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Today's Topics:

   1.  [OT] MixW show all packets? (Jim Tittsler)
   2.  satpc32 qrn (Bob- W7LRD)
   3. Re: satpc32 qrn (Andrew Rich)
   4. Re: satpc32 qrn (myles landstein)
   5. Re: satpc32 qrn (Alan VE4YZ)
   6.  DM92 this evening (Glenn AA5PK)
   7. Re: CAT Control (N0JY)
   8.  FW: [ans]  ANS-284  AMSAT Weekly Bulletins (DOMINICK INTERDONATO)
   9. Re: satpc32 qrn (Jean-Fran?ois M?nard)
  10.  Can we get them to fix AO-40 first then? (David - KG4ZLB)
  11. Re: Can we get them to fix AO-40 first then? (Michael Tondee)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:24:19 +1300
From: Jim Tittsler <ZL2IA@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  [OT] MixW show all packets?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4AD10993.9060002@xxxx.xxx>
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I also have a MixW question:  Is it possible to configure it to show all
9600 baud packets it receives, including those which do not have valid CRCs?



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  satpc32 qrn
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<847189180.2301901255215540796.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxxxx
x.xxx>

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Hello-When I start up satpc32 on my Dell computer I get this annoying qrn
hiss on 2M.? Any simple fixes short of moving the computer further away?? It
is from the computer not the monitor.

73 Bob W7LRD



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:05:53 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 qrn
To: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E0370CAECB114073ACE265EFC0B5DEBD@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Very broad question

Try some things



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:59 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 qrn


>
>
> Hello-When I start up satpc32 on my Dell computer I get this annoying qrn
> hiss on 2M. Any simple fixes short of moving the computer further away? It
> is from the computer not the monitor.
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:31:04 -0400
From: myles landstein <myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 qrn
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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hi

I remember  not  too long  ago  fellow  hams  were polite  and  helpful

don't be discouraged

Bob, I don't use  satpc32, but  it might help if you specify  if  the
problem occurs   strictly  when you start  satpc  or    you get the
noise   when  the computer is on  (regardless of  running  satpc)


if the  problem should occur when  you  turn on the pc,   it is not
uncommon  for  pc's to throw  out  a lot of noise

disconnect   any cables going from the rig to the pc  does the noise
still occur?

if it does  you have to experiment  a bit to see if you can eliminate
the noise,  you might have to  try to  buy a  ac  filter  for the pc
array solutions  makes  one.

you may also have to    try putting  ferrits 
(http://www.dxengineering.com/Products.asp?ID=182&SecID=152&DeptID=42
) on the  cabling  for your  rig

you might want to google around  and search  the ARRL web site     on
trying to mitigate   pc  noise,    ultimately you may have to move
the pc


feel free  to email me directly off the list  i am not expert but
will try to help you


On Oct 10, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Andrew Rich wrote:

>
> Very broad question
>
> Try some things
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:59 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 qrn
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hello-When I start up satpc32 on my Dell computer I get this
>> annoying qrn
>> hiss on 2M. Any simple fixes short of moving the computer further
>> away? It
>> is from the computer not the monitor.
>>
>> 73 Bob W7LRD
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
>> author.
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>> program!
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>>
>
>
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Going to Dayton '10  It will get better with
more support!

Myles     Landstein
N2EHG
myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx







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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:53:50 -0500
From: "Alan VE4YZ" <ve4yz@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 qrn
To: "'Bob- W7LRD'" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <3302AECBC1A34D51BD56BF209F9EAF5D@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

If the same Dell with all the old cables ( CAT, USB, etc ) worked without a
hiss then you need to check what changed. Start with grounding.  One of the
cables may have lost the grounded shield.  You may have rearranged your desk
and the cables run closer together.  Maybe you always had this but usually
ran SATPC32 with the volume low.  The key is "What changed since the last
time it worked okay for you?"  Did you change the video resolution - if so
put it back temporarily.  Did you change external speakers?  Is it the same
with both internal and external speakers.  If the external ones are noisy
then your amp and speakers are picking up RF.

