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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Radio amateur calling protocol (Jim Jerzycke)
2. Re: Fw: Space Station (Greg D.)
3. Re: A0-51 "easy sat" (Ben Jackson)
4. Re: A0-51 "easy sat" (G8IFF/KC8NHF)
5. Re: Fw: Space Station (Rick Mann)
6. Re: need plans for 70 cm preamp (G0MRF(AT)aol.com)
7. Re: A0-51 "easy sat" (Ben Jackson)
8. Re: PcSat (Alan P. Biddle)
9. Re: ARISS operation for Field Day 2008 (Stefan Wagener)
10. Re: Radio amateur calling protocol (Robert Bruninga)
11. RS0ISS-4 and RS0ISS-11 (Bob Cutter)
12. Re: RS0ISS-4 and RS0ISS-11 (Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR])
13. Re: Radio amateur calling protocol (easy Sats) (Bill Dzurilla)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:08:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radio amateur calling protocol
To: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <566072.77887.qm(AT)web80602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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My .02 about why it was built.
The Powers That Be wanted something that could be
built relatively cheap, and take advantage of what
rides were available.
I'm not real happy with newcomers being introduced to
a flying repeater as "Satellite Operation" either, but
at least *something* got launched in a timely manner.
And like you, I'm pulling for another HEO linear bird!
73, Jim KQ6EA
--- Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> The answer to all of these ridiculous arguments on
> calling protocol
> is, of course, quit building FM voice 2 user
> satellites, like AO51.
>
> AO7, is what, 25 years old, none of those problems
> existed there, and
> still don't today.
>
> Blame those that encouraged and built AO51....
>
> A lot of us voiced our disapproval at the time it
> was proposed,
> mostly for that very reason....and lost...
>
> Why was it built??
>
>
>
> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
> dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
>
> Disagree: I learn....
>
> Pulling for P3E...
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:15:54 -0800
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Space Station
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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Excellent. Just curious, where in the sequence are we now? I've lost track.
Greg KO6TH
>
> This is a great animation showing all the segments of the Space Station,the
modules and the international partners that have helped create it.
> Pass along to your friends and family to show them that this is what we've
been flying the Shuttle for the past several years!
>
http://www.tietronix.com/anim/MoviePlayer.asp?myMovie=movies/assembly640x360.s
wf
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:20:47 -0500
From: Ben Jackson <bbj(AT)innismir.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A0-51 "easy sat"
To: <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <E1JTlgn-0008St-Ku(AT)telstar.blackratchet.org>
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Actually, on busy passes of AO-51, I find phonetics best because it is often
quite hard to hear weaker stations over the "free for all" that can occur Not
all stations are full quieting into the sat, nor does everyone always have a
great signal on the receiving end. :)
Just my $0.02
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Ben Jackson - N1WBV - bbj(AT)innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net
>From my Cell Phone
-----Original Message-----
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Sent: 2/25/08 4:36 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A0-51 "easy sat"
> How about trying to use the more preferred protocol of...
> Callsign phonetically. grid square, op mode
> Like...
> Kilo-Six-Lima-Charlie-Sierra, Delta Mike 13, handheld
On FM, in my opinion, there is no need for phonetics except for
calls with troublesome letters. Most calls can be heard easily
without using up time with phonetics.
Bob
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:15:38 +0000
From: G8IFF/KC8NHF <nigel(AT)ngunn.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A0-51 "easy sat"
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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I agree with Cliff. Tha same is true with terrestial repeaters.
If you expect a reply then the accepted term is "CQ" not "listening".
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:20:14 -0800
From: Rick Mann <rmann(AT)latencyzero.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Space Station
To: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <4CC271AD-D979-4FA5-A617-0AF65DEC1981(AT)latencyzero.com>
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On Feb 25, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Greg D. wrote:
> Excellent. Just curious, where in the sequence are we now? I've
> lost track.
I think STS-123, the upcoming mission, is assembly flight 1 J/A on to
that animation (the Japanese Logistics Module - Pressurized Section,
or JLP, and Dextre, a pretty-freakin'-cool two-armed robot).
--
Rick
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:27:28 EST
From: G0MRF(AT)aol.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: need plans for 70 cm preamp
To: rlasso(AT)zianet.com, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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In a message dated 26/02/2008 03:39:11 GMT Standard Time, rlasso(AT)zianet.com
writes:
Need recommendations for plans for an easily constructed homebrew 70cm
mast mount preamp with built in RF sense TR switch (VOX controlled). I
will not be running more than 50 watts in New Mexico or possibly 100
watts in CA when I move there.
thanks and 73, Robert W6RQR
That's really tough Robert. Unless there is some sequencing going on inside
your radio then any RF sensing circuit will mean that the relay contacts
will be hot switched on transmit.
