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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: THE DMSP launch (Joe)
   2. Re: THE DMSP launch (Donald Jacob)
   3.  Filters and Preamps Question (Elan Portnoy)
   4. Re: THE DMSP launch (jeffk13057@xxxxx.xxxx
   5. Re: ITAR is interesting to me (Trevor .)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:50:41 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: THE DMSP launch
To: bruninga@xxxx.xxx
Cc: 'Amsat BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4ADCA6F1.6090501@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Maybe AMSAT should make a PIO?

Robert Bruninga wrote:

>Rocky,
>
>I think you miss the point...
>
>
>
>>>4. Ballast does not have an e-mail group
>>>full of whining little people who think
>>>they could have designed it better or...
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>this is the one I always find amusing.
>>Almost comical and certainly childish.
>>
>>
>
>Yes, I think he was referring to you and your incessant
>fruitless posts...
>
>
>
>>Are the people who are suppose to be the
>>experts in building state of the art satellites
>>so thin skinned that a bulletin board
>>slows their progress?  LOL
>>
>>
>
>Yes, they probably are... On the one hand, small mind kibitzers
>lambast all the "dooers" in the AMSAT organization for not
>maintaining a presence here and responding to every little bite
>and jab and complaint, while you then want to lambast them for
>trying to respond to your childish and uninformed incessant
>opinions...
>
>
>
>>"Just say no"  either stop building satellites
>>and move on to something that wont be at all
>>critical...or just tune out and stop reading.
>>
>>
>
>In fact some of them have.  And I don't blame them one bit.  The
>damage done by so many trolls and kibitzers such as yourself is
>real and hurts the organization.
>
>
>
>>It is the childhood equivalent of "he called me a name"
>>
>>
>
>Yes, he did, and it seems he was talking directly to you.
>As am I.
>
>
>
>>LOL
>>things are hard
>>Robert WB5MZO
>>
>>
>
>And you are the one that really makes them that way.
>
>Bob
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:01:12 -0700
From: Donald Jacob <wb5eku@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: THE DMSP launch
To: bruninga@xxxx.xxx
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<1a659d360910191101p5f85de80t5a55855a4fe99c44@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Bob,Right on the money! All I have seen from on the BBS from this guy is
"after the fact"
 and "I can tell you how to do it" and no where does he even attempt to
help. He is
the greatest Monday Morning quarterback.
He is a troll and unfortunately we do fall for his tactics.
If, in fact, he is a -- test pilot-- thank God I live in California and not
Texas
or any where near his flight path! Which makes me want to know what aircraft
he tests so that I can stay clear of them.
I hope not to fall for the "loud mouth troll that knows everything and wants
to tell
all that he does".  He knows that if he ever tries to do what he tells
others to do
he will fail. And come to think of it, most of us know that he is talk and
no action too.

Don  WB5EKU



On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Rocky,
>
> I think you miss the point...
>
> >> 4. Ballast does not have an e-mail group
> >> full of whining little people who think
> >> they could have designed it better or...
>
> > this is the one I always find amusing.
> > Almost comical and certainly childish.
>
> Yes, I think he was referring to you and your incessant
> fruitless posts...
>
> > Are the people who are suppose to be the
> > experts in building state of the art satellites
> > so thin skinned that a bulletin board
> > slows their progress?  LOL
>
> Yes, they probably are... On the one hand, small mind kibitzers
> lambast all the "dooers" in the AMSAT organization for not
> maintaining a presence here and responding to every little bite
> and jab and complaint, while you then want to lambast them for
> trying to respond to your childish and uninformed incessant
> opinions...
>
> > "Just say no"  either stop building satellites
> > and move on to something that wont be at all
> > critical...or just tune out and stop reading.
>
> In fact some of them have.  And I don't blame them one bit.  The
> damage done by so many trolls and kibitzers such as yourself is
> real and hurts the organization.
>
> > It is the childhood equivalent of "he called me a name"
>
> Yes, he did, and it seems he was talking directly to you.
> As am I.
>
> > LOL
> > things are hard
> > Robert WB5MZO
>
> And you are the one that really makes them that way.
>
> Bob
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:22:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Elan Portnoy <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Filters and Preamps Question
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <378573.75242.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On both 70cm and 2 meter antennas, I have DCI filters tuned to sat passbands
as well as ARR preamps. My question is: what's the preferred order?
Presently, I have the filters closer to the antennas, with the assumption
I'd be better off supressing spurs first, thus preventing them from hitting
preamps and desensing.

Any thoughts?


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:22:18 +0000
From: jeffk13057@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: THE DMSP launch
To: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<1721602937-1255976537-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-489959646-@xxx
xxx.xxxx.xxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx>

Content-Type: text/plain

I'm surprised this guy has enough time to send emails...finding a cure for
cancer, peace in the Middle East and healthcare reform certainly must take
up a lot of time!

73
Jeff WB2SYK
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Jacob <wb5eku@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:01:12
To: <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: THE DMSP launch

Bob,Right on the money! All I have seen from on the BBS from this guy is
"after the fact"
 and "I can tell you how to do it" and no where does he even attempt to
help. He is
the greatest Monday Morning quarterback.
He is a troll and unfortunately we do fall for his tactics.
If, in fact, he is a -- test pilot-- thank God I live in California and not
Texas
or any where near his flight path! Which makes me want to know what aircraft
he tests so that I can stay clear of them.
I hope not to fall for the "loud mouth troll that knows everything and wants
to tell
all that he does".  He knows that if he ever tries to do what he tells
others to do
he will fail. And come to think of it, most of us know that he is talk and
no action too.

Don  WB5EKU



On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Rocky,
>
> I think you miss the point...
>
> >> 4. Ballast does not have an e-mail group
> >> full of whining little people who think
> >> they could have designed it better or...
>
> > this is the one I always find amusing.
> > Almost comical and certainly childish.
>
> Yes, I think he was referring to you and your incessant
> fruitless posts...
>
> > Are the people who are suppose to be the
> > experts in building state of the art satellites
> > so thin skinned that a bulletin board
> > slows their progress?  LOL
>
> Yes, they probably are... On the one hand, small mind kibitzers
> lambast all the "dooers" in the AMSAT organization for not
> maintaining a presence here and responding to every little bite
> and jab and complaint, while you then want to lambast them for
> trying to respond to your childish and uninformed incessant
> opinions...
>
> > "Just say no"  either stop building satellites
> > and move on to something that wont be at all
> > critical...or just tune out and stop reading.
>
> In fact some of them have.  And I don't blame them one bit.  The
> damage done by so many trolls and kibitzers such as yourself is
> real and hurts the organization.
>
> > It is the childhood equivalent of "he called me a name"
>
> Yes, he did, and it seems he was talking directly to you.
> As am I.
>
> > LOL
> > things are hard
> > Robert WB5MZO
>
> And you are the one that really makes them that way.
>
> Bob
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:35:11 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ITAR is interesting to me
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <586044.90297.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Thanks for the clarification.

It might appear that those who join the AMSAT-NA board risk personal ruin
should they inadvertantly misinterpret Federal Government regulations.

http://www.ka9q.net/export/history.html
http://www.ka9q.net/export/3des.html

73 Trevor M5AKA








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