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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Can we get them to fix AO-40 first then? (Peter Guelzow)
   2.  WD9EWK from DM52 tonight! (Tim - N3TL)
   3. Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...) (John B. Stephensen)
   4.  AO-51 @ 23:20 UTC (Tim - N3TL)
   5. Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...) (Rocky Jones)
   6.  ANS-291 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (JoAnne Maenpaa)
   7. Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...) (Andrew Rich)
   8. Re: DM07 (w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
   9.  DN00-01 Grid-pedition Complete (Mark Spencer)
  10. Re: DN00-01 Grid-pedition Complete (Rick - WA4NVM)
  11. Re: DN00-01 Grid-pedition Complete (Jeff Yanko)
  12. Re: AO-51 @ 23:20 UTC (k0vty@xxxx.xxxx
  13. Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...) (Mark VandeWettering)
  14.  IC910/KJ6KO amp project (Bob- W7LRD)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:30:27 +0200
From: Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Can we get them to fix AO-40 first then?
To: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4ADA1B53.6010902@xxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Gordon,

such a fuse would not prevent a battery from an internal short-cut in
one or more cells...  that's in fact what happened to AO-40.
Also you have to make such a "failsafe" feature really fail safe, so
that it does not hit you in the back if it fails..
These kind of things, like Watchdogs, always sound simple and easy, but
very often they are cause for more trouble.
We have seen satellites with Watchdogs going mad and resetting computers
while it was not necessary and do more harm than good.
Clearly, nobody expected that the battery would die so quickly,
otherwise some actions would have been done before...

73s Peter
DB2OS



Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 03:24 -0400, Luc Leblanc wrote:
>
>
>> 40 back, we will. If the voltage is clamped low and there is no other
damage, we may end up waiting a long time for a cell to "open",
>> hopefully not as long as for AO-07. ..or it may happen today. No success
for even weeks or months does not mean that we won't eventually be
>> successful.
>>
>
> On a more practical note, could there be some sort of failsafe "battery
> went phut so disconnect it" device?  I'm guessing a perfectly ordinary
> inline fuse would be too simple, but perhaps some sort of mechanical
> latch that would just pop the battery terminal if it lost power would
> work.
>
> Gordon MM0YEQ
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:03:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  WD9EWK from DM52 tonight!
To: BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <915217.56224.qm@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hey everyone,

Patrick asked me to post the following, for any of you who need DM52 and/or
New Mexico on the satellites.

He will work the following passes:

AO-27 at 2235 UTC from DM52 on the New Mexico-Arizona border.

AO-51 at 2318 UTC from DM52 entirely inside New Mexico.

AO51 at 0054 UTC from DM52 on the New Mexico-Arizona border.

He'll be in Hidalgo County, New Mexico for all three passes, and on it's
border with Cochise County, Arizona, for the two state-line passes.

73 to all,

Tim - N3TL

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:16:03 -0000
From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)
To: "Rocky Jones" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <db@xx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, k6hx@xxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <A22BF10B4F4344E89F15FDD7F9838FF2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Digital signal processing is 40 year old technology at DARPA and first
appeared on the amateur radio scene 20 years ago. We certainly don't want
AMSAT to ignore this technology as it can reduce hardware complexity, size
and power requirements and therefore decrease costs and increase
reliability.

73,

John
KD6OZH

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Jones" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <db@xx.xxx>
Cc: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <k6hx@xxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 15:47 UTC
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)
>
> But a software derived transponder is not simple and if the thing
> fails...most likely no one will know why.  Was it some astronaut missed
> one of those switches or is the entire program screwed?  What to do with
> cubesat then?
>
> AMSAT's role should be as far as possible to keep the membership supplied
> with functioning satellites.  It is not the ham equivelent of DARPA or
> whatever.  If the role is not to keep hamsats in orbit, then what does it
> do



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:37:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 @ 23:20 UTC
To: BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <237013.88238.qm@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hey everyone,

For those of you who didn't hear the pass, the ability to reach AO-51
vaporized about 2/3 through this last orbit up North America from the south,
thanks to a carrier or some kind of interference stronger than I have ever
heard. Whatever captured the satellite's uplink wiped out every signal
trying to reach the satellite, based on what I heard from EM84.

