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Today's Topics:
1. Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test (Roger Kolakowski)
2. Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test (OZ1MY)
3. Tone (Jack Barbera)
4. Re: SA-AMSAT payload activation on SO-67 (Luc Leblanc)
5. Re: SA-AMSAT payload activation on SO-67 (ps8rf Piraja)
6. SatPC32 not switching modes on 910H (K7WIN - Jeff)
7. SO-67 pass over North America (Kevin Groth)
8. SO-67 Recording 7Nov09 1613z (John Papay)
9. Re: SatPC32 not switching modes on 910H (Erich Eichmann)
10. Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test (Roger Kolakowski)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:03:17 -0500
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>, "Kostas Ioannidis"
<kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001401ca5fb3$14ead740$0200a8c0@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
How "narrow" is FMN?
Roger
WA1KAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
To: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:40 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
> Hi Kostas,
> If you do not have FMN on your radio, turn the mike gain down and/or
> do not shout :-)
> 73 OZ1MY
> Ib
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
>
>
> > Goodmorning,
> > As the previous operator said thank you a lot for this great sounding
> > sat! It was booming all tha pass.
> > A lot of traffic on the air! But the narrow FM is an issue for those
> > who do not use it...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 73 de SW1IXP
> >
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:29:32 +0100
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
To: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>, "Kostas Ioannidis"
<kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000e01ca5fae$573f60c0$6501a8c0@xxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Roger and the -bb,
>From memory it takes up less than 12.5 kHz which is the
channel spacing on 2 meters (In Region 1 at least).
Frequency deviation like 2.5 kHz (old 3.5 kHz and even some
have 5 kHz deviation).
It is the frequency deviation that is a the issue with SO-67 (I think).
If you run too high deviation on the uplink the LF to the transmitter will
make it deviate too much. Even for a normal (old) setting on the receive
side.
The Carson rule says: Signal Bandwidth = 2 times (Deviation + modulation
frequency).
Did that help ?
73 OZ1MY
Ib
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>; "Kostas Ioannidis"
<kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
> How "narrow" is FMN?
>
> Roger
> WA1KAT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
> To: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB"
> <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:40 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
>
>
> > Hi Kostas,
> > If you do not have FMN on your radio, turn the mike gain down and/or
> > do not shout :-)
> > 73 OZ1MY
> > Ib
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>
> > To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
> >
> >
> > > Goodmorning,
> > > As the previous operator said thank you a lot for this great sounding
> > > sat! It was booming all tha pass.
> > > A lot of traffic on the air! But the narrow FM is an issue for those
> > > who do not use it...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73 de SW1IXP
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:38:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Jack Barbera <barberaalderwood@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tone
To: Amsat Reflector <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <707938.66031.qm@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Thanks everyone for the info on?tone input for my 910.will install today and
see what happens
?Jack WA1ZDV
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:15:29 -0500
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SA-AMSAT payload activation on SO-67
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: Jan-Albert Koekemoer <jan.koekemoer@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Message-ID: <4AF51E91.13230.49025C6@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On 6 Nov 2009 at 22:59, Jan-Albert Koekemoer wrote:
Date sent: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:59:06 +0200
From: Jan-Albert Koekemoer <jan.koekemoer@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SA-AMSAT payload activation on SO-67
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Copies to: sumbandila@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Hello
>
>
> We intend to schedule the FM V/U cross-band repeater on Sumbandila as
follows
> (all times in UTC; all activations 13 minutes duration):
> 16:13 (Central Canada / USA)
HI Jan-Albert
Can you check the 16.13 UTC pass give's a foot print only over the Pacific
ocean here? The 14.36 is the one over central Canada/US.
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:32:12 +0300
From: ps8rf Piraja <ps8rf@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SA-AMSAT payload activation on SO-67
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <SNT121-W5175AE0503D1279C64AEAFE0AE0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
It was a success on the Sumbandilasat in South America. We are working with
10 and 20 watts and 20% of microphone gain. Thanks again to the team of
controllers of SumbaSat and our friend Andre, ZS2BK. Follow the link to a
part of the recording contact with Roland, PY4ZBZ.
http://www.spacesat.com.br/media/SO67 South america.mp3
Please hear the audio recording made directly from Roland, PY4ZBZ:contact
with PS8RF and PY5JCI. Very good recording.
http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/satelite/SO670711091145.wav
I hope you enjoy it.
73
Piraja, PS8RF
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:31:52 -0700
From: "K7WIN - Jeff" <k7win@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 not switching modes on 910H
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <012601ca5fbf$6eb04b00$4c10e100$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
SatPC32 is not automatically switching from NOR to REV when required. I have
verified that the Doppler.sqf file is configured correctly. I have to
manually switch the satellite mode.
I am using the ICOM CT-17 interface.
