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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: All Satellites (John W Lee)
   2. Re: All Satellites (Rocky Jones)
   3. Re: All Satellites (Rocky Jones)
   4. Re: All Satellites (STeve Andre')
   5. Re: All Satellites (David - KG4ZLB)
   6. Re: All Satellites (Jim Jerzycke)
   7. Re: All Satellites (James Duffey)
   8. Re: All Satellites (Trevor .)
   9. Re: All Satellites (Alan P. Biddle)
  10. Re: All Satellites (Bill Ress)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:31:40 -0800
From: John W Lee <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090925.113152.3508.0.k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
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I wonder how many of those 50  are able to handle
ham radio 2-way contacts ?

K6YK

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:09:43 +0000 Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
<nigel@xxxxx.xxx> writes:
> Here's a list of all (known to me) satellites still in orbit with
> some designed in (but not necessarily operational)
> amateur band functionality.
>
> For those that think nothing has been happening recently, there have
> been 26 (so far) satellites launched this year, 13
> in 2008 and 11 in 2007. Thats 50 birds in less than the past 3
> years.
>
> Catalog Number        Common Name        International
> Designator        Comments
> 1293         OSCAR 3         1965-016F
> 6236         OSCAR 6         1972-082B
> 7530         OSCAR 7         1974-089B
> 10703         OSCAR 8         1978-026B
> 14129         OSCAR 10         1983-058B
> 14781         OSCAR 11 (UoSAT 2)         1984-021B
> 16909         JAS 1 (FUJI 1)         1986-061B
> 20437         OSCAR 14 (UoSAT 3)         1990-005B
> 20438         OSCAR 15 (UoSAT 4)         1990-005C
> 20439         OSCAR 16 (PACSAT)         1990-005D
> 20440         OSCAR 17 (DOVE)         1990-005E
> 20441         OSCAR 18 (WEBERSAT)         1990-005F
> 20442         OSCAR 19 (LUSAT)         1990-005G
> 20480         JAS 1B (FUJI 2)         1990-013C
> 21039         SL-12 R/B(1)         1990-116B
> 21087         INFORMATOR 1         1991-006A
> 21089         COSMOS 2123         1991-007A
> 21575         OSCAR 22 (UoSAT 5)         1991-050B
> 22825         KITSAT B         1993-061C
> 22826         POSAT 1         1993-061D
> 22828         ITAMSAT         1993-061F
> 22829         EYESAT A         1993-061G
> 23439         RADIO ROSTO         1994-085A
> 24278         JAS 2         1996-046B
> 24305         UNAMSAT         1996-052B
> 25396         TMSAT         1998-043C
> 25397         TECHSAT 1B         1998-043D
> 25509         SEDSAT 1         1998-061B
> 25520         PAN SAT         1998-064B
> 25544         ISS (ZARYA)         1998-067A
> 25636         SUNSAT         1999-008C
> 25693         OSCAR 36 (UoSAT 12)         1999-021A
> 25756         KITSAT 3         1999-029A
> 26063         OPAL         2000-004C
> 26545         SAUDISAT 1A         2000-057A
> 26548         TIUNGSAT 1         2000-057D
> 26609         AMSAT OSCAR 40         2000-072B
> 26931         PCSAT         2001-043C
> 26932         SAPPHIRE         2001-043D
> 27605         RUBIN 2         2002-058A
> 27607         SAUDISAT 1C         2002-058C
> 27842         DTUSAT         2003-031C
> 27844         CUTE-1         2003-031E
> 27845         QUAKESAT         2003-031F
> 27847         CANX-1         2003-031H
> 27848         CUBESAT XI-IV         2003-031J
> 27939         MOZHAYETS 4         2003-042A
> 28375         AMSAT ECHO         2004-025K
> 28650         HAMSAT         2005-017B
> 28890         BEIJING 1 (TSINGHUA)         2005-043A
