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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ITAR is interesting to me (k0vty@xxxx.xxxx
2. JOTA Contacts on AO-51 00:55 GMT (Clint Bradford)
3. Re: satpc32 problems (Erich Eichmann)
4. W7LRD to 2M1EUB/P via AO7 10/18 (Bob- W7LRD)
5. Re: W7LRD to 2M1EUB/P via AO7 10/18 (Gordon JC Pearce)
6. Re: ITAR is interesting to me (Joel Black)
7. Re: satpc32 problems (Joel Black)
8. New Satellite Concept for Earth-Mars Comms (Jeff Davis)
9. homemade arrow rotator motors (Joseph Armbruster)
10. I: homemade arrow rotator motors (Francesco Grappi)
11. Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...) (Rocky Jones)
12. Re: homemade arrow rotator motors (Marc Vermeersch)
13. According to Rocky Jones (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
14. Re: According to Rocky Jones (Rocky Jones)
15. Re: W7LRD to 2M1EUB/P via AO7 10/18 (Mika Siira)
16. 2M1EUB/P VIA AO7 HAND HELD ANTS (paul robinson)
17. Re: 2M1EUB/P VIA AO7 HAND HELD ANTS (Andrew Glasbrenner)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:59:10 CDT
From: k0vty@xxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ITAR is interesting to me
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20091017.235911.1768.10.k0vty@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Greetings All:
The Amsat BB is a great source of information we all know:
I have a few questions about ITAR that I thought might interest more than
I.
I tried to be careful of the words I used.
1.) Do all launched satellites that have US components or interests fall
under ITAR?
2.) When does ITAR interest begin for a launchable Amateur satellite?
3.) Is software and firmware that is a part of a Amateur satellite at
launch fall under ITAR?
4.) Who normally handles University Cube Sat ITAR issues when Amateur
frequencies are used?
5.) Who normally handles US Military school Cube-Sat ITAR issues when
Amateur frequencies are use ?
6.) When is there no ITAR interest in a Amateur satellite?
7.) Did Suitsat one or two (ARISSaT-1) have any ITAR problems since they
are satellites
using Amateur frequency?
I have more ITAR related questions.
Best Regards
Joe K0VTY
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:52:27 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] JOTA Contacts on AO-51 00:55 GMT
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Thank you, Mexico!
Thank you, Northern California and AMSAT Patrick!
Thank you, Texas!
(That IS three countries, isn't it ???)
I was invited MONTHS ago to show off AMSAT at the Victor Valley Amateur
Radio Club's JOTA at the San Bernardino County Fairgrounds. It's an hour
drive each way for me ... there ARE "closer" JOTA events occurring ... But
Victorville was the first to ask ...
We had a GREAT time. Arrived at 1PM for lunch, set up out informal table for
the scouts to visit, and then had the wonderful pass of AO-51 at 5:55PM
local time. I did NOT record the pass to initiate QSL cards - but will
certainly respond to ANY of the 8+ contacts we made on both the special JOTA
repeater and the "normal" V/U repeater. (That's INCLUDING Patrick, who I
think had one foot in New Mexico and the other in Arizona ...)
Wonderful kids ... supportive parents ... Elmers from as far away as San
Diego (150 miles' drive each way). Even got my wife to go with me this time,
right after her month-long trip to Tibet. Ya know when you can impress your
spouse, you've accomplished SOMEthing! We couldn't spend the night, as both
our horse and burro(*) called us to remind us of their regular evening
feeding.
Seeing scores of kids that age as interested in amateur radio and
electronics and mathematics as these kids were - just makes me believe that
the next generation of policy makers were in the audience ....
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com
(*) - Yes - If you have read my "bio" that's all over the 'Net, I do,
indeed, own a burro. "His name" - you might ask? "edward R. Burro."
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Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.clintbradford.com
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:21:09 +0200
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 problems
To: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <DEB00E7DD1A24438B82AF94C27D0261C@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Bob,
my answer to your mail from Oct. 16 has twice been returned by comcast.net.
