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Today's Topics:

   1.  Satellite power levels (Andrew Rich)
   2.  SO-67 activation: 7/8 Nov 2009 (Jan-Albert Koekemoer)
   3. Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test (Andy MacAllister)
   4. Re: SO-67 activation: 7/8 Nov 2009 (Andrew Rich)
   5.  WB2OQQ- FN 41 Montauk Light House (Peter)
   6.  ANS-312 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (JoAnne Maenpaa)
   7.  SO-67 uplink? (Alan P. Biddle)
   8.  Yaesu FT-736R and HRD (Jean-Fran?ois M?nard)
   9. Re: Yaesu FT-736R and HRD (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
  10.  late QSL Cards (Douglas Anoman)
  11.  SO-67 (santanaamt@xxx.xxxx
  12. Re: Yaesu FT-736R and HRD (Jean-Fran?ois M?nard)
  13.  SO-67 8November2009 1417z Audio File (John Papay)
  14.  SO-67 (Dave Marthouse)
  15.  SO-67: 11/08/09 1552 US pass sounded good! (Bruce Sawtelle)
  16.  SO-67 Audio 8Nov2009 1552z over US (John Papay)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:11:37 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Satellite power levels
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4E43AAB883FB4905B9983D5E028D9FB9@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I am trying to gauge what power levels ham satellites use and what is the
rough expected outcome.

For example 100mW CW on UHF seems pretty weak, but 5 W from SO-67 seems to
be pretty strong.

>From reports, 5 W is HT material.

I have sent 100 mW from a glider, and we got around 3 - 7 km's

Maybe the birds have gain ant pointed at earth ?

These cubesats, what sort of power do they run ?

Andrew VK4TEC

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:51:31 +0200
From: "Jan-Albert Koekemoer" <jan.koekemoer@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO-67 activation: 7/8 Nov 2009
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: sumbandila@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<7D5AF80924991449B40C9CB717C7A69101D7B7B1@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello

We intend to schedule the FM V/U cross-band repeater on Sumbandila as follows
(all times in UTC; all activations 13 minutes duration):

Sat 7 Nov 2009:
22:46 (Australia)

Sun 8 Nov 2009:
00:05 (Japan)
00:21 (Australia)
00:58 (South America)
03:15 (Central Asia / India)
07:59 (Europe)
09:34 (UK)
12:56 (South America)
14:18 (Eastern USA)
15:52 (Central USA)

The CTCSS tone for the transponder is 233.6 Hz.

Uplink:  145.875MHz
Downlink:  435.345MHz

Additional recommendations:
Use only narrow FM
Switch off compression
Speak softly (mic gain down)

Satellite characteristics:
All antennas are linear vertically polarized (1/4 wavelength)
Sat Tx power = 5W
Sat Rx sensitivity = -116.5dBm for 12dB SINAD
Max antenna gain = 4dBi

Note that the satellite is currently in a controlled sun tracking mode with
antennas Nadir pointing.

Apologies for the late notification, but we're still in the commissioning
phase and can therefore not guarantee the SA-AMSAT payload service far ahead
in time.  Since we're using the same (shared) transponder for TT&C purposes
at present, we can unfortunately not schedule the payload over RSA on
Saturday.

You're welcome to provide feedback on the Sumbandila Group @
http://groups.google.com/group/sumbandila

Regards
Jan-Albert (ZR1JAK)
Sumbandila Ground Control Team


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:00:56 -0600
From: "Andy MacAllister" <w5acm@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <69DBD0289F1B47FDAC000B7D376E0166@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

For the 1614Z pass, I made it a point to stay centered in the uplink, i.e. a
few kHz of appropriate Doppler correction on 2M as SO-67 went by. This
helped also.
Andy W5ACM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>; "Kostas Ioannidis"
<kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:38 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test