> 28891         TOPSAT         2005-043B
> 28892         UWE-1         2005-043C
> 28893         SINAH 1         2005-043D
> 28894         SSETI-EXPRESS         2005-043E
> 28895         CUBESAT XI-V         2005-043F
> 28897         SSETI-EXPRESS DEB         2005-043H
> 28898         MOZ.5/SAFIR/RUBIN 5/SL-8         2005-043G
> 28941         CUTE 1.7         2006-005C
> 29252         GENESIS 1         2006-029A
> 29479         HINODE (SOLAR B)         2006-041A
> 29655         GENESAT         2006-058C
> 29712         PEHUENSAT 1         2007-001D
> 31117         EGYPTSAT 1         2007-012A
> 31122         CSTB 1         2007-012F
> 31126         MAST         2007-012K
> 31128         LIBERTAD 1         2007-012M
> 31129         CP3         2007-012N
> 31130         CAPE 1         2007-012P
> 31132         CP4         2007-012Q
> 31135         AGILE         2007-013A
> 31140         NFIRE         2007-014A
> 31789         GENESIS 2         2007-028A
> 32781         GIOVE-B         2008-020A
> 32783         CARTOSAT 2A         2008-021A
> 32784         CANX-6         2008-021B
> 32785         CUTE 1.7 & AOD 2         2008-021C
> 32786         IMS-1         2008-021D
> 32787         COMPASS 1         2008-021E
> 32788         AAUSAT CUBESAT 2         2008-021F
> 32789         DELFI C3         2008-021G
> 32790         CANX-2         2008-021H
> 32791         SEEDS         2008-021J
> 32792         RUBIN 8/PSLV         2008-021K
> 32794         AMOS 3         2008-022A
> 32953         YUBILEINY         2008-025A
> 33492         GOSAT (IBUKI)         2009-002A
> 33493         PRISM (HITOMI)         2009-002B
> 33494         SPRITE-SAT (RISING)         2009-002C
> 33495         KAGAYAKI         2009-002D
> 33496         SOHLA-1 (MAIDO-1)         2009-002E
> 33498         STARS (KUKAI)         2009-002G
> 33499         KKS-1 (KISEKI)         2009-002H
> 33595         EXPRESS AM-44         2009-007A
> 34808         ANUSAT         2009-019B
> 34941         PROTOSTAR 2         2009-027A
> 35002         PHARMASAT         2009-028B
> 35003         HAWKSAT 1         2009-028C
> 35004         CP6         2009-028D
> 35005         AEROCUBE 3         2009-028E
> 35008         MERIDIAN 2         2009-029A
> 35690         DRAGONSAT         2009-038B
> 35693         ANDE POLLUX SPHERE         2009-038E
> 35694         ANDE CASTOR SPHERE         2009-038F
> 35866         OBJECT B         2009-049B
> 35867         FREGAT/IRIS         2009-049C
> 35868         OBJECT D         2009-049D
> 35869         OBJECT E         2009-049E
> 35870         SUMBANDILA         2009-049F
> 35871         BLITS         2009-049G
> 35931         OCEANSAT 2         2009-051A
> 35932         OBJECT B         2009-051B
> 35933         OBJECT C         2009-051C
> 35934         OBJECT D         2009-051D
> 35935         OBJECT E         2009-051E
> 35936         RUBIN 9.1/RUBIN 9.2/PSLV         2009-051F
>
>
>
>
> --
> Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA.
> tel +1 937 825 5032
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx
>  www  http://www.ngunn.net
> Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548,  Flying Pigs
> QRP Club International #385,
>             Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182,
> MKARS,  ALC, GCARES, XWARN.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:54:27 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W21018E287B1ED1531AA876D6D90@xxx.xxx>
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I would trade everyone of them that launched in the last 3 years for the
first five on the list being active ...OK we have 1 out of the first 5 but
all five would be nice...