The same happened with previous of my mails to you.
In the returned message they say:
"A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
SMTP error from remote mailer after initial connection:
host mx2.comcast.net [76.96.30.116]: 554
IMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net comcast 194.25.134.18 Comcast block
for spam. Please see http://help.comcast.net/content/faq/BL000000 ".
Under the link they say:
"Our filters have determined that email from your mail server has been sent
in patterns which are characteristic of spam.".
Do you still have another e-mail address?
To be sure that you get this mail I send it also via AMSAT-BB.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob- W7LRD
To: dk1tb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:43 PM
Subject: Fwd: satpc32 problems
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: dk1tb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:03:06 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: satpc32 problems
Hello Eric
I hate to be a complainer but I am having ongoing issues with the program.
When tracking a satellite and driving the LVB tracker. More often than not
the LVB will stop tracking, while satpc continues. The only way I can get
everything back running (short of manual control) is to shut off the LVB,
turn it back on, restart satpc32 and then select the desired satellite.
Lately with AO51 being in mode L/U close accurate tracking is necessary due
to high gain antenna for 1.2ghz. I have been told there is no "hand
shaking" between the computer and LVB, so the LVB just receives the data. I
have reinstalled satpc32 and no change. I also get a note on the computer
"program not responding", then asked if I want to send a message to MS.
Could it be a windows issue?? Any advice is appreciated.
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle, Wa.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:14:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] W7LRD to 2M1EUB/P via AO7 10/18
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<824711726.4800011255850057282.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxxxx
x.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
That subject may be a bit optimistic.? Bob and Paul ?will be trying to
stretch the footprint.? At the applicable passes between Scotland and
Seattle.? So when Seattle comes into the footpint a little bit of room would
be appreciated.? Remember, "if this were easy, everyone would be doing it!".
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle, Wa.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:56:06 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W7LRD to 2M1EUB/P via AO7 10/18
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1255856166.4300.1.camel@xxxxx.xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 07:14 +0000, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>
> That subject may be a bit optimistic. Bob and Paul will be trying to
> stretch the footprint. At the applicable passes between Scotland and
> Seattle. So when Seattle comes into the footpint a little bit of room
> would be appreciated. Remember, "if this were easy, everyone would be
> doing it!".
>
>From the west coast of the US, to the east coast of the UK? That *is*
quite a stretch. I'm not even sure the satellite is over the horizon in
both locations at any point.
Gordon MM0YEQ
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:15:40 -0500
From: Joel Black <jbblack68@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ITAR is interesting to me
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4ADB06EC.207@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Someone mentioned waaay back in this discussion something about ITAR and
international students being taught in the US. Read this article:
http://slashdot.org/story/09/10/17/1948223/The-USs-Reverse-Brain-Drain
Is there anyone left in our government with common sense any more?
Wait... gah!!! I'm blinded by a flash of the obvious - NO, there is no
one left in government with common sense. While I'll not get into the
politics of ITAR (we're way beyond politics), perhaps we should get the
ARRL involved in lobbying our effort.
Before, you say, "That's a wonderful idea, why don't you take that one
and try it." I am. I don't know the exact procedure for doing so, but
I think a letter to my ARRL Division Manager might be a good start.
73,
Joel, W4JBB
k0vty@xxxx.xxx wrote:
> Greetings All:
>
> The Amsat BB is a great source of information we all know:
> I have a few questions about ITAR that I thought might interest more than
> I.
> I tried to be careful of the words I used.
>
> 1.) Do all launched satellites that have US components or interests fall
> under ITAR?
> 2.) When does ITAR interest begin for a launchable Amateur satellite?
> 3.) Is software and firmware that is a part of a Amateur satellite at
> launch fall under ITAR?
> 4.) Who normally handles University Cube Sat ITAR issues when Amateur
> frequencies are used?
> 5.) Who normally handles US Military school Cube-Sat ITAR issues when
> Amateur frequencies are use ?