> Yes it did help...2.5 KHz it is...
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
> To: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>; "Kostas Ioannidis"
> <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
>
>
>> Hi Roger and the -bb,
>> From memory it takes up less than 12.5 kHz which is the
>> channel spacing on 2 meters (In Region 1 at least).
>> Frequency deviation like 2.5 kHz (old 3.5 kHz and even some
>> have 5 kHz deviation).
>> It is the frequency deviation that is a the issue with SO-67 (I think).
>> If you run too high deviation on the uplink the LF to the transmitter
>> will
>> make it deviate too much. Even for a normal (old) setting on the receive
>> side.
>>
>> The Carson rule says: Signal Bandwidth = 2 times (Deviation + modulation
>> frequency).
>>
>> Did that help ?
>> 73 OZ1MY
>> Ib
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
>> To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>; "Kostas Ioannidis"
>> <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
>>
>>
>> > How "narrow" is FMN?
>> >
>> > Roger
>> > WA1KAT
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
>> > To: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB"
>> > <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:40 AM
>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi Kostas,
>> > > If you do not have FMN on your radio, turn the mike gain down and/or
>> > > do not shout :-)
>> > > 73 OZ1MY
>> > > Ib
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>
>> > > To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:20 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Goodmorning,
>> > > > As the previous operator said thank you a lot for this great
> sounding
>> > > > sat! It was booming all tha pass.
>> > > > A lot of traffic on the air! But the narrow FM is an issue for
>> > > > those
>> > > > who do not use it...
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 73 de SW1IXP
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
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>> program!
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:34:11 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 activation: 7/8 Nov 2009
To: "Jan-Albert Koekemoer" <jan.koekemoer@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: sumbandila@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <973ACEA83048464CA51C1E3AF0AE13E3@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

> Sat 7 Nov 2009:
> 22:46 (Australia)

+ Brisbane Queensland Australia - mobile
+ 435.345 FM - S3 on mobile Diamond dual band antenna and Kenwood D710A
+ 435.345 FM - opened squelch on ICOM R20 FM sitting on passenger seat -
telescopic antenna
+ Lots of stations - some over deviating something cronic.
+ Doppler was 435.350 to 435.330 MHz
+ Voice only contacts heard

Andrew VK4TEC



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan-Albert Koekemoer" <jan.koekemoer@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <sumbandila@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 activation: 7/8 Nov 2009


> Hello
>
> We intend to schedule the FM V/U cross-band repeater on Sumbandila as
> follows
> (all times in UTC; all activations 13 minutes duration):
>
> Sat 7 Nov 2009:
> 22:46 (Australia)
>
> Sun 8 Nov 2009:
> 00:05 (Japan)
> 00:21 (Australia)
> 00:58 (South America)
> 03:15 (Central Asia / India)
> 07:59 (Europe)
> 09:34 (UK)
> 12:56 (South America)
> 14:18 (Eastern USA)
> 15:52 (Central USA)
>
> The CTCSS tone for the transponder is 233.6 Hz.
>
> Uplink:  145.875MHz
> Downlink:  435.345MHz
>
> Additional recommendations:
> Use only narrow FM
> Switch off compression
> Speak softly (mic gain down)
>
> Satellite characteristics:
> All antennas are linear vertically polarized (1/4 wavelength)
> Sat Tx power = 5W
> Sat Rx sensitivity = -116.5dBm for 12dB SINAD
> Max antenna gain = 4dBi
>
> Note that the satellite is currently in a controlled sun tracking mode
> with
> antennas Nadir pointing.
>
> Apologies for the late notification, but we're still in the commissioning
> phase and can therefore not guarantee the SA-AMSAT payload service far
> ahead
> in time.  Since we're using the same (shared) transponder for TT&C
> purposes
> at present, we can unfortunately not schedule the payload over RSA on
> Saturday.
>
> You're welcome to provide feedback on the Sumbandila Group @
> http://groups.google.com/group/sumbandila
>
> Regards
> Jan-Albert (ZR1JAK)
> Sumbandila Ground Control Team
>
>
> E-mail Disclaimer
> http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:03:47 -0500
From: Peter <roi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  WB2OQQ- FN 41 Montauk Light House
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <002601ca6018$0acbf220$6901a8c0@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252

Hello All,

I plan to be operating tomorrow, November 8th, on the 18:48 UTC pass of
AO-27.  I will be using my Yaesu FT 50 R and the Diamond SRH 789 Antenna,
this will be a brief test for a future special event.  As many of you know
this grid, FN 41 is special in that it is on Long Island, NY in the shadow
of the Montauk Lighthouse.  I will sign my QSL card with the Lighthouse, no
need to SASE, thank you.