BTW I am quite sure Oscar V is still in orbit...but without ANY solar cell
ability...we wont be hearing from it again....and it wasnt a transponder 
But I still have a tape of it...!

BTW Xenia OH is a cool place...when I was TDY in  Cleveland for a bit a
friend who worked where I was flying has a farm there...he recently sold me
some Silver Appleyard duck eggs to stock our pond...

Robert WB5MZO

> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:09:43 +0000
> From: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  All Satellites
>
> Here's a list of all (known to me) satellites still in orbit with some
designed in (but not necessarily operational)
> amateur band functionality.
>
> For those that think nothing has been happening recently, there have been
26 (so far) satellites launched this year, 13
> in 2008 and 11 in 2007. Thats 50 birds in less than the past 3 years.
>
> Catalog Number	Common Name	International Designator	Comments
> 1293 	OSCAR 3 	1965-016F 	
> 6236 	OSCAR 6 	1972-082B 	
> 7530 	OSCAR 7 	1974-089B 	
> 10703 	OSCAR 8 	1978-026B 	
> 14129 	OSCAR 10 	1983-058B 	
> 14781 	OSCAR 11 (UoSAT 2) 	1984-021B 	
> 16909 	JAS 1 (FUJI 1) 	1986-061B 	
> 20437 	OSCAR 14 (UoSAT 3) 	1990-005B 	
> 20438 	OSCAR 15 (UoSAT 4) 	1990-005C 	
> 20439 	OSCAR 16 (PACSAT) 	1990-005D 	
> 20440 	OSCAR 17 (DOVE) 	1990-005E 	
> 20441 	OSCAR 18 (WEBERSAT) 	1990-005F 	
> 20442 	OSCAR 19 (LUSAT) 	1990-005G 	
> 20480 	JAS 1B (FUJI 2) 	1990-013C 	
> 21039 	SL-12 R/B(1) 	1990-116B 	
> 21087 	INFORMATOR 1 	1991-006A 	
> 21089 	COSMOS 2123 	1991-007A 	
> 21575 	OSCAR 22 (UoSAT 5) 	1991-050B 	
> 22825 	KITSAT B 	1993-061C 	
> 22826 	POSAT 1 	1993-061D 	
> 22828 	ITAMSAT 	1993-061F 	
> 22829 	EYESAT A 	1993-061G 	
> 23439 	RADIO ROSTO 	1994-085A 	
> 24278 	JAS 2 	1996-046B 	
> 24305 	UNAMSAT 	1996-052B 	
> 25396 	TMSAT 	1998-043C 	
> 25397 	TECHSAT 1B 	1998-043D 	
> 25509 	SEDSAT 1 	1998-061B 	
> 25520 	PAN SAT 	1998-064B 	
> 25544 	ISS (ZARYA) 	1998-067A 	
> 25636 	SUNSAT 	1999-008C 	
> 25693 	OSCAR 36 (UoSAT 12) 	1999-021A 	
> 25756 	KITSAT 3 	1999-029A 	
> 26063 	OPAL 	2000-004C 	
> 26545 	SAUDISAT 1A 	2000-057A 	
> 26548 	TIUNGSAT 1 	2000-057D 	
> 26609 	AMSAT OSCAR 40 	2000-072B 	
> 26931 	PCSAT 	2001-043C 	
> 26932 	SAPPHIRE 	2001-043D 	
> 27605 	RUBIN 2 	2002-058A 	
> 27607 	SAUDISAT 1C 	2002-058C 	
> 27842 	DTUSAT 	2003-031C 	
> 27844 	CUTE-1 	2003-031E 	
> 27845 	QUAKESAT 	2003-031F 	
> 27847 	CANX-1 	2003-031H 	
> 27848 	CUBESAT XI-IV 	2003-031J 	
> 27939 	MOZHAYETS 4 	2003-042A 	
> 28375 	AMSAT ECHO 	2004-025K 	
> 28650 	HAMSAT 	2005-017B 	
> 28890 	BEIJING 1 (TSINGHUA) 	2005-043A 	
> 28891 	TOPSAT 	2005-043B 	
> 28892 	UWE-1 	2005-043C 	
> 28893 	SINAH 1 	2005-043D 	
> 28894 	SSETI-EXPRESS 	2005-043E 	