> 6.) When is there no ITAR interest in a Amateur satellite?
> 7.) Did Suitsat one or two (ARISSaT-1) have any ITAR problems since they
> are satellites
> using Amateur frequency?
>
> I have more ITAR related questions.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Joe K0VTY
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:18:52 -0500
From: Joel Black <jbblack68@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 problems
To: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4ADB07AC.2030206@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
No matter the solution, would you mind posting to the -BB also, Erich?
I'm in the process of trying to finish an LVB and, if I run into the
same problem this might be a good place to start.
73,
Joel, W4JBB
Erich Eichmann wrote:
> Bob,
> my answer to your mail from Oct. 16 has twice been returned by
comcast.net. The same happened with previous of my mails to you.
>
> In the returned message they say:
> "A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
> SMTP error from remote mailer after initial connection:
> host mx2.comcast.net [76.96.30.116]: 554
IMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net comcast 194.25.134.18 Comcast block
for spam. Please see http://help.comcast.net/content/faq/BL000000 ".
>
> Under the link they say:
> "Our filters have determined that email from your mail server has been
sent in patterns which are characteristic of spam.".
>
> Do you still have another e-mail address?
> To be sure that you get this mail I send it also via AMSAT-BB.
>
> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob- W7LRD
> To: dk1tb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:43 PM
> Subject: Fwd: satpc32 problems
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: dk1tb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:03:06 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: satpc32 problems
>
>
> Hello Eric
>
> I hate to be a complainer but I am having ongoing issues with the
program. When tracking a satellite and driving the LVB tracker. More often
than not the LVB will stop tracking, while satpc continues. The only way I
can get everything back running (short of manual control) is to shut off the
LVB, turn it back on, restart satpc32 and then select the desired satellite.
Lately with AO51 being in mode L/U close accurate tracking is necessary due
to high gain antenna for 1.2ghz. I have been told there is no "hand
shaking" between the computer and LVB, so the LVB just receives the data. I
have reinstalled satpc32 and no change. I also get a note on the computer
"program not responding", then asked if I want to send a message to MS.
Could it be a windows issue?? Any advice is appreciated.
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> Seattle, Wa.
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:07:00 -0400
From: Jeff Davis <stuckbit@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Satellite Concept for Earth-Mars Comms
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<c095eea20910180607g163bb31awbb95792d79c9e437@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
"Direct communication between Earth and Mars can be strongly disturbed
and even blocked by the Sun for weeks at a time, cutting off any
future human mission to the Red Planet. An ESA engineer working with
engineers in the UK may have found a solution using a new type of
orbit combined with continuous-thrust ion propulsion."
Read the story at PhysOrg.com:
http://www.physorg.com/news174907594.html
--
Jeff, KE9V
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:52:37 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] homemade arrow rotator motors
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <F5B83289-9C04-403D-BBC7-0CCD496EE09F@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes
All,
I am working on designing a rotator that the arrow antenna can snap
into. I am aiming for this platform to be portable, so that it could
be packed up and taken to different events. The base of the system
will be a small circular rotating platform, that will provide a full
360 degree of freedom. The 'arm' that will hold the antenna itself,
will provide elevation and roll control. I have seen a couple of
random videos online of people that have made rotators but I haven't
seen any that have the entire antenna mounted... or a system that
provides for a flexible amount of movement. I am interested in
talking to anyone that has hacked at something like this, in order to
discuss lessons learned. In addition, i'd like to find out which
motors you chose and why. The arrow antenna with the di-plexer weighs
roughly 2lbs. Right now, I am looking at two different companies that
provide stepper motors, namely:
http://www.kelinginc.net
http://www.linengineering.com
Joe
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:03:11 +0200
From: "Francesco Grappi" <f.grappi@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] I: homemade arrow rotator motors
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <D9D1803F389D45DAABB380E63562132C@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Joe
You can see some picture may be interesting here
http://195.43.189.179/yappa/index.php?album=%2FSatelliti%2F&page=1
73"
Frank IW4DVZ
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Per conto
