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Today's Topics:
1. G.hn: Powerline Up To 200 MHz ? (Trevor .)
2. requesting help on a RF link solution (imaginary ka-band
link!) (Samudra Haque)
3. Re: Which rotor control to use? (Joel Black)
4. Re: Hopefully - Some ITAR Clarifications. (rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxxx
5. Ares (rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxxx
6. Re: Ares (David - KG4ZLB)
7. Re: SatPC32, Yaesu FT-736, and KCT (Erich Eichmann)
8. Re: Ares (Rocky Jones)
9. Re: AO-51 in V/US repeater until November 1 (Luc Leblanc)
10. Re: S band reports (Andrew Glasbrenner)
11. Re: Ares will try again (Rocky Jones)
12. Re: Portable satellite terminals for disaster relief
(JoAnne Maenpaa)
13. Re: Ares (Bob McGwier)
14. Nova Satellite Prediction Program (Jimcknwire@xxx.xxxx
15. OT: WARNING! My trouble maker gene is firing (Bob McGwier)
16. Re: Ares (Bill Ress)
17. Re: Ares (Andrew Rich)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:10:37 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] G.hn: Powerline Up To 200 MHz ?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <375901.2141.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I note the bandplan for home powerline network adaptor extends right out to
200 MHz. I know ARRL managed to get some notches put in for the HF ham bands
to reduce the horrendous amount of interference "homeplug" type devices cause.
Does anyone know if ARRL is also attempting to get notches for the Amateur
Satellite Service allocation at 144-146, and also the US Amateur Service
allocations at 50-54 and 146-148 ?
G.hn: the new ITU-T Home Networking Standard
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/october2009/g_hn_new_itu-t_home_networking_st
andard.htm
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:03:30 -0400
From: Samudra Haque <samudra.haque@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] requesting help on a RF link solution (imaginary
ka-band link!)
To: Amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi, amsat-bb
CQ any satellite link budget expert !
I'm trying to do a calculation on my own based upon published specs
for the NASA MRO Ka-band experiment, but am getting some unexpected
results for a Ka-band simplex link with Temp=3000K (hypothetical),
operating with a Signal to Noise ratio (unitless) figure of 1.171
(representing 4.5 dB eb/no with a data rate of 1 Gbps and a bandwidth
of 2.4x10^9 Hz)
Question : is 1 gbps not 1x10^9 bps ?
Question : if both antennas are 3m parabolic (both are the same type)
with 56.4 dBi boresight gain, what would you think the furthest
distance the link can perform with SNR of 1.171. I have actually used
a padding of 3 dB Eb/No in my link budget, so am not worried about any
further signal loss at first (ok, I should be ..) For the exercise, I
am choosing a 10 Watt estimated output on an arbitrary basis.
So:
P_t = 10W
G_t = 56.4 dBi = G_r , can we assume the same gain for TX and RX on a
parabolic dish ?
T = 3000K at receiver
SNR = 1.171 required
f=32.2 GHz
B = 2.4E9 Hz, (bpsk, ldpc code 0.5)
DR = 1E9 bps
So, I am puzzled why this link budget says the range with these
parameters is equal to 4.644 x 10^9 Km -- that seems to be a long
distance ! What am I not able to conceptualize.
BTW, I know if I send this out, the answer will come to me soon
thereafter, but for education, I would like to know where the problem
in my understanding lies !
Samudra N3RDX
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:04:17 -0500
From: Joel Black <jbblack68@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Which rotor control to use?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4AE6D3B1.40901@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
You need to be aware that the add-on board I have has a non-standard
parallel address (it was something weird like $008) and there is no way
that I can find to change it - either in Windows or on the card itself.
Unless I missed something, I could not get it to work with SatPC32. HRD
might be different. This apparently does not apply to built-in parallel
ports.
73,
Joel, W4JBB.
Eric Knaps, ON4HF wrote:
> Hello George,
>
> Thanks for the reply.
> Maybe I can go for FOD-track. I even have the pcb that was given to me
> years ago and it's more fun if I build it myself.
> But can I just connect it and let it communicate with HamRadio Deluxe or
> do I need to run another program?
>
> 73,
> ON4HF.