73,
Pete, WB2OQQ



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:17:00 -0600
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ANS-312 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001301ca6019$8e71c4f0$ab554ed0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-312

ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North
America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the
activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an
active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating
through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor@xxxxx.xxx

In this edition:

* ARISS Prepares Amateur Radio Equipment for ISS
* AMSAT Board Votes to Add a Student Membership
* November AO-51 Schedule Includes V, U, L, SSTV
* SO-67 Testing Progress
* Dish Calculation Software Released by VK3UM
* Satellite Shorts From All Over

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-312.01
ARISS Prepares Amateur Radio Equipment for ISS

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 312.01
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
November 8, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-312.01

ARISSat-1 development work as well as the testing and delivery of
the Amateur Radio antennas for the ISS Columbus module have been
mentioned in prior week's news coverage. Now, as these projects
prepare for space flight, is a good time for a summary report.

Columbus Module Antennas Ready for Flight
-----------------------------------------
Rosalie White, K1STO reported on ARISS Columbus module antenna work
via a feature story on the ARRL Web. She described Lou McFadin's
W5DID, work on getting the antenna shipment from Europe cleared
through customs and delivered to the Kennedy Space Center. Lou showed
the astronauts the best ways for them to safely unpack and assemble
the antennas and associated cables once they and the hardware reach
the ISS. They reviewed how to maneuver and install the antennas during
the second spacewalk of the STS-129 scheduled for Mid-November. These
new antennas will increase opportunities for hams to make contacts with
astronauts and cosmonauts. Frequencies available for transmission to
and from Columbus will be 2 meters, 70 centimeters, L-band and S-band.
To start, the two Ericcson radios (2 meters and 70 centimeters) that
are already on the ISS (but seldom used) will be moved and installed
in Columbus. Lou McFadin reported that the antennas are now loaded in
the Shuttle and waiting for the November launch. Lou also developed a
cable that will allow the astronauts to power the Ericsson radio from
a computer power brick and get a station up and operating quickly.

ARISSat-1 Development Team Meets in Phoenix
-------------------------------------------
Many of the ARISSat team met in Phoenix over the weekend of Oct 23-25
to work on software integration, to assemble the spaceframe and to
make final measurements for the new cables. The team put in long hours
at the Microchip facility where a number of new milestones were met.

+ The satellite was commanded via a radio.
+ New PSU (power supply unit) board was tested in the system.
+ New ICU (Interconnect board) was tested in the system.
+ New MPPT (Max Power Point Tracker) boards were tested with
  solar panels.
+ New solar panel test structure was built and used to test the
  power system.
+ The new 1k BPSK error correcting data was transmitted and received.
+ New telemetry data was transmitted.
+ Received data from the Russian experiment simulator and
  transmitted it.
+ Basic spaceframe was constructed.
+ The US made Ag-Zn battery was assembled and activated and will be
  available for testing.

The team is working hard to get the satellite completely operational by
early Dec 2009, when in-depth system testing will begin. A NASA Safety
Briefing for ARISSat-1 was held on Thursday 22 Oct 2009. The team was
well prepared and only have a few items to provide additional descrip-
tions for at the next safety review in December 2009.

