZ1MY wrote:
> Why not just be happy to get one more transponder for us to use ?
> ...
> It is interesting to note that there are far moreoperators on the
> FM transponder satellites than on the linear satellites
> in Low Earth Orbit.
>
>...I think we should say thank you to our friends in SA for
> a new one.
I find it easy to on side with many of these and similar comments. I don't
believe they are mutually exclusive. It is easy to agree to all these. And
another BIG THANK YOU from EN19 too!
So rather than waiting for an expensive and probably impossible ride for an
AMSAT built satellite LEO or otherwise, FM vs Linear Transponder, perhaps it
is time for AMSAT UK, DL, NA et al to be proactive and DONATE a transponder
and antennas to the next university CubeSat or Pico sat project. Something
such as PE1RAH William Leijenaar's transponder board. A RFP to all those
universities now in the planning stages could be sent, an international
AMSAT review committee struck to evaluate the merits of those submissions
and then finally an annual ( or more often ) donation of the hardware. And
to heck with ITAR. If AMSAT NA is hamstrung then I authorize them to take
my life membership and transfer the remaining unused portion to AMSAT DL, UK
etc.
We buy, they ride and in the spirit of the "Delfi Model" we all win.
And then there is the Genso initiative to assist those universities in
near-whole-earth-orbit data acquisition.
Wow.. Why wouldn't they buy into that.
I've stated it here before and I'll repeat it. I don't believe we will ever
see another HEO. We amateurs need to connect with, mentor to and volunteer
for cube sat and pico sat efforts that are being initiated at the university
level. They have the funding, sweat equity and the rides.
And a final reminder, they don't need a ham licence to download telemetry
for their science experiments on UHF. They really don't need us. We need
them. UHF; we are the secondary user.
Well, actually one more final reminder. We cannot on one hand dumb
everything down to an FM HT experience and on the other hand with the AO-40
model do CC-Rider, baud rates in excess of 9K6 etc. There is even a smaller
installed base of equipment for those modes than the linear transponder SSB
on UHF and VHF. So I don't buy into the argument that FM is the only way to
go just because there are more handy talkies than SSB base stations. If
that was valid then AO-40 with all it's exotic modes should never have got
off the drawing board.
What would y'all do with a dozen FO-29's or VO-52's or a dozen DO-64's with
a working voice transponder or even a dozen SO-67's? They are being planned
and built right now all around that world in universities and they will be
flying with or without us. We can standby and wait. Then complain after
they are launched. Or you can check out what your local university is doing
right now and get involved. They all need to set up and learn how to run a
ground station and that is an expertise you have and they need. You can
train them to get their licences so they can do their command and control.
There are lots of ways to contribute other than writing a chegue.
We have a political saying up here "If you didn't vote, you have no business
complaining about your government". There is an analogy for amateur radio.
Stepping off the soap box...
73, Alan VE4YZ
EN19kv
AMSAT LM 2352
http://www.wincube.ca
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:46:36 -0600
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for
LEOsatellites
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000001ca6196$e0edccf0$a2c966d0$@xxx>
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It was mentioned ...
> We amateurs need to connect with, mentor to and volunteer
> for cube sat and pico sat efforts that are being initiated
> at the university level.
Hmmm, sounds close to what was discussed at the October Board of Director's
meeting and early information released on www.amsat.org ... and the ANS news
bulletins ... and more details coming via the AMSAT Journal ... plenty
already going on the university front!
[From the current amsat web page]
Key University Space Projects Under Development
Barry Baines, WD4ASW, AMSAT President reported at the Annual Meeting that
the Board of Directors has agreed to participate in two exciting
University-based cooperative programs.
* First, AMSAT is having serious discussions with the University of
Florida, Gainesville to locate the AMSAT Lab on campus. This will put our
lab in a state of the art engineering facility. This is also the home of the
UF SwampSat CubeSat development team.
* The Board of Directors has agreed to partner with SUNY-Binghamton and
the IBM Systems Engineering Integration Center to mentor senior level
engineering students for the development of the NextGen CubeSat as their
'capstone' engineering project. Projects at SUNY-Binghamton are planned to
initially address the development of deployable solar cells and super
capacitor power systems.
[From the AMSAT News Service posted after the BoD meeting and Symposium]
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-291.01
AMSAT Says "We're Going Back to Space"
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 291.01
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 18, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-291.01
The Board of Directors has adopted the Engineering Task Force
recommendation that low-cost launch options be immediately pursued.