>
> Eric Knaps
> Waterstraat 30
> B-3980 Tessenderlo
> Belgium
>
> Tel. +32472985876 (mobile)
>
> http://www.on4hf.be
>
>
>
> George Henry schreef:
>
>> If you have a parallel port, the FOD-Track system uses that, instead of a
>> COM port....
>>
>>
>> George, KA3HSW
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eric Knaps, ON4HF" <eric.knaps@xxxxxxx.xx>
>> To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:01 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Which rotor control to use?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello guys,
>>>
>>> I was wondering what kind of hardware to use to control my satellite
>>> rotors.
>>> I have the G-500A elevation rotor and the G-650C azimuth rotor.
>>> My only com port is connected with my FT-847 for doppler correction via
>>> HamRadioDeluxe so it must be something via the USB port.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Eric - ON4HF
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eric Knaps
>>> Waterstraat 30
>>> B-3980 Tessenderlo
>>> Belgium
>>>
>>> Tel. +32472985876 (mobile)
>>>
>>> http://www.on4hf.be
>>>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:40:35 +0000
From: rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Hopefully - Some ITAR Clarifications.
To: "Bill Ress" <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx
"Samudra Haque" <samudra.haque@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I don't think there is much to understand. We have been told it is
impossible to follow the logically inconsistent rules. You must subject
yourself or your group to the tyranny of the unelected bureaucrat.
Preventing me from talking to amateur radio buddies about amateur radio
satellites with no commercial military implications for the satellite feels
a lot like an abridgment of the bill of rights like free speech.
Phil Karn sued and WON his suit on the abridgment of free speech rights on
something much less clear cut, the free release of DES source code.
I have to say I am personally unable to do what phil did. Strictly
financial reasons. Amsat is also in this financial legal strait jacket.
It sucks would be my overall technical assessment.
Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:47:16
To: Samudra Haque<samudra.haque@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Hopefully - Some ITAR Clarifications.
Hi Samudra,
Hey - don't worry about ruffling feathers. The more we discuss it, the
better understood ITAR will be.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
Samudra Haque wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> But ALL US citizens and foreign permanent residents must be very careful
>> about the more sinister part of ITAR called DEEMED EXPORTS. That's where
you
>> discuss certain ITAR controlled satellite hardware or technology issues
with
>> a foreign national, with which you do not not have a State Department
>> technical exchange agreement, whether this foreign national is in this
>> country or you contact them by phone, internet or other forms of
>> communication. So while you can work on an AMSAT-NA satellite project that
>> has aspects controlled by ITAR, because you are a legal permanent resident,
>> you can't email your parents, if they are foreign nationals, to discuss
>> those ITAR restricted subjects, whether they are in the US or a foreign
>> country. If you do, it is "deemed to be exported" without ITAR approval and
>> serious penalties can result.
>>
>
> Yes, I usually take care to divide my correspondence amongst the
> particular groups I am working with, and this is also the basis in
> which I recently proposed moving to (a) moderated forum (such as
> phpBB) or (b) sub-dividing the amsat-bb list into amsat-engineering
> (ITAR restricted) and amsat-user (open to all) lists. If moderation is
> not possible, practical or simply open to all is the order of the day,
> at least we can move the ITAR stuff (development centric stuff) to a
> closed list format and ensure what is said and done is always in
> compliance (i.e., track of who say what and documents are marked
> restricted for circulation) etc.
>
> The AMSAT-BB is the real funny way of becoming ITAR compliant (while
> we are under ITAR, lets not forget we have responsibilities) so, until
> the day that ITAR is not applicable to us, AMSAT-BB should be
> restricted to open questions, user questions etc. no blanket mail
> concerning tech details from the US side. However, for the specific
> engineering stuff I suggest that whoever administers the list should
> consider a security protocol and a secure file area for this
> compliance issue, hopefully not on the same machine as amsat-bb to
> avoid any chance of overlap.
>
> Sorry if I ruffle a few feathers here, this an important issue for me too !
>
> Samudra, N3RDX
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:50:33 +0000
From: rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ares
To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<730830126-1256651260-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-836455956-@xxxx
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Launch at 9:49 am edt
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:00:54 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ares
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4AE6FD16.8070104@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Not yet it hasn't!