The ARISSat-1 team also invites students from around the world to
submit papers or other visual items that will be flown on the satel-
lite.  Submissions should be in jpg or pdf format such as a paper or
a study done on science, technology, engineering, or math. Items such
as a drawing of space craft, schematic, journal kept on an educational
topic, a story, photo or news article about a class doing a hands on
educational project are acceptable. The deadline for submission is on
Sunday, November 15, 2009. Send your files via e-mail to Dave, AA4KN
(aa4kn at amsat.org) with a Cc: to Gaston, ON4WF, gaston (dot) bertels
(at) skynet (dot) be.

[ANS thanks ARISS and the ARRL for the above information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-312.02
AMSAT Board Votes to Add a Student Membership

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 312.02
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
November 8, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-312.02

During the November 3, 2009 Board meeting the motion to add a student
membership category was unanimously approved. The student membership
will be one half of the current membership. Until we update the web
site and membership forms, please contact Martha at the AMSAT office
to join at the student rate.

The approved motion reads:

"In order to expand its educational outreach efforts, AMSAT-NA esta-
blishes a student category of membership. The yearly rate will be half
the standard applicable rate, and shall be available to all students
in primary and secondary school.  Post-secondary school students enrol-
led in at least half time status shall be eligible for a maximum of 6
post-secondary years in this status. In addition, the student membership
application should indicate:
1) school attending.
2) course of study.
3) expected graduation date."

[ANS thanks the AMSAT Board of Directors for the above information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-312.03
November AO-51 Schedule Includes V, U, L, SSTV

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 312.03
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
November 8, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-312.03

The AO-51 Control Team has posted the satellite schedule for the
month of November and the first week of December:

November 6 - November 12
-------------------------
FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM

9k6 BBS, L/U
Uplink: 1268.700 MHz 9k6 FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz 9k6 FM

November 13 - November 15
-------------------------
ZS1LS requested a weekend of the QRP repeater for the AMSAT-SA
group to use. QRP gets such little use here, and we had a request
for SSTV, so we are going for dual use this weekend.

FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM

FM repeater, V/U SSTV and AMSAT-SA Event
Uplink: 145.880 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM

November 16 - November 19
-------------------------
38k4 BBS, L/U
Uplink: 1268.700 MHz 9k6 FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz 38k4 FM

November 20 - November 25
-------------------------
FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM

9k6 BBS, L/U
Uplink: 1268.700 MHz 9k6 FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz 9k6 FM

November 26 - November 29
-------------------------
FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM

FM repeater, L/U
Uplink: 1268.700 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM

November 30 - December 6
-------------------------
For the reversal, the Control Team is going to use the chargeable
magnet to reverse the orientation of AO-51 so the downlink antennas
and the L/S antenna will favor the southern hemisphere.

We have not done this before. We'll need as many quantitative obser-
vations before and after the flip as possible, especially from the
Southern Hemisphere. Tentative plans are to flip it on a Tuesday or
Wednesday after collecting some 5 second telemetry WOD files as a
baseline.

FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM

9k6 BBS, L/U
Uplink: 1268.700 MHz 9k6 FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz 9k6 FM

The latest AO-51 Control Team news can be found on-line at:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/CTNews.php

[ANS thanks Mark N8MH, Drew KO4MA and the AO-51 Control Team for
 the above information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-312.04
SO-67 Testing Progress

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 312.04
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
November 8, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-312.04

South African amateur radio operators testing on the Sumbandila
SO-67 satellite have reported receiving very strong downlink
signals. Occasionally the satellite beacon was not copied but
the parrot repeater and transponder were operational. The SO-67
operations team posted these hints for operation:

The CTCSS tone for the transponder is 233.6 Hz.

Uplink:    145.875MHz
Downlink:  435.345MHz

Additional recommendations:
Use only narrow FM
Switch off compression
Speak softly (mic gain down)

Satellite characteristics:
All antennas are linear vertically polarized (1/4 wavelength)
Sat Tx power = 5W
Sat Rx sensitivity = -116.5dBm for 12dB SINAD
Max antenna gain = 4dBi

Video taken by Sumbandila satellite at 500km received over S-band at
the ground station in Stellenbosch, South Africa can be seen at:
http://tinyurl.com/yg4mymz

[ANS thanks SA-AMSAT for the above information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-312.05
Dish Calculation Software Released by VK3UM

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 312.05
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
November 8, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-312.05

Although principally designed for the EME community VK3UM's
EMECalc Ver. 7.00 software also contains tools that satellite
dish users may find useful.

