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Today's Topics:
1. SumbandilaSat launch (Graham Shirville)
2. Euro news (David - KG4ZLB)
3. REMINDER (Martha)
4. KB9BIT DM86/87 (Thomas Laskowski)
5. KB9BIT DM86/87 (Thomas Laskowski)
6. Re: ISS and VHF data communications (Luc Leblanc)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:13:46 +0100
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SumbandilaSat launch
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Hi all,
I have just spotted this link for tomorrow's Sumbandilasat Launch - not sure
how well it will work tho!
73
Graham G3VZV
Live coverage of this launch will be on September 15th at
http://www.tv-tsenki.com/livechoose.php
Beginning of this coverage - 14:00 UTC, ending - 17:00 UTC.
Launch time - 15:55:07.4 UTC.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:41:54 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Euro news
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Dutch authorities propose rebanding D-STAR into 70cm satellite band
Information received from the Netherlands this week indicated a growing
threat to frequencies allocated and used by the Amateur Satellite Service.
Worldwide, including the Netherlands, amateur use of frequencies in many
portions of the 70cm band are allocated as secondary users.
The threat arises from proposals to move the output frequency band of
terrestrial D-STAR repeaters from the 439-440 MHz range down to 437-438
MHz.
Dutch regulators have halted amateur D-STAR repeater licensing in that
country because they plan to reallocate 439.500 MHz and upward to the
Differential GPS (DGPS) service.
Despite protest from Dutch amateur radio operators, amateur clubs in the
surrounding countries, and regulators in nearby countries, it seems as
if the Dutch authorities are still planning on this frequency
re-allocation to favor DGPS operation in violation of ITU allocations.
If completed this reallocation of the terrestrial D-STAR repeater
outputs would place them right in the downlink band of the Amateur
Satellite Service. This would have immediate operational impact on
European amateur satellite stations. Longer term it may open the door
for future infringement on satellite operations in other countries.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:03:46 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] REMINDER
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Board of Directors <bod@xxxxx.xxx>,
officers@xxxxx.xxx
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Time is running out ! The cut-off date for hotel reservations for the AMSAT
Symposium is 9/23/09. The Hotel is the Four Points Sheraton BWI Airport.
The phone number is 410-691-9827. The group name is Radio Amateur. Come
help us celebrate our 40th Anniversary!
--
73- Martha
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thomas Laskowski <tmlask@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] KB9BIT DM86/87
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I will plan to make two trips to the DM86/87 grid boundary which is the OK-CO
state line about 6 miles north of my current QTH in DM86. This will depend on
the weather.
I plan to be on:
16 Sept on AO-51 for the 23:57 pass
17 Sept on SO-50 for the 00:47 pass
19 Sept on SO-50 for the 00:05 pass
19 Sept on AO-51 for the 00:17 pass
I am currently still on most passes from DM86 in Kenton, OK. If you work(ed)
me just drop me an email and I'll get a QSL card to you after I return home.
73 - KB9BIT portable DM86 in Oklahoma
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:22:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thomas Laskowski <tmlask@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] KB9BIT DM86/87
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I will plan to make two trips to the DM86/87 grid boundary which is the OK-CO
state line about 6 miles north of my current QTH in DM86. This will depend on
the weather.
I plan to be on:
16 Sept on AO-51 for the 23:57 pass
17 Sept on SO-50 for the 00:47 pass
19 Sept on SO-50 for the 00:05 pass
19 Sept on AO-51 for the 00:17 pass
I am currently still on most passes from DM86 in Kenton, OK. If you work(ed)
me just drop me an email and I'll get a QSL card to you after I return home.
73 - KB9BIT portable DM86 in Oklahoma
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:28:16 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS and VHF data communications
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On 14 Sep 2009 at 0:16, Rocky Jones wrote:
Date sent: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:16:20 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS and VHF data communications
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>
> http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Ship_Tracking_From_The_ISS_999.html
>
> Robert WB5MZO
>
This part is intriguing
"NORAIS is bound for Columbus, the European space laboratory on the
International Space Station.
This winter a specially constructed antennae will be brought to the ISS and
fitted on the outside of Columbus.
>From then on, the testing of NORAIS will start."
As the VHF and UHF antenna where not installed on the columbus module even
after asking for money "ARISS-Europe renews the call for
donations to the IARU and AMSAT societies as well as to their members
individually.A financial account has been opened by AMSAT Belgium.