I would direct this message to the control team and not post it to the BB if
I believed for one second that what resulted in complete jamming of the
satellite was not intentional and malicious.

I believe that it was.

Tim - N3TL

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:28:47 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)
To: <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <db@xx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, k6hx@xxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <COL106-W630B7428A9496748F0983BD6C20@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"




> From: kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxxx db@xx.xxx
> CC: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx k6hx@xxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:16:03 +0000
>
> Digital signal processing is 40 year old technology at DARPA and first
> appeared on the amateur radio scene 20 years ago. We certainly don't want
> AMSAT to ignore this technology as it can reduce hardware complexity, size
> and power requirements and therefore decrease costs and increase
> reliability.
>
> 73,
>
> John
> KD6OZH


John.  I would not suggest to ignore it.  But AMSAT is not DARPA and cannot
in my view afford to fly technology just for technologies sake

Robert WB5MZO

 		 	   		
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:40:25 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ANS-291 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000101ca4f93$f7729970$e657cc50$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-291

ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North
America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the
activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an
active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating
through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor@xxxxx.xxx

**********************************************************************
*  AMSAT thanks Frank Bauer, KA3HDO and Janet Bauer and the entire   *
*    2009 Symposium Team for a spectacular and inspiring event!      *
**********************************************************************

In this edition:

* AMSAT Says "We're Going Back to Space"
* AMSAT, IBM, SUNY-Binghamton Announce NextGen CubeSat Development
* Discussions Continue For New AMSAT Lab Site
* Canadian Hams to Share 430-450 MHz With Military System
* AO-51 Operations Schedule Posted
* Satellite Shorts From All Over

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-291.01
AMSAT Says "We're Going Back to Space"

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 291.01
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 18, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-291.01

The Board of Directors has adopted the Engineering Task Force
recommendation that low-cost launch options be immediately pursued.
The AMSAT engineering team will develop a 1U CubeSat design effective
immediately. Tony Monteiro, AA2TX, Vice-President of Engineering said,
"We are recommending an approach that gets AMSAT back up in space with
new satellites by leveraging the skills and technology we have today."

The new AMSAT CubeSat's initial capability is planned to add to the
popular low-earth orbit FM transponder fleet allowing hams to continue
to use their existing handheld and portable antenna systems. This also
allows an accessible entry path for new satellite operators to get
started. The existing FM satellites are starting to show their age.

The flight version of ARISSat-1 has been developed to fit into the
CubeSat model. AMSAT's flexible Software Defined Transponder (SDX),
simplified IHU, power control subsystem, external interfaces to ex-
perimental payloads and cameras will now allow a modular approach to
mission design using proven subsystems and components. The ARISSat-1
mission planned in 2010 will be the initial flight test of AMSAT's
modular satellite.

Here are some of the highlights ...

+ AMSAT will develop comparable AO-51 level of performance packaged
  into a 1U CubeSat. This includes a U-V transponder, V telemetry,
  U command receiver, IHU, power control. This can be done with our
  modular design.

+ This will be a U/V FM Transponder, not done before in a 1U CubeSat,
  which can be worked with a HT and a simple antenna. CubeSat power
  limitations are planned to be addressed through research and devel-
  opment of deployable solar-cells.

+ AMSAT will make our open-design satellite modules and technology
  available for other satellite teams to build into their missions.

+ This new approach will provide a reliable radio link for future
  CubeSats allowing university teams to concentrate on their scientific
  objectives.

+ The modular nature of the AMSAT CubeSat system will allow add-on
  missions utilizing several different types of modulation and band-
  width. These can be pursued with future low-cost CubeSat launch
  opportunities.

AMSAT President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW Annual Meeting Powerpoint
Presentation has been posted at http://www.amsat.org

[ANS thanks the AMSAT Board of Directors for the above information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-291.02
AMSAT, IBM, SUNY-Binghamton Announce NextGen CubeSat Development

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 291.02
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 18, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-291.02

AMSAT will work with a university student engineering team to
develop the NextGen Cubesat.