Is the hiss on the Dell speakers or on the radio speakers?  What changed
there? Cables, connectors, position. If on the radio, check that CAT cable
between the Dell and the Radio.

Try it without the CAT cable plugged in, the cable to your rotator
controller - you are removing antennas that my be picking up RF from your
video.

Load other programs, your browser, email client and whatever else you have
on there to see if the noise can be duplicated like SATPC32 then you know
for sure some RF from your video card if getting into the sound system.

It is a matter of removing or changing one item at a time.  Don't do 2 or 3
changes at the same time because you won't know which did the fix.

Think like Sherlock Holmes and eliminate potential causes.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD
Sent: October 10, 2009 5:59 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc32 qrn



Hello-When I start up satpc32 on my Dell computer I get this annoying qrn
hiss on 2M.? Any simple fixes short of moving the computer further away?? It
is from the computer not the monitor.

73 Bob W7LRD

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:30:56 -0500
From: "Glenn AA5PK" <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  DM92 this evening
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <F540D4E282884645957B476DD3617018@xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Thanks to all for being patient while I operated portable from DM92ra on the
2055Z AO-27 pass and the 2255Z AO-51 pass this afternoon.

I worked 22 stations and I know there were a few others calling, but it's
hard to get a call in edgewise sometimes.

I used an Arrow with a Kenwood TH-F6A on the uplink and my trusty old IC-W2A
on the downlink.  I have the Arrow without the built-in diplexer, so that
worked out pretty well.

DM92ra is about 48 miles north of my QTH in the middle of nowhere (there's a
lot of that in WTX).

I'll QSL to all who I worked, no need to QSL me or send an SASE.   Monday's
a U.S. federal holiday (Columbus Day), so they'll go out Tuesday.

Tomorrow (11 Oct), I plan to go 35 miles south to DM90rx.  There are no
decent AO-51 passes during the window I can make it, but there are two good
passes of AO-27 and SO-50.

I'll try to make the 1827Z pass of SO-50 and the 2025Z pass of AO-27.  Those
are my AOS times.

Again, I'll QSL all who I work.

73
Glenn AA5PK
San Angelo, TX



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:55:57 -0500
From: N0JY <n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CAT Control
To: Peter <roi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4AD1574D.8040507@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Peter,

You have to switch the downlink band on the FT-736R in the SAT mode
before you engage the CAT to be the proper downlink band, using the REV
key.  Might that be the problem?

73,
Jerry
N0JY

Peter wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I received this message via the Area Coordinator messages, can anyone help
> him, thank you, send to his e-mail address.
>
> 73,
> Pete, WB2OQQ
>
>
> I have a Yaesu FT-736R with a FIF-232C.
>
> CAT will only control the radio if the down link is UHF. It will not
> control the radio if the down link is VHF. Any suggestions?
>
> The rotor function with a HR-5400A and a LVB Tracker works great.
>
> 73,
>
> Charles Bertuch W2DOC  c.bertuch@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: DOMINICK INTERDONATO <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  FW: [ans]  ANS-284  AMSAT Weekly Bulletins
To: Amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-284

ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North
America, The
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the activities of a
worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest
in
designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and
digital
Amateur Radio satellites.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:

ans-editor@xxxxx.xxx



In this edition:
* AMSAT Election of new Officers at the Symposium
* SpaceX Announces Conference
* AO-51 configuration to support Scouting JOTA
* US Senate Bill Introduced
* AO-51 Configured for JOTA
* ARISS Status - October 4,  2009


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-284.01
AMSAT Election of Officers

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 284.01
   From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 11 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-284.01

At the Baltimore Symposium the initial actions of the newly elected BOD
is to elect new officers.  The seats were filled as follows:

President   Barry Baines, WD4ASW
VP of Engineering   Tony Monteiro, AA2TX
VP of Operations   Drew Glassbrenner, KO4MA
VP of User Services   Gould Smith, WA4SXM
Secretary   Alan Biddle, WA4SCA
Treasurer   Gunther Meisse, W8GSM
Manager   Martha

Congratulations to the newly elected officers.