> 28895 	CUBESAT XI-V 	2005-043F 	
> 28897 	SSETI-EXPRESS DEB 	2005-043H 	
> 28898 	MOZ.5/SAFIR/RUBIN 5/SL-8 	2005-043G 	
> 28941 	CUTE 1.7 	2006-005C 	
> 29252 	GENESIS 1 	2006-029A 	
> 29479 	HINODE (SOLAR B) 	2006-041A 	
> 29655 	GENESAT 	2006-058C 	
> 29712 	PEHUENSAT 1 	2007-001D 	
> 31117 	EGYPTSAT 1 	2007-012A 	
> 31122 	CSTB 1 	2007-012F 	
> 31126 	MAST 	2007-012K 	
> 31128 	LIBERTAD 1 	2007-012M 	
> 31129 	CP3 	2007-012N 	
> 31130 	CAPE 1 	2007-012P 	
> 31132 	CP4 	2007-012Q 	
> 31135 	AGILE 	2007-013A 	
> 31140 	NFIRE 	2007-014A 	
> 31789 	GENESIS 2 	2007-028A 	
> 32781 	GIOVE-B 	2008-020A 	
> 32783 	CARTOSAT 2A 	2008-021A 	
> 32784 	CANX-6 	2008-021B 	
> 32785 	CUTE 1.7 & AOD 2 	2008-021C 	
> 32786 	IMS-1 	2008-021D 	
> 32787 	COMPASS 1 	2008-021E 	
> 32788 	AAUSAT CUBESAT 2 	2008-021F 	
> 32789 	DELFI C3 	2008-021G 	
> 32790 	CANX-2 	2008-021H 	
> 32791 	SEEDS 	2008-021J 	
> 32792 	RUBIN 8/PSLV 	2008-021K 	
> 32794 	AMOS 3 	2008-022A 	
> 32953 	YUBILEINY 	2008-025A 	
> 33492 	GOSAT (IBUKI) 	2009-002A 	
> 33493 	PRISM (HITOMI) 	2009-002B 	
> 33494 	SPRITE-SAT (RISING) 	2009-002C 	
> 33495 	KAGAYAKI 	2009-002D 	
> 33496 	SOHLA-1 (MAIDO-1) 	2009-002E 	
> 33498 	STARS (KUKAI) 	2009-002G 	
> 33499 	KKS-1 (KISEKI) 	2009-002H 	
> 33595 	EXPRESS AM-44 	2009-007A 	
> 34808 	ANUSAT 	2009-019B 	
> 34941 	PROTOSTAR 2 	2009-027A 	
> 35002 	PHARMASAT 	2009-028B 	
> 35003 	HAWKSAT 1 	2009-028C 	
> 35004 	CP6 	2009-028D 	
> 35005 	AEROCUBE 3 	2009-028E 	
> 35008 	MERIDIAN 2 	2009-029A 	
> 35690 	DRAGONSAT 	2009-038B 	
> 35693 	ANDE POLLUX SPHERE 	2009-038E 	
> 35694 	ANDE CASTOR SPHERE 	2009-038F 	
> 35866 	OBJECT B 	2009-049B 	
> 35867 	FREGAT/IRIS 	2009-049C 	
> 35868 	OBJECT D 	2009-049D 	
> 35869 	OBJECT E 	2009-049E 	
> 35870 	SUMBANDILA 	2009-049F 	
> 35871 	BLITS 	2009-049G 	
> 35931 	OCEANSAT 2 	2009-051A 	
> 35932 	OBJECT B 	2009-051B 	
> 35933 	OBJECT C 	2009-051C 	
> 35934 	OBJECT D 	2009-051D 	
> 35935 	OBJECT E 	2009-051E 	
> 35936 	RUBIN 9.1/RUBIN 9.2/PSLV 	2009-051F
>
>
>
>
> --
> Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA.  tel +1
937 825 5032
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx       www 
http://www.ngunn.net
> Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548,  Flying Pigs QRP
Club International #385,
>             Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, 
ALC, GCARES, XWARN.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 		 	   		
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:56:37 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>, <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W153D6883AAE845C7077DE7D6D90@xxx.xxx>
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The hamsat bands are slowly being converted into "cheap" telemetry bands...