The AMSAT engineering team will develop a 1U CubeSat design effective
immediately. Tony Monteiro, AA2TX, Vice-President of Engineering said,
"We are recommending an approach that gets AMSAT back up in space with
new satellites by leveraging the skills and technology we have today."
The new AMSAT CubeSat's initial capability is planned to add to the
popular low-earth orbit FM transponder fleet allowing hams to continue
to use their existing handheld and portable antenna systems. This also
allows an accessible entry path for new satellite operators to get
started. The existing FM satellites are starting to show their age.
The flight version of ARISSat-1 has been developed to fit into the
CubeSat model. AMSAT's flexible Software Defined Transponder (SDX),
simplified IHU, power control subsystem, external interfaces to ex-
perimental payloads and cameras will now allow a modular approach to
mission design using proven subsystems and components. The ARISSat-1
mission planned in 2010 will be the initial flight test of AMSAT's
modular satellite.
Here are some of the highlights ...
+ AMSAT will develop comparable AO-51 level of performance packaged
into a 1U CubeSat. This includes a U-V transponder, V telemetry,
U command receiver, IHU, power control. This can be done with our
modular design.
+ This will be a U/V FM Transponder, not done before in a 1U CubeSat,
which can be worked with a HT and a simple antenna. CubeSat power
limitations are planned to be addressed through research and devel-
opment of deployable solar-cells.
+ AMSAT will make our open-design satellite modules and technology
available for other satellite teams to build into their missions.
+ This new approach will provide a reliable radio link for future
CubeSats allowing university teams to concentrate on their scientific
objectives.
+ The modular nature of the AMSAT CubeSat system will allow add-on
missions utilizing several different types of modulation and band-
width. These can be pursued with future low-cost CubeSat launch
opportunities.
AMSAT President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW Annual Meeting Powerpoint
Presentation has been posted at http://www.amsat.org
[ANS thanks the AMSAT Board of Directors for the above information]
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-291.02
AMSAT, IBM, SUNY-Binghamton Announce NextGen CubeSat Development
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 291.02
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 18, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-291.02
AMSAT will work with a university student engineering team to
develop the NextGen Cubesat.
NextGen Program Manager, Alex Harvilchuck, N3NP introduced this new
program at the AMSAT Symposium. Alex revealed program goals and its
initial plans with a paper in the Proceedings and presentations to
the AMSAT Board of Directors and to the attendees during Symposium
sessions.
NextGen consists of AMSAT volunteer mentors working with IBM Global
Services Systems Engineering Division, and SUNY-Binghamton (also
called University of Binghamton) senior level engineering students
participating in their 'capstone' engineering project.
Alex summarized the NexGen program goals:
+ Intial analysis of ARISSat-1, documenting the systems, and analysis
of the lessons learned from ARISSat-1 and other prior spacecraft to
create a building block architecture for future satellites.
+ Open, modular, evolutionary, and documented design based on this
analysis.
+ Redesigning the ARISSat-1 Power Systems into a next generation power
system using supercapacitors instead of batteries and reducing the
footprint of some of the boards.
+ Analysis and modification to the structure to incorporate deployable
solar panels with a scalable design that will work for 1U, 2U and 3U
sizes.
+ Design a Picosat-class bus structure that AMSAT, or any other Univer-
sity, can use for 1U, 2U, or 3U CubeSat spacecraft. AMSAT could make
the open design available at low-to-no-cost to qualified University
groups.
+ An Engineering Model of the NextGen CubeSat spacecraft bus will be
on display at the Dayton Hamvention AMSAT Booth for everyone to
study.
Alex summarized, "Starting with our initial core team of 34 students,
plus advisers, mentors and volunteers at Binghamton University this
will be an ongoing effort. It is not a one time event, but the start
of a stable, evolutionary design process that will further STEM (Sci-
ence, Technology, Engineering & Mathematics) with the Next Generation
of engineers and amateur radio operators. We are looking for other
individuals and University/School teams to participate in all aspects
of the spacecraft design - RF Systems - Guidance, Navigation, Control
& Experiment Systems - Power & Structure Systems."
Volunteer mentors are needed! Even if you only have an hour a week,
you can mentor a student over the phone or you can peer review a
document that the students are working on. If you have more than an
hour a week, you can implement a small design change to an existing
subsystem; you could respin the board layout to meet a reduced form
factor; you could redesign a module to use different technology.