Doug, VK3UM says his software provides the capability to select
various feed types (derived from Paul W1GHZ simulations), and match
it your own dish f/d. This allows prediction of spill over and then
simplies the correct selection of a feed to match your dish.  This
match provides several dB of performance improvement.

The software in a zip format may be obtained from
http://sm2cew.com/download.htm
http://www.ve1alq.com/vk3um/
http://www.vk3bez.org/vk3um_software.htm (available shortly)

[ANS thanks Doug, VK3UM for the above information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-312.06
Satellite Shorts From All Over

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 312.06
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
November 8, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-312.06

+ Watch for possible AO-51 operation from the 2009 DXpedition to
  Miquelon with Eric, KV1J and Tom, W8TOM operating as FP/homecall
  between November 7-15. Miquelon Island is also desginated NA-032,
  the grid square is GN17TC. QSL via home calls, direct or bureau.
  Further information at: http://www.kv1j.com/fp/october09.html

+ Trevor, M5AKA says there are 3 KiwiSAT videos on YouTube:
  View them via the SouthGate site at: http://tinyurl.com/ylepffp

+ SwissCube has an application that allows amateur stations in
  range of the spacecraft to listen and forward the BPSK downlink
  data to the SwissCube team. Details are at:
  http://swisscube-live.ch/RadioAmateurs/DownlinkForwarder
  Note - you need to register to use this application.

+ Pedro, LU7ABF reported AMSAT-Argentina's satellite predictor page
  can be found at http://amsat.org.ar/?f=d  After setting your grid
  locator you get next passes in local time at your location.

+ Doug, KA8QCU reminds hams going to the Ft. Wayne, Ind. Hamfest,
  Nov. 14-15 that there will be an AMSAT Forum on Sat. the 14th at
  1:15pm. More info at: http://www.fortwaynehamfest.com

+ Jim, N8OQ is collecting AO-7 telemetry from the anomalous 435.1 MHz
  RTTY telemetry event during February and March 2009. Good quality
  telemetry is defined as being collected continuosly for at least 4
  minutes during a pass. Jim is also interested in any archives of
  AO-7 telemetry the "early days" before 1981 if any exists. Contact
  Jim via e-mail at: deyoung_james (at) yahoo.com

+ Satellite hams following the news about Neil's W6FOG sailing trip
  will be pleased to hear he has recovered and plans to be back out
  to sea soon. As of November 2 Neil had survived very bad weather
  and high seas along with hypothermia. The sea was so heavy his tow
  line to the Coast Guard cutter broke three times during the rescue.
  When he heads out this weekend his plans are to travel along the
  west coast to the Panama Canal and to the Caribbean.

+ November 5 was OSCAR College Station Satellite Night. Please for-
  ward reports and comments/observations to Dr. Jay Garlitz, AA4FL
  at the University of Florida via jgarlitz@xxx.xxx.

+ Jeff, WB3JFS is compiling a list of "most wanted grids". Send your
  list via e-mail by November 14 to <callsign>@xxxxx.xxx. Please do
  not send any "water grids" since any operation from them is spor-
  adic and most cases, impractical to activate for most of us.

[ANS thanks everyone for the above information]



In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors
to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive additional benefits.
Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. And, with that
ponder the question why don't skeletons cross the road? Its probably
because they don't have the guts.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM
K9JKM at amsat dot org



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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:11:01 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO-67 uplink?
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4888EE7B995F4123A9314A5D217728EE@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I noticed that the downlink is a bit off the _current_ published
frequencies.  Right now the congestion is far too high to do tests on North
American passes, but has anyone elsewhere with good Doppler correction
software had a chance to tune around for the optimum uplink?