Robert WB5MZO

> To: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:31:40 -0800
> From: k6yk@xxxx.xxx
> CC: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
>
> I wonder how many of those 50  are able to handle
> ham radio 2-way contacts ?
>
> K6YK
>
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:09:43 +0000 Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
> <nigel@xxxxx.xxx> writes:
> > Here's a list of all (known to me) satellites still in orbit with
> > some designed in (but not necessarily operational)
> > amateur band functionality.
> >
> > For those that think nothing has been happening recently, there have
> > been 26 (so far) satellites launched this year, 13
> > in 2008 and 11 in 2007. Thats 50 birds in less than the past 3
> > years.
> >
> > Catalog Number        Common Name        International
> > Designator        Comments
> > 1293         OSCAR 3         1965-016F
> > 6236         OSCAR 6         1972-082B
> > 7530         OSCAR 7         1974-089B
> > 10703         OSCAR 8         1978-026B
> > 14129         OSCAR 10         1983-058B
> > 14781         OSCAR 11 (UoSAT 2)         1984-021B
> > 16909         JAS 1 (FUJI 1)         1986-061B
> > 20437         OSCAR 14 (UoSAT 3)         1990-005B
> > 20438         OSCAR 15 (UoSAT 4)         1990-005C
> > 20439         OSCAR 16 (PACSAT)         1990-005D
> > 20440         OSCAR 17 (DOVE)         1990-005E
> > 20441         OSCAR 18 (WEBERSAT)         1990-005F
> > 20442         OSCAR 19 (LUSAT)         1990-005G
> > 20480         JAS 1B (FUJI 2)         1990-013C
> > 21039         SL-12 R/B(1)         1990-116B
> > 21087         INFORMATOR 1         1991-006A
> > 21089         COSMOS 2123         1991-007A
> > 21575         OSCAR 22 (UoSAT 5)         1991-050B
> > 22825         KITSAT B         1993-061C
> > 22826         POSAT 1         1993-061D
> > 22828         ITAMSAT         1993-061F
> > 22829         EYESAT A         1993-061G
> > 23439         RADIO ROSTO         1994-085A
> > 24278         JAS 2         1996-046B
> > 24305         UNAMSAT         1996-052B
> > 25396         TMSAT         1998-043C
> > 25397         TECHSAT 1B         1998-043D
> > 25509         SEDSAT 1         1998-061B
> > 25520         PAN SAT         1998-064B
> > 25544         ISS (ZARYA)         1998-067A
> > 25636         SUNSAT         1999-008C
> > 25693         OSCAR 36 (UoSAT 12)         1999-021A
> > 25756         KITSAT 3         1999-029A
> > 26063         OPAL         2000-004C
> > 26545         SAUDISAT 1A         2000-057A
> > 26548         TIUNGSAT 1         2000-057D
> > 26609         AMSAT OSCAR 40         2000-072B
> > 26931         PCSAT         2001-043C
> > 26932         SAPPHIRE         2001-043D
> > 27605         RUBIN 2         2002-058A
> > 27607         SAUDISAT 1C         2002-058C
> > 27842         DTUSAT         2003-031C
> > 27844         CUTE-1         2003-031E
> > 27845         QUAKESAT         2003-031F
> > 27847         CANX-1         2003-031H
> > 27848         CUBESAT XI-IV         2003-031J
> > 27939         MOZHAYETS 4         2003-042A
> > 28375         AMSAT ECHO         2004-025K
> > 28650         HAMSAT         2005-017B
> > 28890         BEIJING 1 (TSINGHUA)         2005-043A
> > 28891         TOPSAT         2005-043B
> > 28892         UWE-1         2005-043C
> > 28893         SINAH 1         2005-043D
> > 28894         SSETI-EXPRESS         2005-043E
> > 28895         CUBESAT XI-V         2005-043F
> > 28897         SSETI-EXPRESS DEB         2005-043H
> > 28898         MOZ.5/SAFIR/RUBIN 5/SL-8         2005-043G
> > 28941         CUTE 1.7         2006-005C
> > 29252         GENESIS 1         2006-029A
> > 29479         HINODE (SOLAR B)         2006-041A
> > 29655         GENESAT         2006-058C
> > 29712         PEHUENSAT 1         2007-001D
> > 31117         EGYPTSAT 1         2007-012A
> > 31122         CSTB 1         2007-012F
> > 31126         MAST         2007-012K
> > 31128         LIBERTAD 1         2007-012M
> > 31129         CP3         2007-012N
> > 31130         CAPE 1         2007-012P
> > 31132         CP4         2007-012Q
> > 31135         AGILE         2007-013A
> > 31140         NFIRE         2007-014A
> > 31789         GENESIS 2         2007-028A
> > 32781         GIOVE-B         2008-020A
> > 32783         CARTOSAT 2A         2008-021A
> > 32784         CANX-6         2008-021B
> > 32785         CUTE 1.7 & AOD 2         2008-021C
> > 32786         IMS-1         2008-021D
> > 32787         COMPASS 1         2008-021E
> > 32788         AAUSAT CUBESAT 2         2008-021F
> > 32789         DELFI C3         2008-021G
> > 32790         CANX-2         2008-021H
> > 32791         SEEDS         2008-021J
> > 32792         RUBIN 8/PSLV         2008-021K
> > 32794         AMOS 3         2008-022A
> > 32953         YUBILEINY         2008-025A
> > 33492         GOSAT (IBUKI)         2009-002A
> > 33493         PRISM (HITOMI)         2009-002B
> > 33494         SPRITE-SAT (RISING)         2009-002C
> > 33495         KAGAYAKI         2009-002D
> > 33496         SOHLA-1 (MAIDO-1)         2009-002E
> > 33498         STARS (KUKAI)         2009-002G
> > 33499         KKS-1 (KISEKI)         2009-002H
> > 33595         EXPRESS AM-44         2009-007A
> > 34808         ANUSAT         2009-019B
> > 34941         PROTOSTAR 2         2009-027A
> > 35002         PHARMASAT         2009-028B
> > 35003         HAWKSAT 1         2009-028C
> > 35004         CP6         2009-028D
> > 35005         AEROCUBE 3         2009-028E
> > 35008         MERIDIAN 2         2009-029A
> > 35690         DRAGONSAT         2009-038B
> > 35693         ANDE POLLUX SPHERE         2009-038E
> > 35694         ANDE CASTOR SPHERE         2009-038F
> > 35866         OBJECT B         2009-049B
> > 35867         FREGAT/IRIS         2009-049C
> > 35868         OBJECT D         2009-049D
> > 35869         OBJECT E         2009-049E
> > 35870         SUMBANDILA         2009-049F
> > 35871         BLITS         2009-049G
> > 35931         OCEANSAT 2         2009-051A
> > 35932         OBJECT B         2009-051B
> > 35933         OBJECT C         2009-051C
> > 35934         OBJECT D         2009-051D
> > 35935         OBJECT E         2009-051E
> > 35936         RUBIN 9.1/RUBIN 9.2/PSLV         2009-051F
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA.
> > tel +1 937 825 5032
> > Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx
> >  www  http://www.ngunn.net
> > Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548,  Flying Pigs
> > QRP Club International #385,
> >             Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182,
> > MKARS,  ALC, GCARES, XWARN.
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:05:09 -0400
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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   I don't see it that way.