NextGen Program Manager, Alex Harvilchuck, N3NP introduced this new
program at the AMSAT Symposium. Alex revealed program goals and its
initial plans with a paper in the Proceedings and presentations to
the AMSAT Board of Directors and to the attendees during Symposium
sessions.

NextGen consists of AMSAT volunteer mentors working with IBM Global
Services Systems Engineering Division, and SUNY-Binghamton (also
called University of Binghamton) senior level engineering students
participating in their 'capstone' engineering project.

Alex summarized the NexGen program goals:

+ Intial analysis of ARISSat-1, documenting the systems, and analysis
  of the lessons learned from ARISSat-1 and other prior spacecraft to
  create a building block architecture for future satellites.

+ Open, modular, evolutionary, and documented design based on this
  analysis.

+ Redesigning the ARISSat-1 Power Systems into a next generation power
  system using supercapacitors instead of batteries and reducing the
  footprint of some of the boards.

+ Analysis and modification to the structure to incorporate deployable
  solar panels with a scalable design that will work for 1U, 2U and 3U
  sizes.

+ Design a Picosat-class bus structure that AMSAT, or any other Univer-
  sity, can use for 1U, 2U, or 3U CubeSat spacecraft. AMSAT could make
  the open design available at low-to-no-cost to qualified University
  groups.

+ An Engineering Model of the NextGen CubeSat spacecraft bus will be
  on display at the Dayton Hamvention AMSAT Booth for everyone to
  study.

Alex summarized, "Starting with our initial core team of 34 students,
plus advisers, mentors and volunteers at Binghamton University this
will be an ongoing effort. It is not a one time event, but the start
of a stable, evolutionary design process that will further STEM (Sci-
ence, Technology, Engineering & Mathematics) with the Next Generation
of engineers and amateur radio operators. We are looking for other
individuals and University/School teams to participate in all aspects
of the spacecraft design - RF Systems - Guidance, Navigation, Control
& Experiment Systems - Power & Structure Systems."

Volunteer mentors are needed! Even if you only have an hour a week,
you can mentor a student over the phone or you can peer review a
document that the students are working on. If you have more than an
hour a week, you can implement a small design change to an existing
subsystem; you could respin the board layout to meet a reduced form
factor; you could redesign a module to use different technology.
Contact Alex via e-mail at amsat@xxxxxx.xxx .

AMSAT's Board of Directors has approved the support of the University
of Binghamton NextGen Cubesat Proposal and agreed to provide $1,200.00
in immediate funding to the Binghamton Foundation to support student
expenses and initially budgeted $10,000.00 to cover material costs
associated with hardware development between September 2009 and May
2010. The Board will review progress at the end of the first semester.

[ANS thanks Alex, N3NP and AMSAT Board of Directors for the above
 information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-291.03
Discussions Continue For New AMSAT Lab Site

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 291.03
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 18, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-291.03

AMSAT President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW discussed an opportunity under
serious discussions with the University of Florida, Gainesville to
locate AMSAT's satellite laboratory on campus.

Among discussions over the past 12 months, AMSAT has had conversa-
tions with several universities concerning a potential relationship.
This opportunity arose out of an amateur radio talk given at The
Villages ARC by Dave, AA4KN and Drew, KO4MA in April. This lead to
contact with UF's Dr. Norman Fitz-Coy. A Memorandum of Understanding
has been drafted and is currently under review by legal teams. At
this time there is no timeframe for bringing about a formal conclusion
as the MOU discussions continue and internal UF approval still needed.