di
Joseph Armbruster
Inviato: domenica 18 ottobre 2009 15.53
A: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Oggetto: [amsat-bb] homemade arrow rotator motors
All,
I am working on designing a rotator that the arrow antenna can snap
into. I am aiming for this platform to be portable, so that it could
be packed up and taken to different events. The base of the system
will be a small circular rotating platform, that will provide a full
360 degree of freedom. The 'arm' that will hold the antenna itself,
will provide elevation and roll control. I have seen a couple of
random videos online of people that have made rotators but I haven't
seen any that have the entire antenna mounted... or a system that
provides for a flexible amount of movement. I am interested in
talking to anyone that has hacked at something like this, in order to
discuss lessons learned. In addition, i'd like to find out which
motors you chose and why. The arrow antenna with the di-plexer weighs
roughly 2lbs. Right now, I am looking at two different companies that
provide stepper motors, namely:
http://www.kelinginc.net
http://www.linengineering.com
Joe
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:32:01 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)
To: <k6hx@xxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W75003C288FBB8C80462C0DD6C20@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> There are all sorts of reasons why flying digital transponders is a
> good idea. Your cell phone (presuming you have one)
>
> 73 Mark K6HX
>
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Mark...yeap we have cellphones here in Clear Lake Texas...you know we can
send email, pictures, do GPS tracking wow isnt it amazing. And over in Iraq
cellphones (grin) would allow the Predators to send pictures where the bad
people are so they can be "negated"...isnt ones and zeros great. Next time
you fly on a commercial airliner you should ask the drivers to let you look
up front...lots of digital stuff there. Dazzle the crew and ask them to
point out the Flight management systems for you!
That still doesnt answer the question of why on Suitsat 2 they should fly a
digital transponder.
In my view better engineering doctrine would imply that we try and put the
digital transponder ON ISS and let it "cook" there for a bit.
Think about that for a minute.
OK why would that be a good idea? Because the setup should be easier, if
something goes wrong with the setup then the "back room" (SPAN) at JSC
should be able to send up "words" which can fix the issue...then any
problems with the Transponder as it is used could be resolved...and if the
entire thing goes tango uniform then it could be brought back to earth (down
mass is easy) and looked at.
As it is, with the knowledge that suitsat 1 died on deployment...we would
never know if the transponder was just not working or wasnt put together well.
It is completely possible that AMSAT NA is so screwed in its technical
ability that it might not be possible to get NASA to let that happen...but
that would be a far better use of the transponder then tossing it out into
space and seeing what happens.
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:38:40 +0200
From: "Marc Vermeersch" <amvm@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: homemade arrow rotator motors
To: "'Joseph Armbruster'" <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000a01ca5009$112fe640$338fb2c0$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Joe,
I'm using geared motors (http://www.seefrid.de/images/dcgm43t42.pdf) that
can easily be controlled by a PIC running PWM. Let me know and I can send
you the schematic that I'm using to run those motors.
BR,
--
/\/\arc
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Joseph Armbruster
> Sent: zondag 18 oktober 2009 15:53
> To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] homemade arrow rotator motors
>
> All,
>
> I am working on designing a rotator that the arrow antenna can snap
> into. I am aiming for this platform to be portable, so that it could
> be packed up and taken to different events. The base of the system
> will be a small circular rotating platform, that will provide a full
> 360 degree of freedom. The 'arm' that will hold the antenna itself,
> will provide elevation and roll control. I have seen a couple of
> random videos online of people that have made rotators but I haven't
> seen any that have the entire antenna mounted... or a system that
> provides for a flexible amount of movement. I am interested in
> talking to anyone that has hacked at something like this, in order to
> discuss lessons learned. In addition, i'd like to find out which
> motors you chose and why. The arrow antenna with the di-plexer weighs
> roughly 2lbs. Right now, I am looking at two different companies that
> provide stepper motors, namely:
>
> http://www.kelinginc.net
> http://www.linengineering.com
>
> Joe
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:44:57 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] According to Rocky Jones
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4ADB37F9.2050506@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
I guesswe need to get you on the design/construction team to show the
"experts" how to do it.