Contact Alex via e-mail at amsat@xxxxxx.xxx .
AMSAT's Board of Directors has approved the support of the University
of Binghamton NextGen Cubesat Proposal and agreed to provide $1,200.00
in immediate funding to the Binghamton Foundation to support student
expenses and initially budgeted $10,000.00 to cover material costs
associated with hardware development between September 2009 and May
2010. The Board will review progress at the end of the first semester.
[ANS thanks Alex, N3NP and AMSAT Board of Directors for the above
information]
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-291.03
Discussions Continue For New AMSAT Lab Site
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 291.03
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 18, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-291.03
AMSAT President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW discussed an opportunity under
serious discussions with the University of Florida, Gainesville to
locate AMSAT's satellite laboratory on campus.
Among discussions over the past 12 months, AMSAT has had conversa-
tions with several universities concerning a potential relationship.
This opportunity arose out of an amateur radio talk given at The
Villages ARC by Dave, AA4KN and Drew, KO4MA in April. This lead to
contact with UF's Dr. Norman Fitz-Coy. A Memorandum of Understanding
has been drafted and is currently under review by legal teams. At
this time there is no timeframe for bringing about a formal conclusion
as the MOU discussions continue and internal UF approval still needed.
Relocating the AMSAT Lab from the 'Eastern Shore' to 'The Swamp'
offers significant potential:
+ Location on a major university campus in a state-of-the-art building
+ Integrated into a facility focused on small satellite development
with clean room installation at the host's expense (not AMSAT)
+ Potential for student projects focused on AMSAT needs
+ Broadening of AMSAT's presence in the wider university community
+ Potential research/development opportunities for AMSAT and AMSAT
members
+ Establishing a program that offers significant traction for
education outreach
[ANS thanks AMSAT President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW for the above
information]
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
Editor, AMSAT News Service
Copy Editor, AMSAT Journal
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:30:03 -0500
From: Michael Tondee <mat_62@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] So is P3E essentially dead at this point?
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I'm following with interest the post on FM versus linear transponders.
Right now I'm in the middle of putting together and FM LEO station that
can later be made SSB/CW capable with the addition of a new rig which I
think I may be able to once again afford sometime after the first of the
year.
I've read all about the new direction Amsat NA is taking and I applaud
it as I think that's what's best.
I still wonder about Amsat DL and P3E though. I don't hear much of
anything anymore.
Last I heard, the figure Arianne space gave for launch was deemed beyond
reach and Amsat DL was going to try and get their government to help.
Just wondering what the status is. Is there still a chance we will see
it in orbit or is it just a poor dead bird mothballed in storage
somewhere now?
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:13:50 +0000 (UTC)
From: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Apology
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I apologize for not "holding my tongue" on the AO-51 0040z pass tonight. My
Irish blood got to me....
John W6ZKH
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:27:14 -0900
From: Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67
To: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen@xxx.xx>
Cc: amsat bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4AF8C172.6020304@xxxxxx.xxx>
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Henk, PA3GUO wrote:
>> Why not just be happy to get one more transponder for us to use ?
>> If you do not want to use a FM transponder so that be it.
>>
> ..
>
>> I think we should say thank you to our friends in SA for a new one.
>>
>
> 100% agreed upon Ib !
>
> Henk, PA3GUO
>
>
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>
I concur 100%. I feel we should all be thankful to have another
satellite up there that
has a FM transponder on it. We need to work with these institutions
and contribute our
constructive help to them. Amateur radio is usually a secondary payload.
Congratulations to SA on Sumbandila team.
Dale - KL7XJ
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:01:15 -0800 (PST)
From: "Pete Norris, K1HZU" <k1hzu@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ultimatecharger website
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Does W0LMD still maintain the "ultimatecharger" website, or has it been
changed? I have been on this website in the past, but I can no longer bring
it up.
Thanks,
Pete, K1HZU
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:08:53 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for
LEO satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hello, Ib!
> It is interesting to note that there are far more operators on
> the FM transponder satellites than on the linear satellites in
> Low Earth Orbit.
Very true. KO4MA spoke to this point at the AMSAT Symposium
in Baltimore last month, and I see this anytime I go out to hamfests
and struggle to work a couple of stations on nice VO-52 passes.
On AO-51 or SO-50 passes, many more than 2 QSOs are made.
I enjoy both the FM and linear satellites, and will continue working
both (including AO-7, which I'm now starting to try more often).