Also, a fine time was had by all that attended the Baltimore AMSAT
Symposium.  Many excellent presentations were given during the event. At
the annual meeting, the newly elected officers were introduced and new
priorities were introduced.  AMSAT will  offer a DVD of the
presentations.
The Banquet had a great guest speaker, Mr. Collins from the Air and
Space museum.
Plan to attend next years meeting.

(ANS thanks Martha for the above information]

SB Sat @ $ans-284.02
SpaceX announces Conference

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 284.02
   From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 11, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-284.02

Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) has announced a second user
conference
for its commercial product DragonLab?, a free-flying, reusable
spacecraft
capable of hosting pressurized and unpressurized payloads to and from
orbit.
The event will focus on the needs of European users and take place on
October
29th, 2009, in Haarlem, Netherlands.

DragonLab provides a platform for in-space experimentation, including
recovery
of pressurized and some unpressurized payloads, as well as deployment of
small
spacecraft. As a complete system, DragonLab provides a highly capable
spacecraft platform that includes propulsion, power, thermal control,
environmental control, avionics, communications, thermal protection,
flight
software, guidance, navigation and control, entry, descent and landing,
and
recovery.

The user conference is an opportunity for potential customers to explore
DragonLab's capabilities, as well as present customer-specific interests
and
requirements. The agenda includes an overview of the Dragon spacecraft,
concept of operations, payload accommodations and cost parameters.

DragonLab is an alternate configuration of SpaceX's Dragon spacecraft
which,
along with the Falcon 9 launch vehicle, has been contracted by NASA to
provide
cargo resupply services to the International Space Station as early as
2010.

To express interest in attending the user conference, visit
DragonLabUserConference.com.

Space is limited and all participants must receive confirmation from
SpaceX in
order to attend this workshop. For more information or questions
regarding the
user conference, please email DragonLab@xxxxxx.xxx.


[ANS thanks Lee for the above information]


SB Sat @ amsat $ans284.03
US Senate Bill Introduced


AMSAT News Service Bulletin 284.03
   From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 11, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-284.03

RADIO LAW:  SENATE BILL INTRODUCED TO STUDY HAM RADIO EMCOMM

A companion bill to the Amateur Radio Emergency Communications
Enhancement
Act of 2009 was introduced in the U.S. Senate on Tuesday, October 6
by  Connecticut Democrat Joe Lieberman and Maine Republican Susan
Collins.

Titled Senate Bill 1755, it carries the same name as the House measure
introduced this past April by Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee.  The
bill,
if passed, would direct the Department of Homeland Security to undertake
a
study on emergency communications with an emphasis on the role that ham
radio operators play.

S 1755 points out that "There is a strong Federal interest in the
effective
performance of Amateur Radio Service stations, and that performance must
be
given  support at all levels of government; and protection against
unreasonable regulation and impediments to the provision of the valuable
communications provided by such stations.

Introduction of S 1755 is the result of many months of groundwork laid
by
the American Radio Relay League and appears to be directly based on the
basis and purpose of the service.  This as outlined in Section 97.1 of
the
FCC rules.  (ARRL)



[ANS thanks ARRL for the above information]


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-284.04
AO-51 Configured for JOTA

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 284.04
   From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 11, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-284.04

AO-51 configuration to support Scouting JOTA

AMSAT-NA is supporting the 52nd Jamboree on the Air (JOTA) Scouting
event by dedicating AO-51 operation to the event.

For October 17th and 18th, the AO-51 QRP repeater will be allocated
for JOTA use. All users are requested to give way to JOTA stations
or QSOs with JOTA stations.

The frequencies used for this weekend will be 145.880 FM uplink,
and 435.150 FM downlink, no PL tone required. The mode change should
occur at ~00:00 UTC on the 17th (Friday evening in the US) and run
for approximately 48 hours.

AMSAT wishes the Scouts good luck operating via the AO-51 satellite
for the event.

Reports of your JOTA operations should be sent to the AMSAT-BB or
directly to ko4ma@xxxxx.xxx.

Photo files up to 5 Mb total are also welcome for possible inclusion
in an upcoming AMSAT Journal article.