Rocky Jones wrote:
> It is completely possible that AMSAT NA is so screwed in its technical
ability that it might not be possible to get NASA to let that happen...but
that would be a far better use of the transponder then tossing it out into
space and seeing what happens.
>
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:49:59 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: According to Rocky Jones
To: <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W61F73B7454FE71652057E4D6C20@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:44:57 +0000
> From: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
> To: orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx
> CC: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: According to Rocky Jones
>
> I guesswe need to get you on the design/construction team to show the
"experts" how to do it.
>
the experts were very successful with Suitsat 1. Eagle worked out good as
well didnt it?
Suitsat 2...dellivered on time ...oh well not so much. ARISSsat or whatever
it is...fourth time is a charm
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:05:39 +0200 (CEST)
From: Mika Siira <oh8mbn@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W7LRD to 2M1EUB/P via AO7 10/18
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<11829350.1255881939078.JavaMail.apache@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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>L?hett?j?: gordon@xxxx.xxx
>P?iv?m??r?: 18.10.2009 11:56
>Vastaanottaja: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>Aihe: [amsat-bb] Re: W7LRD to 2M1EUB/P via AO7 10/18
>
>On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 07:14 +0000, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>>
>> That subject may be a bit optimistic. Bob and Paul will be trying
to
>> stretch the footprint. At the applicable passes between Scotland
and
>> Seattle. So when Seattle comes into the footpint a little bit of
room
>> would be appreciated. Remember, "if this were easy, everyone would
be
>> doing it!".
>>
>
>>From the west coast of the US, to the east coast of the UK? That
*is*
>quite a stretch. I'm not even sure the satellite is over the horizon
in
>both locations at any point.
>
>Gordon MM0YEQ
>
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Hello Bob and Gordon,
AO-7 is above the horizon in both locations on next pass (AOS here
around 17:10 UTC). Bob, good luck in QSO attempt, I will be also
monitoring from KP25 square!
Mika, OH8MBN
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:21:27 +0000 (GMT)
From: paul robinson <pushbiker2004@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2M1EUB/P VIA AO7 HAND HELD ANTS
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A BIG THANKS ! to every one who took place in the fun on ao7 mode b...i was
working hand held ants at 2700' on a mountain top io87ie at the LECHT ski
centre ....i had to give up in the end very high winds ,rain and cold ....4
below this morning! i was so cold after 4 and half hours!!! big thank you to
bob w7lrd for geting up early ...sorry we didnt make it...but one of these
days we will ...thanks bob!! and thanks to every one elce who worked
me...what a great old bird it is ....good transponder and good foot print
!!!!!! AMSAT ARE YOU LISTENING??? FOOT PRINT BEING IMPORTANT!! 73 all ill
still be active from io87mc for 7days...de paul
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:56:58 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 2M1EUB/P VIA AO7 HAND HELD ANTS
To: paul robinson <pushbiker2004@xxxxx.xx.xx>
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> AMSAT ARE YOU LISTENING??? FOOT PRINT BEING IMPORTANT!!
Of course we are. Satellites aren't launched on desire only.
Earlier this year I was in contact with the only launch provider I could
find who had launches to over 800km. They had no secondary opportunities
available.
A launch to 600 to 800 km for an AO-51 sized satellite would cost 400k
to 800k dollars from all the providers we've spoken to. That's almost as
unobtainable on our own as the 10 million for Intelsat or 7 million for P3E.
I think our best chance to get back to a higher orbit is going to be
hitching a ride on someone else's satellite, and we are actively
pursuing this in several directions. If you work for someone who could,
or know of an opportunity to carry a 1 or 2 kilo package to orbit, and
provide us with ~5 watts of power, please email me privately with
details. We have the hardware, as a direct result of the
SuitSat-2/Arissat-1 effort. All we need is the ride.
73, Drew KO4MA
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