   Every project is a set of people who have participated in what is
at first something technical, then magical.  I have never talked
with someone who has worked on something going into space
that hasn't set back at some point and marveled at it.  How many
folks have we all done demos for, and heard "Wow......!" ?

   With the technology to get things into some kind of orbit
coming down, its only reasonable to expect that more and more
organizations will make the attempt.  Some will get amateur
licenses just so they can to telemetry, but there is an interesting
effect there, which is that some of them stick around and
become hams, as oposed to just being licensed.

I've met two people who were in some project and got licences,
and once they attended a Dayton Hamvention, they were hooked.
I've seen one of them several times now, at Dayton.

So sure, we offer cheap telemetry but the side effects are priceless.

--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf  en82


On Friday 25 September 2009 15:56:37 Rocky Jones wrote:
> The hamsat bands are slowly being converted into "cheap" telemetry bands...
>
> Robert WB5MZO
>
> > To: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
> > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:31:40 -0800
> > From: k6yk@xxxx.xxx
> > CC: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
> >
> > I wonder how many of those 50  are able to handle
> > ham radio 2-way contacts ?
> >
> > K6YK
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:09:43 +0000 Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
> >
> > <nigel@xxxxx.xxx> writes:
> > > Here's a list of all (known to me) satellites still in orbit with
> > > some designed in (but not necessarily operational)
> > > amateur band functionality.
> > >
> > > For those that think nothing has been happening recently, there have
> > > been 26 (so far) satellites launched this year, 13
> > > in 2008 and 11 in 2007. Thats 50 birds in less than the past 3
> > > years.
> > >
> > > Catalog Number        Common Name        International
> > > Designator        Comments
> > > 1293         OSCAR 3         1965-016F
> > > 6236         OSCAR 6         1972-082B
> > > 7530         OSCAR 7         1974-089B
> > > 10703         OSCAR 8         1978-026B
> > > 14129         OSCAR 10         1983-058B
> > > 14781         OSCAR 11 (UoSAT 2)         1984-021B
> > > 16909         JAS 1 (FUJI 1)         1986-061B
> > > 20437         OSCAR 14 (UoSAT 3)         1990-005B
> > > 20438         OSCAR 15 (UoSAT 4)         1990-005C
> > > 20439         OSCAR 16 (PACSAT)         1990-005D
> > > 20440         OSCAR 17 (DOVE)         1990-005E
> > > 20441         OSCAR 18 (WEBERSAT)         1990-005F
> > > 20442         OSCAR 19 (LUSAT)         1990-005G
> > > 20480         JAS 1B (FUJI 2)         1990-013C
> > > 21039         SL-12 R/B(1)         1990-116B
> > > 21087         INFORMATOR 1         1991-006A
> > > 21089         COSMOS 2123         1991-007A
> > > 21575         OSCAR 22 (UoSAT 5)         1991-050B
> > > 22825         KITSAT B         1993-061C
> > > 22826         POSAT 1         1993-061D
> > > 22828         ITAMSAT         1993-061F
> > > 22829         EYESAT A         1993-061G
> > > 23439         RADIO ROSTO         1994-085A
> > > 24278         JAS 2         1996-046B
> > > 24305         UNAMSAT         1996-052B
> > > 25396         TMSAT         1998-043C
> > > 25397         TECHSAT 1B         1998-043D
> > > 25509         SEDSAT 1         1998-061B
> > > 25520         PAN SAT         1998-064B
> > > 25544         ISS (ZARYA)         1998-067A
> > > 25636         SUNSAT         1999-008C
> > > 25693         OSCAR 36 (UoSAT 12)         1999-021A
> > > 25756         KITSAT 3         1999-029A
> > > 26063         OPAL         2000-004C
> > > 26545         SAUDISAT 1A         2000-057A
> > > 26548         TIUNGSAT 1         2000-057D
> > > 26609         AMSAT OSCAR 40         2000-072B
> > > 26931         PCSAT         2001-043C
> > > 26932         SAPPHIRE         2001-043D
> > > 27605         RUBIN 2         2002-058A
> > > 27607         SAUDISAT 1C         2002-058C
> > > 27842         DTUSAT         2003-031C