Weather problems.
rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Launch at 9:49 am edt
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:50:34 +0100
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32, Yaesu FT-736, and KCT
To: "Jim Bennett" <jlb3nn@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <2E9F75228E3D4E0787E8B3EED5111927@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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reply-type=original
Hello Jim,
as Alan, VE4YZ, wrote already you can run the FT-736R with SatPC32 directly
at a serial port of the PC. You need a CAT interface for level conversion
RS-232 > TTL. In the sub folder KCT in the SatPC32 program folder you will
find a schematic of an interface that can easily be built by yourself.
You can run the FT-736R also at one of the 2 serial ports of the KCT Tuner
(ports A and B). The KCT can be configured for TTL level (see the KCT
manual p. 15). So, you save a COM port and don't need an external CAT
interface for level conversion. You will find detailed instructions
regarding rotor AND CAT steering with the KCT in the file Readme(KCT).txt.
The text can be displayed from the SatPC32 menu "?", "Hints[Rotor] ....KCT".
(I just tested CAT steering of my the FT-736R with the KCT-Tuner again and
it
works. Let me know if you want to know my settings.)
Regarding performance it makes no difference whether you steer the FT-736R
via the PC's serial port or the KCT Tuner. The CAT system of the FT-736R
does not allow to read the VFO frequencies. So, with CW/SSB sats it can only
be tuned around the passband with the mouse or keyboard but not with the
VFO knob ("transparent tuning"). With other radios CAT steering directly
via a COM port has the advantage that it allows "transparent" tuning. That
doesn't work if you steer the radio via a KCT Tuner port, because the
SatPC32 software for the KCT only sends commands but does not read from the
port.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Bennett" <jlb3nn@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:08 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32, Yaesu FT-736, and KCT
> Has anyone got this configuration working? My current setup is:
>
>
>
> Yaesu FT-736, WISP, Kansas City Tracker/Tuner with Yaesu 5400 rotor
> control
> box.
>
>
>
> I have try to use Satpc32 with the KCT and it will interface with the
> rotor
> control, but will not tune the radio.
>
>
>
> Do I need a separate cable for the data link? Or will Satpc32 interface
> with KTC and tune thru the KTC board?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any info.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
> KE4KOL
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:21:38 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ares
To: <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W37C696F71489351C89F879D6B90@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
It is kind of funny. more will be spent on this launch (for 2 minutes of
flight give or take) then Elon Musk has spent so far on his entire effort to
develop Falcon 9 and he is going to try and go to orbit late November (give
or take).
Robert WB5MZO
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:00:54 -0400
> From: kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ares
>
> Not yet it hasn't!
>
> Weather problems.
>
>
>
> rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
> > Launch at 9:49 am edt
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> >
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:22:23 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 in V/US repeater until November 1
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4AE6C9DF.27960.829784@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
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On 25 Oct 2009 at 19:34, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:34:44 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 in V/US repeater until November 1
To: Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> FM Repeater, V/US
> Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
> Downlink: 435.300 and 2401.200 MHz FM
>
> Reports on the S band transmitter would be appreciated.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
Signal was as usual "strong on S band" on the 0800edt but audio was a bit
louder than the UHF downlink.
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:31:12 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: S band reports
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4AE71240.2080707@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I appreciate the reports about S band. As you might have surmised, in
this mode we are running without live telemetry. This configuration
comes pretty close to using the maximum available power. If the voltage
drops below a certain set point, the S band transmitter will trip off,
and the satellite internals will heat up significantly with the reduced
load. We want to avoid this if at all possible. Having daily reports
from around the globe that the S transmitter is still on is a valuable
asset to the command team. I just thought a little explanation was in
order. Thanks to all that have sent reports to me or the -bb.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:31:05 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ares will try again
To: <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W2225E97236B0ABF5B39004D6B90@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
WX did them in...
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:34:28 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Portable satellite terminals for disaster
relief
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001301ca571a$f954f060$ebfed120$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dan observed:
> Amsat can pretty well forget about attracting funding for a
> geosynchronous amateur satellite supporting emergency commun-
> ications when the capability already exists.
An Amateur Radio Club (of which AMSAT is a unique subset) usually isn't the
first-to-market with technical equipment. On the other hand, a lot of
amateur radio's innovations have become day-to-day technology haven't they?
Nethope at this point has only developed half of what AMSAT proposed - they
did a ground terminal to communicate via an existing commercial service.