A couple of seriesed limiting PIN diodes may help, but with 100W across them
for a few 10s of milliseconds even that may not be enough to protect the
Pre-amp.
On the preamp side, the design that was published in the journal in August
(2006?) works well and has a noise figure of 0.5dB and is a no tune design.
Details are on g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk
Thanks
David
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:13:48 -0500
From: Ben Jackson <bbj(AT)innismir.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A0-51 "easy sat"
To: G8IFF/KC8NHF <nigel(AT)ngunn.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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G8IFF/KC8NHF wrote:
| I agree with Cliff. Tha same is true with terrestial repeaters.
| If you expect a reply then the accepted term is "CQ" not "listening".
I have yet to hear a "CQ" on a repeater here in the US. The normal
practice here is to announce you're "listening", "monitoring", or just
give out your call sign.
I've also heard plenty of people reply to this. :)
- --
Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:13:40 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PcSat
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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John,
Any idea how long it normally takes for ON6MU to respond to requests for
registrations keys. In my case, it has been a couple of weeks, and e-mails,
but so far nothing.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:15:32 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <stefan_wagener(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISS operation for Field Day 2008
To: Robert L Lasso <rlasso(AT)zianet.com>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BAY130-W324E8CEBBB2785CE9D397FF6190(AT)phx.gbl>
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That is difficult to say.
It depends on crew activities and any docking or EVA events. At this point, no
Shuttle or Progress launches are scheduled for that time in June. However,
that assumes that STS-123 and STS-124 launch on time. During field day we
should have Expedition 17 active with
Gregory Chamitoff, KD5PKZ on the ISS.
As we get closer we will hopefully know more.
Hope this helps.
73, Stefan VE4NSA
> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:14:49 -0700
> From: rlasso(AT)zianet.com
> To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS operation for Field Day 2008
>
> what kind of operations can I expect for FD 2008 with ARISS for demo and
> QSO purposes? 73, Robert W6RQR
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:23:42 -0500
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radio amateur calling protocol
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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> ...quit building FM voice 2 user satellites...
> [on] AO7 none of those problems existed...
Yes, and hardly anyone uses it...
> Why was [AO51] built??
Because lots of people like to use it from their mobiles, and
their HT's and it is a great way to get into satellites with
innexpensive radios that everyone has.
> Disagree: I learn....
There are lots of aspects to the ham radio hobby. Many people
like different things. Those who like AO51 like it and it is a
great assset for them. Those who like AO7 use it. There is no
need to try to force all users to like only one aspect of
Amateur Satellites. But one thing is certain, we need to reach
out to more ham radio operators and get them to appreciate how
easy it is to communicate via satelites. And every single one
of them has an FM radio.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:43:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Bob Cutter <ki0g(AT)yahoo.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] RS0ISS-4 and RS0ISS-11
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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What are the differences between these two?
73, Bob KI0G
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:13:50 -0600
From: "Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]" <kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: RS0ISS-4 and RS0ISS-11
To: "Bob Cutter" <ki0g(AT)yahoo.com>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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RS0ISS-4 is the Packet Beacon ID and Digipeater (Sometime RS0ISS-3 depending
on the radio mode configuration). The simple way to use the Digi is use the
alias (ARISS) in your path name which works for both modes.
RS0ISS-11 is ID for the mailbox in the Kenwood D700. You need to have a very
good station to use it in high usage areas due to all the collisions from
ground stations.
Kenneth - N5VHO
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Subject: [amsat-bb] RS0ISS-4 and RS0ISS-11
What are the differences between these two?
73, Bob KI0G
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:20:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo(AT)yahoo.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radio amateur calling protocol (easy Sats)
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I share the frustration of everyone trying to work
AO-51 and AO-27 on a busy weekend pass, but as a
relative newbie I think the FM birds serve a purpose,
in light of the huge cost difference between an FM
only and an all-mode VHF/UHF rig.
If it had not been so easy and inexpensive to work via
AO-51, don't think I would have tried to work any sat.
For me and probably many others, the good experiences
on the FM sats led me to upgrade and work via AO-7 and
VO-52, and I hope more like these are launched soon.
Judging from the crowded state of the FM birds and the
relative lack of activity on the sats with linear
transponders, it seems that, for all their
deficiencies, the FM birds are still a popular choice.
Just need to keep teaching the need for brevity,
clarity of speech, and proper power and antennas.
73, Bill NZ5N
--- amsat-bb-request(AT)amsat.org wrote:
>>>The answer to all of these ridiculous arguments on
calling protocol
is, of course, quit building FM voice 2 user
satellites, like AO51.
AO7, is what, 25 years old, none of those problems
existed there, and
still don't today.
Blame those that encouraged and built AO51....
A lot of us voiced our disapproval at the time it was
proposed,
mostly for that very reason....and lost...
Why was it built??
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