73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Operations

[ANS thanks the AO-51 Operations Team for the above information]




SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-284.05
ARISS Report for Oct 4,2009

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 284.05
   From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 4, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-284.045

1.	Upcoming School Contacts

An Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) contact has
been scheduled for Sint-Michielscollege Brasschaat vzw (SMCB) in
Brasschaat, Belgium on Wednesday, October 7 at 10:20 UTC. Visits to
space and science museums are among the science activities planned for
the children. Guest speakers will include a representative from Verhaert
Space Systems and Dirk Frimout, Belgium?s first astronaut.

An Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) contact has
been scheduled with the National Planetarium in Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah
Persekutuan, Malaysia on Thursday, October 8 at 09:34 UTC. The contact
will occur as part of the National Space Challenge, a program that was
created in an effort to instill the talents and desire towards the
understanding of space in primary school aged children. Sixteen schools
will participate.

An Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) contact has
been scheduled for Belmont Elementary School in Langley, British
Columbia, Canada on Friday, October 9 at 20:20 UTC. Students are working
on projects with a ?Mission Control? theme and the Langley Amateur Radio
Association (L.A.R.A.) is working with the school to organize this
event.

2.	Thirsk Participates in ARISS Contact with R.T. Alderman Students

Astronaut Bob Thirsk, VA3CSA participated in an Amateur Radio on the
International Space Station (ARISS) contact with students attending R.
T. Alderman School in Calgary, Alberta, Canada on Monday, September 28.
An audience of 615 people gathered, watched and listened as Thirsk
answered 15 questions posed to him by the students. Media coverage was
provided by a local television station. After the contact, Thirsk
changed the ISS radio beacon text to read, ?Hello to RT Alderman
School!?

3.	De Winne Speaks with Lisbon, Portugal Students via ARISS

On Thursday, October 1 an Amateur Radio on the International Space
Station (ARISS) contact was held between the Ci?ncia Viva Museum in
Lisbon, Portugal and Frank De Winne, ON1DWN onboard the ISS. Ground
station ON4ISS in Belgium provide the telebridge connection. An audience
of 300 people gathered and watched as twenty-three questions were asked
and answered. The ARISS contact at Ciencia Viva was a major event during
the nationwide celebrated Space Week. The participating students have
been working on space projects for two years and they were highly
motivated to do this science-related activity.

4.	ARISS Contact with University of Liege

An Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) contact took
place on Friday, October 2 between the University of Liege in Belgium
and on-orbit astronaut Frank De Winne, ON1DWN via telebridge station
ON4ISS in Belgium. Eighteen questions were answered before losing
contact with the ISS. The University of Liege offers the only aerospace
engineering education program in the French part of Belgium. In the
context of the OUFTI-1 project (www.oufti.ulg.ac.be) that aims at
building a CubeSat featuring the amateur radio D-STAR technology, an
amateur radio club was formed at the university.

5.	Nicole Stott Participates in ARISS Contact with Italian Students

On Friday, October 2, students attending Scuola Secondaria 1? Grado
?Alighieri ? Trevigi? in Casale Monferrato, Prov. Alessandria, Italy
participated in an Amateur Radio on the International Space Station
(ARISS) contact. The youth asked Nicole Stott, KE5GJN 21 questions as an
audience of 200 students, parents and teachers looked on. Local media
provided news coverage. The event was streamed live on the internet and
the audio was fed into the EchoLink AMSAT and JK1ZRW servers. The
contact motivated the youth to study Science, History, Geography,
Information Technology and English.

6.	ARISS Contact with Boy Scouts of Canada

On Saturday, October 3, Scouts of Canada in Ottawa, Ontario experienced
an Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) contact.
Three hundred scouts and parents were present as Robert Thirsk VA3CSA
answered questions about life and work in space. Thirsk turned over a
few questions to Mr. Guy Laliberte, Circ De Soleil president and
spaceflight participant. Audio was fed into the EchoLink AMSAT and
JK1ZRW servers. The ARISS contact was held in conjunction with the Scout
Science Badge Award system.