Relocating the AMSAT Lab from the 'Eastern Shore' to 'The Swamp'
offers significant potential:

+ Location on a major university campus in a state-of-the-art building

+ Integrated into a facility focused on small satellite development
  with clean room installation at the host's expense (not AMSAT)

+ Potential for student projects focused on AMSAT needs

+ Broadening of AMSAT's presence in the wider university community

+ Potential research/development opportunities for AMSAT and AMSAT
  members

+ Establishing a  program that offers significant traction for
  education outreach

[ANS thanks AMSAT President, Barry Baines, WD4ASW for the above
 information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-291.04
Canadian Hams to Share 430-450 MHz With Military System

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 291.04
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 18, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-291.04

Amateur Radio Newsline #1678 reported that Industry Canada has
informed Radio Amateurs of Canada that it has authorized the
Department of National Defense to use a digital system called
Enhanced Position Location Reporting System or EPLRS in the
430 to 450 MHz shared 70 centimeter band. The EPLRS system
consists of mobile, fixed, transportable and airborne stations
that use 5 MHz-wide spread spectrum channels to provide strategic
telemetry information for military platforms.

This authorization is on a no-protection, non-interference basis,
which means that no new restrictions will be imposed on Canadian
amateur operations in this band as a result. Industry Canada says
that there is a slight chance of minor interference to amateur radio
systems. Typically in the form of a minor audible clicking noise. If
Canadian amateurs encounter such interference, they are requested to
report it by e-mail to Radio Amateurs of Canada at regulatory at
rac dot ca. The information reported should include the geographical
location, date, time, frequency and mode being used by the amateur
station, and a description of theinterference.

[ANS thanks Amateur Radio Newsline Report 1678 and RAC for the
 above information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-291.05
AO-51 Operations Schedule Posted

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 291.05
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 18, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-291.05

The AO-51 command team has posted the operating schedule for the
remainder of October. For the latest Command Team and Operations
Group news about AO-51 refer to:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/CTNews.php

October 17 - October 18

FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM

JOTA Only FM Repeater, V/U
Please give way to JOTA stations or QSOs with JOTA stations
Uplink: 145.880 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM

October 19 - October 25

FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM

9k6 BBS, L/U
Uplink: 1268.700 MHz 9k6 FM
Downlink: 435.150 MHz 9k6 FM

October 26 - November 1

FM Repeater, V/US
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
Downlink: 435.300 and 2401.200 MHz FM

[ANS thanks AO-51 Command Team Member Mark, N8MH for the above
 information]



SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-291.06
Satellite Shorts From All Over

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 291.06
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 18, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-291.06

+ The American Radio Relay League (ARRL) has a feature story on the
  ARISS antennas that will be launched to the ISS on STS-129 in mid-
  November and installed on the Columbus module during the mission's
  second spacewalk.  See:
  http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2009/10/05/11110/?nc=1

+ Mineo Wakita, JE9PEL reports that at present FO-29 is only turned
  on once a week over Japan for testing of its power system.

+ Bob, N4HY has uploaded his camera phone pictures from the 2009
  Symposium at http://twitpic.com/photos/rwmcgwier

+ Although EME is a bit off topic, every ham wishes for antennas
  like these. Here is a video from the Echoes of Apollo event:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHGXp4Afr4g&feature=related

+ Amateur satellite operators in range of the west coast will have
  an opportunity to work W6FOG as he sails from San Francisco to
  Puerto Vallarta departing on 10/19/09.  Neil will be working many
  of the ocean grids on the way.

+ Jim, ND9M/VQ9JC is presently deployed on a Navy ship heading for
  Sumatra on a humanitarian mission with fresh water for the victims
  of the recent earthquakes there. Jim has been active with his FT897
  (TX) and the FT817 (RX) using an Arrow antenna and a UPS battery
  for power. He operates from the Helicopter Pad on the ship. JIm
  says, "There isn't much activity in the Indian Ocean but he is
  working VU's and E21's and handing out rare water grids!"

+ Hams like science so here are a couple of links to follow.

  National Geographic has a zoomable map of space exploration
  http://books.nationalgeographic.com/map/map-day/index  After
  you close the opening text screen you will see the image zoom
  control in the top right of the page.

  This page contains an embedded video, "Do the Oceans of Jupiter's
  Europa Harbor Life?"