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA




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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:47:00 -0500
From: Jean-Fran?ois M?nard <jf.va2ss@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Yaesu FT-736R and HRD
To: AMSAT Mailing list <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4AF6CBD4.5000000@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi,

I know that the Yaesu FT-736R is quite a bit old... but it is an
excellent rig with his limitation, of course.

I bought one on a recent hamfest here in Quebec.... better than running
2 FT-817ND to do the comlete full duplex.... FT-736R has more "ears" too
of course.

I'm a beginner, and cannot afford another sat rig for now, and this one
is really do the job for me. But I have difficulty to see a brilliant
futur for this radio with next generation software like HRD.

Why only SatPC32 is able to fully support this rig while HRD can't !?!?

73

--
Jean-Fran?ois M?nard
VA2SS

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
AMSAT www.amsat.org / Member #37102
ARRL  www.arrl.org
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:24:27 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-736R and HRD
To: Jean-Fran?ois M?nard <jf.va2ss@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT Mailing list <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4AF6D49B.8020400@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

No software can "fully support" that rig because it is not possible to read
the VFO frequency. It doesn't have the CAT
command to do that.
The first thing that HRD does is read your radios frequency.

Jean-Fran?ois M?nard wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know that the Yaesu FT-736R is quite a bit old... but it is an
> excellent rig with his limitation, of course.
>
> I bought one on a recent hamfest here in Quebec.... better than running
> 2 FT-817ND to do the comlete full duplex.... FT-736R has more "ears" too
> of course.
>
> I'm a beginner, and cannot afford another sat rig for now, and this one
> is really do the job for me. But I have difficulty to see a brilliant
> futur for this radio with next generation software like HRD.
>
> Why only SatPC32 is able to fully support this rig while HRD can't !?!?
>
> 73
>

--
Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA.  tel +1 937
825 5032
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx       www 
http://www.ngunn.net
Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548,  Flying Pigs QRP
Club International #385,
            Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS,  ALC,
GCARES, XWARN.



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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:28:57 +0000
From: Douglas Anoman <danoman@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  late QSL Cards
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL108-W51B98A7902BF1CC24C13CEDAAD0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Sorry Everyone I've been late or have not got anyone there qsl card's, If i
have missed someone please e-mail me and I'll get on it asap. I've been
helping out a friend who's 6 year old son has brain cancer, If anyone can
Help me i'm trying to raise money to help him get treatment and caught up
with bill's you can e-mail me any time. I could really us some help.........



Thanks Again

Thank You
Douglas Anoman
KC9MLN
KC9MLN@xxxxx.xxx
Amsat #37043





 		 	   		

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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:37:18 -0500
From: santanaamt@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO-67
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CC2E981B715CA1-55FC-236DC@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Just heard SO-67 a few minutes ago, and wow! darn! it sounds strong! Heard 2
stations plus K8YSE and KO4MA and I think XE2EX . . . even thou the was a
small window/pass here. the frequency was in just the 435.345 Mhz.

Angel-WP3GW


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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:37:34 -0500
From: Jean-Fran?ois M?nard <jf.va2ss@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-736R and HRD
To: "Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT Mailing list <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<b6cfdc060911080637x325c5b7ex32eb1b7192495462@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I understand, but is there a way to support this rig anyway ? SatPC32 offer
a good compromise when using this rig without the vfo reading..... you only
control the radio for the software... no vfo dial.... that is not a real
problem for me.

I understand too that this request could ask a lot of work in HRD...

Ok thanks for the answer. I will stick with SatPC32.... hopefully, I really
like this software.