And, yes, all of this is 100% portable - perfect for road trips, and
air travel. :-)
> Sumbandilasat it a very good satellite for operators
> working portable or mobile. The downlink is strong and it will be
> better to use it once things settle down.
> Every time we have a new satellite we have very many wanting to try
> it out.
The SO-67 passes this weekend certainly brought out a large
crowd. Everyone trying to make some QSOs to give the new
satellite a workout. :-) The downlink is very easy to hear,
even if it takes a bit of work to get through the uplink. I am
looking forward to more opportunities to work this satellite.
> I think we should say thank you to our friends in SA for a new one.
Yes, a big "thank you" to the SA AMSAT crew for the amateur
payload, and the South African government and taxpayers for
allowing this payload on their satellite.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:14:12 -0600
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ultimatecharger website
To: <k1hzu@xxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W9B5AD5DD4B5A8E215E35BD6AB0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200205/msg00661.html
it seems to be gone
Robert WB5MZO
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:01:15 -0800
> From: k1hzu@xxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ultimatecharger website
>
> Does W0LMD still maintain the "ultimatecharger" website, or has it been
changed? I have been on this website in the past, but I can no longer bring
it up.
> Thanks,
> Pete, K1HZU
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:22:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Rodney Waln <kc0zhf@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ultimatecharger website
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hi, this is the best we can do,
it has been shut down for what ever reason,
but all the pages can be view here as well as other places on the web,
?
http://web.archive.org/web/*/ultimatecharger.com
?
Rodney
kc0zhf
?
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:25:28 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear transponder versus FM transponder for
LEO satellites
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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JoAnne covered a lot of ground. We are also working at having presences at
CubeSat and related meetings where many graduate and undergraduate students
are present. W5DID's initiative to institute a reduced rate for students in
AMSAT membership is a recognition of the need to attract, and keep, new
members whose careers will be in space science and technology. Reaching out
works both ways. It gets them interested in communications, not just
telemetry, and will make it easy to integrate communications packages in
research satellites.
> We amateurs need to connect with, mentor to and volunteer
> for cube sat and pico sat efforts that are being initiated
> at the university level.
Yep, we are doing that.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:26:07 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: So is P3E essentially dead at this point?
To: "'Amsat BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Michael,
AMSAT-DL, with the occasional support of other AMSAT organizations, is still
working on getting it launched. I expect that it will find a ride, probably
unexpectedly, as is often the case. It would be a tragedy to someday find
the launch article in a museum somewhere. However, it is clear that
launches beyond LEO are going to be few and far between for amateur
satellites. Hence the shift in emphasis you have noted.
Alan
WA4SCA
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Michael Tondee
Sent: 09 November, 2009 18:30
To: Amsat BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] So is P3E essentially dead at this point?
I'm following with interest the post on FM versus linear transponders.
Right now I'm in the middle of putting together and FM LEO station that
can later be made SSB/CW capable with the addition of a new rig which I
think I may be able to once again afford sometime after the first of the
year.
I've read all about the new direction Amsat NA is taking and I applaud
it as I think that's what's best.
I still wonder about Amsat DL and P3E though. I don't hear much of
anything anymore.
Last I heard, the figure Arianne space gave for launch was deemed beyond
reach and Amsat DL was going to try and get their government to help.
Just wondering what the status is. Is there still a chance we will see
it in orbit or is it just a poor dead bird mothballed in storage
somewhere now?
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:05:36 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ultimatecharger website
To: k1hzu@xxxx.xxx
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What happened when you e-mailad him to ask?
Pete Norris, K1HZU wrote:
> Does W0LMD still maintain the "ultimatecharger" website, or has it been
changed? I have been on this website in the past, but I can no longer bring
it up.
> Thanks,
> Pete, K1HZU
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:35:42 -0500
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ultimatecharger website
To: "Rodney Waln" <kc0zhf@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001a01ca6223$d92a83e0$0200a8c0@xxxxxxxx>
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Actually...if you follow the development of his website, it looks like
Robert, W0LMD, may have chosen to go "Off the Grid."
Roger
WA1KAT
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From: "Rodney Waln" <kc0zhf@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:22 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ultimatecharger website
hi, this is the best we can do,
it has been shut down for what ever reason,
but all the pages can be view here as well as other places on the web,
http://web.archive.org/web/*/ultimatecharger.com
Rodney
kc0zhf
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