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/10/europas-ice-sheet-enables-an-ox
ygenrich-ocean.html

[ANS thanks everyone for the above information]


In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors
to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive additional benefits.
Application forms are available from the AMSAT Office. And with that
please keep in mind if you want to travel fast, travel alone. If you
want to travel far, travel together. If you want to travel in comfort,
fake an ankle sprain and convince the other travelers to carry you.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM
K9JKM at amsat dot org



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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:48:48 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)
To: "Rocky Jones" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
<db@xx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, k6hx@xxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <C13D225C501140F39CB11237E103579B@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
reply-type=original


But 19k2 RF 100 mW modules are $60



----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Jones" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>; <db@xx.xxx>
Cc: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <k6hx@xxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)





> From: kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxxx db@xx.xxx
> CC: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx k6hx@xxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)
> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:16:03 +0000
>
> Digital signal processing is 40 year old technology at DARPA and first
> appeared on the amateur radio scene 20 years ago. We certainly don't want
> AMSAT to ignore this technology as it can reduce hardware complexity, size
> and power requirements and therefore decrease costs and increase
> reliability.
>
> 73,
>
> John
> KD6OZH


John.  I would not suggest to ignore it.  But AMSAT is not DARPA and cannot
in my view afford to fly technology just for technologies sake

Robert WB5MZO


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:51:52 +0000 (UTC)
From: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: DM07
To: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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John, I dont know what happen, but I didnt hear a thing on the AO-27 pass
that was East of me. Checked the pass data on SatPc32 and made sure I was on
the right freq's, but didnt hear a thing, so was a complete bust for that
Grid. I even had an audience, and sure felt like an idiot after building up
the excitement, and then zilch. Oh well.... I guess it happens. Even the
SO-50 pass that I talked to Patrick was very noisy, and that is probably due
to all the intermod in the area I was in, not only from the commercial
stations, but from hams walking around keying up their mikes, talking to no
one, just kerchunking the 440 repeaters.

Very thick and heavy fog this morning going to Fresno, with visibility down
to 100 feet in some spots, and then most of the day overcast, hot and humid,
which is rare here. There is an unusual High over us, causing this very
early fog season. Felt like I was back in Alabama and Mississippi on my road
trip...

Unknown when I'll get back up that way......not for a month or more I am
sure, but I'll hope for an AO-51 pass instead. Sorry it didnt work out..

John W6ZKH


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Papay" <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:40:11 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: DM07

John,

Did you cancel your trip to DM07 today. Didn't
hear you on the AO-27 pass that WA8SME was on.
Patrick reported hearing you in the morning from
DM06 but didn't hear you on any other pass. Hope
everything is ok there.

The AO-27 pass was a zoo but Doug and I both made
a contact with WA8SME.

Let me know if you plan to operate from DM07 in the
future. Thanks.

73,
John K8YSE


John Papay
john@xxxxxx.xxx



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:51:55 -0700
From: "Mark Spencer" <mspencer@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  DN00-01 Grid-pedition Complete
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<20091018015208.6343D3337E03@xxxxxxxxxxx.x.xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Geeeeze, now I know why DN00 and 01 are rare grids!   There literally isn't
anything out there, certainly no local RFI or traffic.   It took 7 hours of
driving round trip for 7 minutes of satellite time.hum 60 to 1, guess that
ain't bad.  Anyway, thanks to all who stuck it out through some QRM and
congestion to make contact.  Simply confirm the contact via e-mail and your
cards will be in the mail, no SASE or QSLs required on this end.



73,

Mark



Mark Spencer, WA8SME

ARRL, the national association for Amateur RadioT

Education and Technology Program Coordinator

mspencer@xxxx.xxx

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/

530-495-9150





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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:08:41 -0500
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: DN00-01 Grid-pedition Complete
To: "Mark Spencer" <mspencer@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Mark,

Thanks for making the trip and working those rare grids.  Look at the bright
side.... you didn't spend any money Shopping!