73

Le 8 novembre 2009 09:24, Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx> a ?crit :

> No software can "fully support" that rig because it is not possible to read
> the VFO frequency. It doesn't have the CAT command to do that.
> The first thing that HRD does is read your radios frequency.
>
>
> Jean-Fran?ois M?nard wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know that the Yaesu FT-736R is quite a bit old... but it is an excellent
>> rig with his limitation, of course.
>>
>> I bought one on a recent hamfest here in Quebec.... better than running 2
>> FT-817ND to do the comlete full duplex.... FT-736R has more "ears" too of
>> course.
>>
>> I'm a beginner, and cannot afford another sat rig for now, and this one is
>> really do the job for me. But I have difficulty to see a brilliant futur
for
>> this radio with next generation software like HRD.
>>
>> Why only SatPC32 is able to fully support this rig while HRD can't !?!?
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
> --
> Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA.  tel +1
> 937 825 5032
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx       www
>  http://www.ngunn.net
> Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548,  Flying Pigs QRP
> Club International #385,
>           Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS,  ALC,
> GCARES, XWARN.
>
>


--
Jean-Fran?ois M?nard
VA2SS

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
AMSAT www.amsat.org / Member #37102
ARRL  www.arrl.org
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:40:20 -0500
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO-67 8November2009 1417z Audio File
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <115513.31397.qm@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

The SO-67 pass over the eastern US on 8 November
2009 at 1417z is on my webserver:

http://www.papays.com/SO-67_08Nov2009_141641z.mp3

73,
John K8YSE EN91dh





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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:45:05 -0500
From: "Dave Marthouse" <dmart@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO-67
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004b01ca6082$114f38e0$6600000a@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Just for fun I attempted to hear SO-67 on the 1416UTC pass this morning.  It
was orbit 790 with a max elevation of 79 degrees.  I was using my TH-F6A
with stock rubber duck antenna.  A few minutes into the pass out of the
noise came the signal.  For this minimal setup signals were rather strong. 
I knew I would have no problem hearing the bird with my crossed yagis on the
tower but I wanted to see how I could push the minimalist envelope with just
a stock ht.  I was pleasantly surprised with the strong signals. 
Congratulations to amsat sa etc on a fine new addition to the amateur
satellite service.


Dave Marthouse N2AAM
dmart@xxxx.xxx


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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:14:07 -0500
From: Bruce Sawtelle <w3nj@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO-67: 11/08/09 1552 US pass sounded good!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CC2EA5A236B6D8-B2BC-16640@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"




 Good signals (peaked mid scale) on Knwd TH-G71 handheld with simple Comet
dual band whip. Great accomplishment by the team of SO-67!! Will need to try
TX next time. Heard W5ACM and others very strong.

73
Bruce -W3NJ





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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:03:56 -0500
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO-67 Audio 8Nov2009 1552z over US
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <748762.85302.qm@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

The audio file of the 1552z 8November2009 SO-67 pass
over the central US is on my webserver:

http://www.papays.com/SO-67_08Nov2009_155053z.mp3

It is not clear as to why you get a few seconds of
transmission and then are cut off.  Since the satellite
is being turned on for a specific period of time, one
way to determine the effect of the sub-audible tone is
to simply turn it off and put the bird in carrier squelch
mode.  The repeater is on continuously anyway for the
duration of the time period.  Having no PL tone will
allow us to see if it is something else that is causing
the drop outs, for example, over deviation, multiple carriers
etc.  The PL tone is very close to the normal speech frequencies
and that can cause problems.  Tone frequencies between 100Hz
and 150Hz will still decode quickly and not be subject to speech
audio interfering with the decoding process.  Just some ideas
for consideration.

This was only a 12 degree pass for me here in Ohio, however,
I copied the bird on this pass using the new Alnico DJ-G7 handheld
with the stock rubber duck antenna.  Signals were amazingly strong
although subject to severe fading at times.  It should be possible
to work through this satellite with a rubber duck antenna once the
access problems are minimized.  This will bring many more amateurs
to the satellite part of the hobby and may peak their interest to
be able to hear the weaker satellites as well.

Congratulations to AMSAT-SA for designing and launching this amazing
satellite.  We look forward to having it around for many years.

73,
John K8YSE EN91dh Ohio


John Papay
john@xxxxxx.xxx



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