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Today's Topics:
1. Re: A small step back into things (Michael Tondee)
2. LVB tracker (Drew Squires)
3. Re: Sumbandilasat SO-67 pass over USA and Canada
(Dale Hershberger)
4. FW: Sumba Test Schedule (ps8rf Piraja)
5. Re: FW: Sumba Test Schedule (OZ1MY)
6. Operated from DM05 (w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
7. FW: FW: Sumba Test Schedule (ps8rf Piraja)
8. Re: ITAR is interesting to me (John P. Toscano)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:23:07 -0400
From: Michael Tondee <mat_62@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A small step back into things
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Many thanks Tim and also to the others who sent me encouragement and
suggestions off list.
Several people suggested the WA5VJB "cheap yagi" design and I'm aware
of them, in fact I already have two separate ones, an 11 element 70cm
and a 4 element 2 meter one.they are left over from my original TS-2000X
station along with my SaebreTrack Basic Stamp based tracking boix and
OR-360 TV rotators for Az/El.
I will get all that back up in the air as I'm not much for portable ops
( It was cold tonight!!) but I'll probably build a dual band version of
the yagi's on the off chance I go trekking off somewhere and want to
bring my gear along.
Michael, W4HIJ
Tim - N3TL wrote:
> Congratulations Michael! I look forward to working you on the FM
> satellites again soon.
>
> 73,
>
> Tim - N3TL
> *From:* Michael Tondee <mat_62@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>*To:* Amsat BB
> <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>*Sent:* Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:44:23
> PM*Subject:* [amsat-bb] A small step back into things
>
> Those of you who have seen my post to this forum in the past know that
> I've unfortunately had to sell some of my gear on and off to make ends
> meet. I went from a TS-2000X to an IC-820 to no satellite stuff at all.
> Just recently I had to part with my HF rig as well.
> I was determined though that I wasn't going to give up and an FM LEO
> capable station seemed feasible and better than not having anything at
> all so I have started pursuing it.
> I just got my Yaesu VX-3R HT from the UPS man Friday, it is primarily to
> be my receive radio as I already have another 2 meter radio.
> I have felt like a kid who couldn't play with his new toy though
> because my adapter to be able to hook up an external antenna to the SMA
> connector on the HT was back ordered. We have a few repeaters here but
> I'm out in the sticks and the rubber ducks on these little rigs are
> notoriously dreadful.
> Anyway finally decided to step outside the house tonight about the 1800
> UTC pass of AO-51 and see if I could hear anything but noise.
> Amazingly enough, even with just the stock rubber duck, I could hear
> stations. Everything was down in the noise and not really discernible
> enough to copy but I could tell people were there.
> I don't think I really needed much more antenna and I probably would
> have had decent copy.
> It was only a small step and there is much work to do but it did make me
> feel as if I had actually moved forward on getting back on the birds.
> Just wanted to share,
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
> _______________________________________________
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:13:13 +1100
From: "Drew Squires" <asquires@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB tracker
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Has any Amsat member experience using the LVB tacker with Yaesu G1000DXC and
KR-500 rotators?
Is it easy?possible?Or impossible ?
With thanks Andy VK3AS
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:34:00 -0800
From: Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Sumbandilasat SO-67 pass over USA and Canada
To: John Mock KD6PAG <kd6pag@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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John Mock KD6PAG wrote:
> I tried at 10:55 PDT (presumably 1755Z) from CM88. But i had lots of trees,
> haven't used that antenna in a long time and various forms of 'operator
error'
> are likely (since i'm out of practice). I didn't hear anything that sounded
> modulated. Did anyone else hear anything?
>
> -- KD6PAG (Networking Old-Timer, Satellite QRPer)
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I heard nothing either......Dale - Kl7XJ
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:22:50 +0300
From: ps8rf Piraja <ps8rf@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Sumba Test Schedule
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello Piero,
The times reported on the website of SA AMSAT ( http://www.amsatsa.org.za )
and with the time told by Mike, DK3WN (thanks Mike) do not correspond with
the schedules resulting from my simulations. For the Sumba not go active on
Europe the satellite had to be activated and deactivated in the region of
Africa the same would happen to North America, but I do not know if someone
has the privilege of controller in North America to enable and disable the
transponder. I do not know if I was wrong or the controlers team of Sumba
have mistake with respect to time and the regions reported.
73,
Piraja, PS8RF.
> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:11:02 +0200
> From: pbaudino@xxxxxxxxx.xx
> To: ps8rf@xxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Sumba Test Schedule
>
> ps8rf Piraja ha scritto:
> > The SA Amsat warns on its website that tomorrow 24th October, will test
the tranponder of SumbandilaSat. Some regions of the planet will have the
privilege. So, good luck.
> >
> >
> > Test Schedule
> >
> > 24 October all times in UTC:
> >
> > 07:35 ? 07:46 (over Eastern part of Southern Africa)
> >
> > 09:06 ? 09:21 (over central part of Southern Africa)
> >
> > 19:52 ? 20:03 (over Western part of Canada / North America)
> >
> > 20:42 ? 20:55 (over Eastern part of Southern Africa)
> >
> > 22:15 ? 22:27 (over central part of Southern Africa)
> >
> Hi Piraj?,
>
> when another test over central Europe ?
>
> '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:58:11 +0100
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: Sumba Test Schedule
To: "ps8rf Piraja" <ps8rf@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Piraja,
Most probably they just upload a job to Sumbandila to be executed at
the specified time.