> > > 27844         CUTE-1         2003-031E
> > > 27845         QUAKESAT         2003-031F
> > > 27847         CANX-1         2003-031H
> > > 27848         CUBESAT XI-IV         2003-031J
> > > 27939         MOZHAYETS 4         2003-042A
> > > 28375         AMSAT ECHO         2004-025K
> > > 28650         HAMSAT         2005-017B
> > > 28890         BEIJING 1 (TSINGHUA)         2005-043A
> > > 28891         TOPSAT         2005-043B
> > > 28892         UWE-1         2005-043C
> > > 28893         SINAH 1         2005-043D
> > > 28894         SSETI-EXPRESS         2005-043E
> > > 28895         CUBESAT XI-V         2005-043F
> > > 28897         SSETI-EXPRESS DEB         2005-043H
> > > 28898         MOZ.5/SAFIR/RUBIN 5/SL-8         2005-043G
> > > 28941         CUTE 1.7         2006-005C
> > > 29252         GENESIS 1         2006-029A
> > > 29479         HINODE (SOLAR B)         2006-041A
> > > 29655         GENESAT         2006-058C
> > > 29712         PEHUENSAT 1         2007-001D
> > > 31117         EGYPTSAT 1         2007-012A
> > > 31122         CSTB 1         2007-012F
> > > 31126         MAST         2007-012K
> > > 31128         LIBERTAD 1         2007-012M
> > > 31129         CP3         2007-012N
> > > 31130         CAPE 1         2007-012P
> > > 31132         CP4         2007-012Q
> > > 31135         AGILE         2007-013A
> > > 31140         NFIRE         2007-014A
> > > 31789         GENESIS 2         2007-028A
> > > 32781         GIOVE-B         2008-020A
> > > 32783         CARTOSAT 2A         2008-021A
> > > 32784         CANX-6         2008-021B
> > > 32785         CUTE 1.7 & AOD 2         2008-021C
> > > 32786         IMS-1         2008-021D
> > > 32787         COMPASS 1         2008-021E
> > > 32788         AAUSAT CUBESAT 2         2008-021F
> > > 32789         DELFI C3         2008-021G
> > > 32790         CANX-2         2008-021H
> > > 32791         SEEDS         2008-021J
> > > 32792         RUBIN 8/PSLV         2008-021K
> > > 32794         AMOS 3         2008-022A
> > > 32953         YUBILEINY         2008-025A
> > > 33492         GOSAT (IBUKI)         2009-002A
> > > 33493         PRISM (HITOMI)         2009-002B
> > > 33494         SPRITE-SAT (RISING)         2009-002C
> > > 33495         KAGAYAKI         2009-002D
> > > 33496         SOHLA-1 (MAIDO-1)         2009-002E
> > > 33498         STARS (KUKAI)         2009-002G
> > > 33499         KKS-1 (KISEKI)         2009-002H
> > > 33595         EXPRESS AM-44         2009-007A
> > > 34808         ANUSAT         2009-019B
> > > 34941         PROTOSTAR 2         2009-027A
> > > 35002         PHARMASAT         2009-028B
> > > 35003         HAWKSAT 1         2009-028C
> > > 35004         CP6         2009-028D
> > > 35005         AEROCUBE 3         2009-028E
> > > 35008         MERIDIAN 2         2009-029A
> > > 35690         DRAGONSAT         2009-038B
> > > 35693         ANDE POLLUX SPHERE         2009-038E
> > > 35694         ANDE CASTOR SPHERE         2009-038F
> > > 35866         OBJECT B         2009-049B
> > > 35867         FREGAT/IRIS         2009-049C
> > > 35868         OBJECT D         2009-049D
> > > 35869         OBJECT E         2009-049E
> > > 35870         SUMBANDILA         2009-049F
> > > 35871         BLITS         2009-049G
> > > 35931         OCEANSAT 2         2009-051A
> > > 35932         OBJECT B         2009-051B
> > > 35933         OBJECT C         2009-051C
> > > 35934         OBJECT D         2009-051D
> > > 35935         OBJECT E         2009-051E
> > > 35936         RUBIN 9.1/RUBIN 9.2/PSLV         2009-051F
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA.
> > > tel +1 937 825 5032
> > > Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx
> > >  www  http://www.ngunn.net
> > > Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548,  Flying Pigs
> > > QRP Club International #385,
> > >             Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182,
> > > MKARS,  ALC, GCARES, XWARN.





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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:10:35 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I hate to say it but you may be right - the sky is now full of
"beep-beep" sats!