Does that make AMSAT's "hopes" to also fly a payload "someday" plus a
revived Namaste ground terminal a redundant proposition?
Enough companies make commercial satellite ground terminals that it has
become commodity equipment covering a broad spectrum of capability and cost.
Of all the automotive suppliers people still choose what fills their needs
or wallet. Hams choose what fills our needs or wallet from all the amateur
radio gear manufacturers. I guess you're observing that AMSAT's GEO proposal
has to fit into the GEO satellite commodity market.
I've maintained that a GEO satellite is best suited to link widely deployed
sectors of the Incident Command System. A satellite isn't generally useful
in the often portrayed emergency communications scenario of the
ham-in-a-yellow-vest pointing a 2M HT at a pile of tornado damage.
> future satellites that are larger than a Cubesat and in a higher orbit
Yeah, at this point we're realizing that having a GEO satellite offer AMSAT
30x30x30cm of room is equivalent to winning the lottery. Perhaps for the
next few years AMSAT's contributions to increased cubesat capability is a
previously unforeseen intermediate opportunity to get us higher and louder.
That seemed to me to be one of the key decisions coming out of the BoD
meeting and Symposium discussions.
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:03:28 -0400
From: Bob McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ares
To: kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4AE719D0.5000306@xxxxx.xxx>
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One has to say that it ought to be a question: How does a slow moving
cargo ship drift into the range safety box without being anticipated and
cause a weather window to be missed and eventually a scrub? These are
expensive exercises and tough questions need to be asked. I bet if you
go near that box tomorrow (or whenever), you are like to be met with a
flotilla and an air force and will be lucky to escape some form of sanction.
PLUS, I WANTED A LAUNCH!
;-)
Bob
N4HY
David - KG4ZLB wrote:
> Not yet it hasn't!
>
> Weather problems.
>
>
>
> rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
>
>> Launch at 9:49 am edt
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:15:36 EDT
From: Jimcknwire@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nova Satellite Prediction Program
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <cfd.64ee15d5.381876a8@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Installed, reinstalled, changed versions- multiple problems with
calculating scripts. What program should I change to?
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:28:24 -0400
From: Bob McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] OT: WARNING! My trouble maker gene is firing
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'dttsp-linux' <dttsp-linux@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "FlexRadio
Development \(flexdev@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx<xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
GNURadio Discussion List <discuss-gnuradio@xxx.xxx>, High Performance
Software Defined Radio Discussion List <hpsdr@xxxxx.xxx>
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I am wondering if anyone in receipt of this note is friends with or
knows the name of a good high level contact at the ACLU. I have a
first amendment case I would like to discuss with them.
Please contact me OFF LIST.
Bob McGwier
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:29:54 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ares
To: Bob McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx
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Patience Bob - patience!! Good things come to those who wait (or some
dumb saying like that).
Bill - N6GHz
Bob McGwier wrote:
> One has to say that it ought to be a question: How does a slow moving
> cargo ship drift into the range safety box without being anticipated and
> cause a weather window to be missed and eventually a scrub? These are
> expensive exercises and tough questions need to be asked. I bet if you
> go near that box tomorrow (or whenever), you are like to be met with a
> flotilla and an air force and will be lucky to escape some form of sanction.
>
> PLUS, I WANTED A LAUNCH!
>
> ;-)
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
>
> David - KG4ZLB wrote:
>> Not yet it hasn't!
>>
>> Weather problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
>>
>>> Launch at 9:49 am edt
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:39:52 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ares
To: "Bob McGwier" <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>, <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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What is ARES and what is on it ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob McGwier" <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:03 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ares
> One has to say that it ought to be a question: How does a slow moving
> cargo ship drift into the range safety box without being anticipated and
> cause a weather window to be missed and eventually a scrub? These are
> expensive exercises and tough questions need to be asked. I bet if you
> go near that box tomorrow (or whenever), you are like to be met with a
> flotilla and an air force and will be lucky to escape some form of
> sanction.
>
> PLUS, I WANTED A LAUNCH!
>
> ;-)
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
>
> David - KG4ZLB wrote:
>> Not yet it hasn't!
>>
>> Weather problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
>>
>>> Launch at 9:49 am edt
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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