73 from Memphis,
Rick - WA4NVM



> Geeeeze, now I know why DN00 and 01 are rare grids!   There literally
> isn't
> anything out there, certainly no local RFI or traffic.   It took 7 hours
> of
> driving round trip for 7 minutes of satellite time.hum 60 to 1, guess that
> ain't bad.  Anyway, thanks to all who stuck it out through some QRM and
> congestion to make contact.  Simply confirm the contact via e-mail and
> your
> cards will be in the mail, no SASE or QSLs required on this end.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Mark Spencer, WA8SME
>
> ARRL, the national association for Amateur RadioT
>
> Education and Technology Program Coordinator
>
> mspencer@xxxx.xxx
>
> http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/
>
> 530-495-9150
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:14:54 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: DN00-01 Grid-pedition Complete
To: "Mark Spencer" <mspencer@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Mark,

Thank you for making the trip and handing out 2 rare grids!


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Spencer" <mspencer@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:51 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] DN00-01 Grid-pedition Complete


> Geeeeze, now I know why DN00 and 01 are rare grids!   There literally
> isn't
> anything out there, certainly no local RFI or traffic.   It took 7 hours
> of
> driving round trip for 7 minutes of satellite time.hum 60 to 1, guess that
> ain't bad.  Anyway, thanks to all who stuck it out through some QRM and
> congestion to make contact.  Simply confirm the contact via e-mail and
> your
> cards will be in the mail, no SASE or QSLs required on this end.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Mark Spencer, WA8SME
>
> ARRL, the national association for Amateur RadioT
>
> Education and Technology Program Coordinator
>
> mspencer@xxxx.xxx
>
> http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/
>
> 530-495-9150
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:46:19 CDT
From: k0vty@xxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 @ 23:20 UTC
To: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Tim

Your post reminded me of a time long ago.
I understand FM and Discriminator capture versus side band.
It was on AO-13 with a group chatting when all of a sudden there was a
very strong signal that
done the same thing to a linear transponder as a strong CW on freq would
do to FM.
As soon as the strong signal cease we attempted to get to the bottom of
the issue.
It took 15 minutes or so when we found we had a Russian EME station on
our hands trying satellite for the first time.
After much attenuation we all had a nice chat.
I never heard that lad after that so I do not know what his summation of
his efforts were.

73's

Joe K0VTY
===================
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
writes:
> Hey everyone,
>
> For those of you who didn't hear the pass, the ability to reach
> AO-51 vaporized about 2/3 through this last orbit up North America
> from the south, thanks to a carrier or some kind of interference
> stronger than I have ever heard. Whatever captured the satellite's
> uplink wiped out every signal trying to reach the satellite, based
> on what I heard from EM84.
>
> I would direct this message to the control team and not post it to
> the BB if I believed for one second that what resulted in complete
> jamming of the satellite was not intentional and malicious.
>
> I believe that it was.
>
> Tim - N3TL
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:25:27 -0700
From: Mark VandeWettering <kf6kyi@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Why do hamsats? (Or anything else...)
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> John.? I would not suggest to ignore it.? But AMSAT is not DARPA and cannot
> in my view afford to fly technology just for technologies sake
>
> Robert WB5MZO

There are all sorts of reasons why flying digital transponders is a
good idea.  Your cell phone (presuming you have one) uses digital
technology to improve battery life, range, and to provide a variety of
other services, including digital data, and the same benefits could be
harnessed aboard amateur satellites.   The desire to do so isn't just
for technology's sake: it is to enable a wide variety of new
capabilities that can't be achieved with conventional analog systems.

I understand the desire for being "conservative", but there is a
different from being conservative and simply ignoring the
revolutionary trends in communication that are enabling revolutions in
phone, data and voip services.

73 Mark K6HX



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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:51:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  IC910/KJ6KO amp project
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx NW VHF <PNWVHFS@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Hello

I have reactivated this project.?? I have finished a sequencer by W6PQL.?
With a handfull of various relays I will be connecting everything together.?
Before the last "smoke test" I would like to hear from anyone who has done
this project before (910's aren't cheap).? I would like to know how you
connected everything PTT for 910, amp, relay timing etc.? Anything else you
can think of.? On satellite uplink at 1268.7Mhz we don't care about
receiving.? However around W. Wa. there is some 1296 activity which is fun
to play with.? Antennas are either a 16 turn helix or two stacked 24 element
loop yagis.

73 Bob W7LRD

CN87



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