That is done by the control stations in SA.
Just speculation on my part.
Have a nice Sunday.
73 OZ1MY
Ib
----- Original Message -----
From: "ps8rf Piraja" <ps8rf@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 3:22 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Sumba Test Schedule
Hello Piero,
The times reported on the website of SA AMSAT ( http://www.amsatsa.org.za )
and with the time told by Mike, DK3WN (thanks Mike) do not correspond with
the schedules resulting from my simulations. For the Sumba not go active on
Europe the satellite had to be activated and deactivated in the region of
Africa the same would happen to North America, but I do not know if someone
has the privilege of controller in North America to enable and disable the
transponder. I do not know if I was wrong or the controlers team of Sumba
have mistake with respect to time and the regions reported.
73,
Piraja, PS8RF.
> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:11:02 +0200
> From: pbaudino@xxxxxxxxx.xx
> To: ps8rf@xxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Sumba Test Schedule
>
> ps8rf Piraja ha scritto:
> > The SA Amsat warns on its website that tomorrow 24th October, will test
the tranponder of SumbandilaSat. Some regions of the planet will have the
privilege. So, good luck.
> >
> >
> > Test Schedule
> >
> > 24 October all times in UTC:
> >
> > 07:35 ? 07:46 (over Eastern part of Southern Africa)
> >
> > 09:06 ? 09:21 (over central part of Southern Africa)
> >
> > 19:52 ? 20:03 (over Western part of Canada / North America)
> >
> > 20:42 ? 20:55 (over Eastern part of Southern Africa)
> >
> > 22:15 ? 22:27 (over central part of Southern Africa)
> >
> Hi Piraj?,
>
> when another test over central Europe ?
>
> '73 de Piero IZ1ERR
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:07:11 +0000 (UTC)
From: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Operated from DM05
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On the AO-27 pass @ 2200z or so, I happen to be in DM05 by happen chance
meeting with David K6CDW, and so I threw out the portable and did one pass
from near the Bakersfield Airport. If anyone I worked need DM05, shoot me a
card or eQSL and I'll shoot one back...
John W6ZKH
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:21:08 +0300
From: ps8rf Piraja <ps8rf@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: FW: Sumba Test Schedule
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello Ib,
The Controllers team of Sumba announced another test today. Involving South
Africa in the first phase. And the second part of testing the satellite will
be activated on the Antarctic Circle and disabled in South Africa.
Interestingly, or there are several controllers or the controllers have the
ability to program the Sumba to activate at certain times.
Test Schedule
25 October all times in UTC): For
tonight, the schedule is as follows:
18:22 - 18:34 (UTC, 25 Oct)
19:45 - 20:08 (UTC, 25 Oct)
Please record the beacon if you
can
( http://www.amsatsa.org.za )
73
Piraja, PS8RF.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:05:14 -0500
From: "John P. Toscano" <tosca005@xx.xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ITAR is interesting to me
To: Bob McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
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Bob McGwier wrote:
> ANY aspect dealing with a satellite, software, hardware, ground stations
> (hardware, software, protocols, etc.), ideas, random ejaculations from a
> diseased mind or whatever that deals with spacecraft or ground stations
> are DEEMED EXPORTS when they depart a U.S. citizen and are delivered to
> a non-U.S. citizen. It is a nearly impossible task to abide by and one
> that really makes me want to throw my hands up in despair and walk away.
>
> There are exceptions for classrooms and courses taught in U.S.
> university's. A person, even a non-U.S. citizen, who can pay for taking
> a course, may go and involve themselves in course work, even if it is
> dealing with the design, construction, and control of spacecraft during
> the course work. Some of this applies to your earlier questions but for
> US service academies, there are very few non-U.S. citizens in them.
Bob:
I would not dream of second-guessing you for a moment, since you are
fully engaged in this stuff and I am simply an interested observer.
However, why doesn't the following quotation directly from the ITAR
regulations provide the exemption we need? The quotation comes from the
section that defines what are the items that are covered by ITAR:
ITAR Part 121 - The United States Munitions List
-----------------------< begin quote >-------------------------------
Category XV - Spacecraft Systems and Associated Equipment
*(a) Spacecraft, including communications satellites, remote sensing
satellites, scientific satellites, research satellites, navigation
satellites, experimental and multi-mission satellites.
*NOTE TO PARAGRAPH (a): Commercial communications satellites, scientific
satellites, research satellites, and experimental satellites are
designated as SME only when the equipment is intended for use by the
armed forces of any foreign country.
-----------------------< end quote >---------------------------------
Note that SME refers to "Significant Military Equipment"
Paragraph (a) seems to cover everything and anything having to do with
satellites, but the asterisk and "NOTE" attached to it seems to say that
an Amateur radio satellite for use by Amateurs instead of foreign armed
forces should be exempted, doesn't it?
Granted, I realize that we have already lost one argument with ITAR
about our past cooperation with AMSAT-DL, but is there some compelling
reason why the lawyers didn't point out this exception?
Just wondering...
If I had to guess the answer myself, after looking at the horribly
convoluted language of the small piece of the ITAR regulations that I
have looked at, there is probably another paragraph elsewhere that
effectively says, "we were just kidding when we said that it had to be
used by foreign armed forces, we really mean it to cover everything"
John
W0JT
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