Thanks,
Jeff - K7WIN
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of OZ1MY
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:37 AM
To: saamsat@xxxxxxx.xx.xxx AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
Hi all,
SO-67 worked great over Europe this morning.
The downlink signal is the largest I have seen for years :-)
I used FMN with mike gain turned down. That is far the best way
to work the uplink.
Some stations with a too wide deviation even made the downlink
change amplitude - or cut it off. I used normal FM on the receive
side.
Worked G3VZV and IZ1ERR. Lots of other stations on.
Thanks for a new satellite for us to use.
73 OZ1MY
Ib
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:33:28 -0600
From: "Kevin Groth" <hislens@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 pass over North America
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000301ca5fc8$0a002500$1e006f00$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Ok, let's just say that pass was pretty crowded! Must have been a hundred
people trying to get in. Although I didn't make a successful QSO, I was
very excited to hear the bird FULL QUIET just as my LVB Tracker switched
from 0 degrees to 1 degree over the horizon! Of the many stations I did
hear, I heard 60db over S9 signals. I heard VA7VW, VE6EGN, VE6AB, W5ACM,
K7WIN, and WD9EWK, plus a host of XE stations and others towards the end of
the pass. I can't wait to get a QSO on this new satellite! Greatest hobby
ever!
Kevin
N9EME
EM12
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:35:42 -0500
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 Recording 7Nov09 1613z
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <280848.8327.qm@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
I have a recording of the 7 November 1613z pass
over the USA/Canada/Mexico. Here's the link:
http://www.papays.com/SO-67_07Nov2009_161151z.mp3
73,
John K8YSE
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:05:01 +0100
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 not switching modes on 910H
To: "K7WIN - Jeff" <k7win@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <135931DE866B4DC198CBCBC967A27602@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Hi Jeff;
the REV/NOR parameter in Doppler.SQF does not switch the radio's tracking
mode (Revers/Normal),
but the tracking direction of SatPC32. The setting is important only is
with SSB sats. If you tune the VFO knob, for example, 10 KHz up the program
will tune the TX frequency also 10 KHz up if the parameter is NOR and 10 KHz
down, if the parameter is REV. With FM sats the setting is meaningless
because these sats work on fix channels. The frequency changes by the
automatic Doppler correction change always in the opposite direction,
regardless of the setting in Doppler.SQF.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
----- Original Message -----
From: "K7WIN - Jeff" <k7win@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 not switching modes on 910H
> SatPC32 is not automatically switching from NOR to REV when required. I
> have
> verified that the Doppler.sqf file is configured correctly. I have to
> manually switch the satellite mode.
>
> I am using the ICOM CT-17 interface.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff - K7WIN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of OZ1MY
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:37 AM
> To: saamsat@xxxxxxx.xx.xxx AMSAT-BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
>
> Hi all,
> SO-67 worked great over Europe this morning.
> The downlink signal is the largest I have seen for years :-)
>
> I used FMN with mike gain turned down. That is far the best way
> to work the uplink.
> Some stations with a too wide deviation even made the downlink
> change amplitude - or cut it off. I used normal FM on the receive
> side.
>
> Worked G3VZV and IZ1ERR. Lots of other stations on.
>
> Thanks for a new satellite for us to use.
> 73 OZ1MY
> Ib
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:38:21 -0500
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>, "Kostas Ioannidis"
<kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <005e01ca5ff2$e0bbaa40$0200a8c0@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Yes it did help...2.5 KHz it is...
Roger
WA1KAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
To: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>; "Kostas Ioannidis"
<kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
> Hi Roger and the -bb,
> From memory it takes up less than 12.5 kHz which is the
> channel spacing on 2 meters (In Region 1 at least).
> Frequency deviation like 2.5 kHz (old 3.5 kHz and even some
> have 5 kHz deviation).
> It is the frequency deviation that is a the issue with SO-67 (I think).
> If you run too high deviation on the uplink the LF to the transmitter will
> make it deviate too much. Even for a normal (old) setting on the receive
> side.
>
> The Carson rule says: Signal Bandwidth = 2 times (Deviation + modulation
> frequency).
>
> Did that help ?
> 73 OZ1MY
> Ib
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
> To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>; "Kostas Ioannidis"
> <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
>
>
> > How "narrow" is FMN?
> >
> > Roger
> > WA1KAT
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
> > To: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB"
> > <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:40 AM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
> >
> >
> > > Hi Kostas,
> > > If you do not have FMN on your radio, turn the mike gain down and/or
> > > do not shout :-)
> > > 73 OZ1MY
> > > Ib
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis@xxxxx.xxx>
> > > To: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-67 over Europe thanks for test
> > >
> > >
> > > > Goodmorning,
> > > > As the previous operator said thank you a lot for this great
sounding
> > > > sat! It was booming all tha pass.
> > > > A lot of traffic on the air! But the narrow FM is an issue for those
> > > > who do not use it...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73 de SW1IXP
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
author.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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