7.	ARISS News on Amateur Radio Newsline

On October 2, Amateur Radio Newsline Report 1677 reported on Amateur
Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) astronaut licensing. To
view ?Ham Radio in Space:  New Ham Astronaut is KF5DBF,? see:
ftp://ftp.arnewsline.org/quincy/News-A/news.txt


73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Dee Interdonato, NB2F
nb2f at amsat dot org


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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:26:58 -0400
From: Jean-Fran?ois M?nard <jf.va2ss@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satpc32 qrn
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<b6cfdc060910110726w44d5454ag4b2b477d1b00f1fc@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi, are you using serial RS-232 or USB to communicate between your
computerand radio ?

Do this test, start everyhthing as usual and remove only the communication
cable between the rig and the radio. Does the qrn go away ?

2009/10/10 Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>

>
>
> Hello-When I start up satpc32 on my Dell computer I get this annoying qrn
> hiss on 2M.  Any simple fixes short of moving the computer further away?  It
> is from the computer not the monitor.
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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--
Jean-Fran?ois M?nard
VA2SS

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:30:31 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Can we get them to fix AO-40 first then?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4AD20827.10608@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


  Rogue satellites to be cleared from Earth's orbit by German robots

German-built robots are to be sent into Earth's orbit to repair 'dead
satellites' or push them into outer space, according to a report in
Sunday's Guardian newspaper.

Robots that rescue failing satellites and push 'dead' ones into outer
space should be ready in four years, it has emerged. Experts described
the development by German scientists as a crucial step in preventing a
disaster in the Earth's crowded orbit.

Last year it was reported that critical levels of debris circling the
Earth were threatening astronauts' lives and the future of the
multibillion-pound satellite communications industry. But senior figures
at the German Aerospace Centre (DLR) told the /Observer/ they have been
given the go-ahead to tackle a crisis that will come to a head in the
next five to 10 years as more orbiting objects run out of fuel.

Their robots will dock with failing satellites to carry out repairs or
push them into "graveyard orbits", freeing vital space in geostationary
orbit. This is the narrow band 22,000 miles above the Earth in which
orbiting objects appear fixed at the same point. More than 200 dead
satellites litter this orbit. Within 10 years that number could increase
fivefold, the International Association for the Advancement of Space
Safety has warned.

You can read the full article / 'Rogue satellites to be cleared from
Earth's orbit by German robots'/ at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/oct/11/space-robots-clear-rogue-satelli
tes

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David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com



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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:29:07 -0400
From: Michael Tondee <mat_62@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Can we get them to fix AO-40 first then?
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I'm sure you are joking with the AO-40 reference. No one is interested
in helping amateurs put new sats into orbit much less fixing one of our
broken ones. :-)
73,
Michael, W4HIJ

David - KG4ZLB wrote:
>   Rogue satellites to be cleared from Earth's orbit by German robots
>
> German-built robots are to be sent into Earth's orbit to repair 'dead
> satellites' or push them into outer space, according to a report in
> Sunday's Guardian newspaper.
>
> Robots that rescue failing satellites and push 'dead' ones into outer
> space should be ready in four years, it has emerged. Experts described
> the development by German scientists as a crucial step in preventing a
> disaster in the Earth's crowded orbit.
>
> Last year it was reported that critical levels of debris circling the
> Earth were threatening astronauts' lives and the future of the
> multibillion-pound satellite communications industry. But senior figures
> at the German Aerospace Centre (DLR) told the /Observer/ they have been
> given the go-ahead to tackle a crisis that will come to a head in the
> next five to 10 years as more orbiting objects run out of fuel.
>
> Their robots will dock with failing satellites to carry out repairs or
> push them into "graveyard orbits", freeing vital space in geostationary
> orbit. This is the narrow band 22,000 miles above the Earth in which
> orbiting objects appear fixed at the same point. More than 200 dead
> satellites litter this orbit. Within 10 years that number could increase
> fivefold, the International Association for the Advancement of Space
> Safety has warned.
>
> You can read the full article / 'Rogue satellites to be cleared from
> Earth's orbit by German robots'/ at:
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/oct/11/space-robots-clear-rogue-satelli
tes
>
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