Donators within the European Union will not have to pay any additional banking
costs (beyond the costs of a national money transfer) if
they use the following international banking number (IBAN) and mention the
international identification code (BIC)"
See: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/03/21/100/?nc=1
I was under the impression that my contribution will give us another
opportunity to have a new space transponder but what i was able to get
is a bit frustrating There will not have any VHF/UHF capabilities but (Qoute-
1) "the intention is to build a wideband transponder, L-band
uplink, S-band downlink. Moreover, digital ATV is also thought of. Anyway,
among many other aspects, equipment volume, weight, power
consumption and heat budget are to be discussed with ESA and EADS". When i
donate to help funding the project i was under the impression my
money will at least give another easy available amateur transponder but it
seems we will ended up with an nearly exclusive ARISS
transponder as the actual cross band repeater and the supposed always
activated SSTV system are never activated.
Sorry for the donators but you will not be able to use your U/V system on the
columbus amateur radio station. What it is even more curious
is we are literally flooded with ARISS contact news and pretty soon with
ARISSAT as the ARISS actual goals seems to be directed towards the
suit-sat II replacement. But what about this remaining columbus L/S
transponder? did anyone got any news about the activation of the
radio/transponder? what i was able to get is dated back in 2007. The funding
never reach the intended target money wise nor project wise
too. I just hope someone in ARISS or in the AMSAT'S will be able to come up
with some fresh news? My greatest fear is this NORAIS will
replace the amateur radio project and they will vever use the actual L/S
amateur patch antenna! I just hope someone will tell me that i'm
wrong here. BUT if you read below an excerpt from the ARISS June 2009 it's not
helping me dissipating my fears (Quote-2)
"VHF-UHF antennas
Mark Severance N5XWF gave an AIS presentation on the co-usage by ESA and ARISS
of VHF antennas for AIS (Automatic Identification System),
the tracking system for ships. STS-129 should be the shuttle mission
associated with the space walk that will take place for the
attachment of the antennas we will co-use. NASA will be responsible for cost
of the spacewalk. ESA will be responsible for the cost of the
installation, for the cost of the clamp to install the antennas, and the cost
for the integration of the clamp."
"Onboard equipment
At this annual meeting, we will discuss which radios to install in the
Columbus module. The VHF Ericsson radio is on board in the Russian
segment. The UHF one, that has never been used, is in the JEM. We have one of
the Kenwood D-700s, also.
We will get a great deal of help from NASA and ESA for the work on the safety
certification and the cost of this, the cost for upmass, and
the expense for an operating location in the Columbus module."
Just for the record STS-129 launch is planned for November 12 2009 and we are
on the 14 of September!!!
What it is the most disturbing is this section of the May 19 ARISS tele
conference meeting (Quote-3) "Low upmass plans are more highly
favored, so re-use of existing on-orbit hardware will be a more favored
approach. Finally, there will be technical discussions on the AIS
and ARISS antennas and their installation on the outside of the Columbus
module. The results of these discussions would be briefed to the
ARISS-I team during the joint ARWG/ARISS-I meeting on Wednesday morning. "
Not a single word on the L/S system or is the money donated will be use to
fund a joint venture with a non amateur radio system?
On the July teleconference we can read (quote-4) "At the meeting the most
important topic was how we work with the space agencies education
office and installation of equipment on Columbus," All discussion where
conducted behind close door?
I just hope someone in the ARISS organization will be able to get my
questioning and that he can give a long overdue update on the Columbus
amateur radio station project
On this 2008 presentation they are telling there is NOW a possibility to have
a VHF/UHF whip?
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/Meetings/2008_Moscow/Presentations/17_moscow2
008Columbus_Project.pdf
And digital ATV to improve the future ARISS session but where the equipment
will be available to decoded amateur DATV signal when doppler
correction will also be mandatory on this type of equipment? It is widely out
of reach for an amateur stand point and we are heading
towards a near commercial type of system more than an amateur one.
We are facing a lot of outdated informations and very few fresh updated ones.
A suggestion could be adding some fresh project news to the
regular ARISS contact news list will help us to sort out a bit the mess.
1-http://www.issfanclub.com/node/6824
http://www.ariss-eu.org/columbus.htm
2-http://www.rac.ca/ariss/ARISS-I 2009 Annual Mtg final edit minutes.doc
3-http://www.rac.ca/ariss/arisstel2009-05-19.htm
4-http://www.rac.ca/ariss/arisstel2009-07-21.htm
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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