David KG4ZLB



Rocky Jones wrote:
> The hamsat bands are slowly being converted into "cheap" telemetry bands...
>
> Robert WB5MZO
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx David M0ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Do any of these have potential for Amateur use after their "primary mission"
is completed? If they can be repurposed like AO-27, then I don't have any
complaints. If, OTOH, all they're good for is sending telemetry for
somebody's experiment, then I feel this is an inappropriate use of Amateur
frequencies.
73, Jim  KQ6EA

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 1:10 PM
> I hate to say it but you may be right
> - the sky is now full of
> "beep-beep" sats!
>
> David KG4ZLB
>
>
>
> Rocky Jones wrote:
> > The hamsat bands are slowly being converted into
> "cheap" telemetry bands...
> >
> > Robert WB5MZO
> >
> >???
> >? ???
> ????????
> ?????? ???
> ?
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:45:32 -0600
From: James Duffey <jamesduffey@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: James Duffey <jamesduffey@xxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Are all the satellites containing the RS transponders included? It
seems like some or all are missing. - Duffey
--
KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM







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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:45:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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--- On Fri, 25/9/09, John W Lee <k6yk@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I wonder how many of those 50?are able to handle
> ham radio 2-way contacts ?

Granted most of them haven't been able to handle "UR 599 OM QSL via buro"
style contacts, the bulk have "just" been for self-training and technical
investigations.

But there again these "self-training and technical investigation" Amateur
Radio satellites have been launched into very low orbits (< 1000 km) which
means short pass time and short range - next to useless for two-way Amateur
DX contacts.

It is worth noting that Amateurs may well wax lyrical about Oscar 7 or 6 but
they never mention Oscar 8, which had both Mode A and J. Why is this ?
Simply the orbital height, nothing else.

The fundamental problem we need to address is how to get a satellite from a
readily available orbit below 1000 km to one whose apogee is 1400 km or
greater.

73 Trevor M5AKA








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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:51:02 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: "'David M0ZLB'" <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <16751999C80B4646839B80A019286312@xxxxxx>
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At a SmallSat conference I attended on behalf of AMSAT this summer, I was
amused at the casual assumption by a researcher that 50, Five Oh, cubesats
could be launched as part of an upper atmosphere project using ham
frequencies for the downlinks.  (They would have a lifetime of only 3-4
months.)  Jan King, W3GEY/VK4GEY, who does coordination of satellite
frequencies, gently but firmly brought them down to earth a bit.

On the one hand, we get new hams with interests in space communications from
these projects, but on the other we need to prevent the de facto
appropriation of needed frequencies.  A fine line to walk.

Alan
WA4SCA





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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:26:03 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: All Satellites
To: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Trevor,

We somehow must start to get serious about the orbital modification
concepts proposed by David, G0MRF (see his paper from the 2009 AMSAT-UK
Colloquium), that will get a LEO satellite into a MEO orbit.

I believe the concept (ion propulsion or similar) can, as David points
out, over time in orbit, modify a LEO to something more useful. Many
papers given recently by "tiny" propulsion system researchers at
SmallSat and CubeSat conferences make it clear to me that some form of
"samll" propulsion is in our future if we want to move out of LEO.

Come to the AMSAT Symposium and listen to Dan Schultz, N8FGV, give his
presentation - Hall Effect Thrusters for Amsat Satellite Missions, a Report
from the International Electric Propulsion Conference

While it's likely a real stretch for a 1U CubeSat, in a 3U CubeSat with
up to 2U Cubes worth dedicated to ion propulsion, we might have
something practical. While many I talk with say it isn't practical, I
have no doubt it will happen in the not too distant future. I wonder who
will take the lead and be first?

It could sure help solve the problem of not having affordable launch
opportunities to MEO any more.

Regards...Bill - N6GHz

Trevor . wrote:
> --- On Fri, 25/9/09, John W Lee <k6yk@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> I wonder how many of those 50 are able to handle
>> ham radio 2-way contacts ?
>
> Granted most of them haven't been able to handle "UR 599 OM QSL via buro"
style contacts, the bulk have "just" been for self-training and technical
investigations.
>
> But there again these "self-training and technical investigation" Amateur
Radio satellites have been launched into very low orbits (< 1000 km) which
means short pass time and short range - next to useless for two-way Amateur
DX contacts.
>
> It is worth noting that Amateurs may well wax lyrical about Oscar 7 or 6
but they never mention Oscar 8, which had both Mode A and J. Why is this ?
Simply the orbital height, nothing else.
>
> The fundamental problem we need to address is how to get a satellite from
a readily available orbit below 1000 km to one whose apogee is 1400 km or
greater.
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>
>
>
>
>
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