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Today's Topics:
1. amsat.org ao-51 broken links (Joseph Armbruster)
2. Re: more amsat.org broken links (racer5039)
3. Re: more amsat.org broken links (Andrew Rich (Home))
4. Re: more amsat.org broken links (Trevor .)
5. broken links (acjohn1@xxxx.xxxx
6. Re: broken links (Andrew Glasbrenner)
7. Re: broken links (Andrew Rich (Home))
8. Re: broken links (Andrew Glasbrenner)
9. Re: broken links (Tim - N3TL)
10. VHF Contest this weekend (Rick - WA4NVM)
11. Re: broken links (David Bate)
12. Re: broken links (Glen Zook)
13. Re: broken links (Andrew Glasbrenner)
14. Re: broken links (Bill Ress)
15. Re: broken links (Joel Black)
16. Re: broken links (Joel Black)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 15:04:27 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] amsat.org ao-51 broken links
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I was browsing the AO-51 page just now on amsat.org and noticed a few broken
links. Here is the list. I listed the main URL and then the links that
were broken on that page.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/
http://bach.as.arizona.edu/gallery/v/chuck/echo - page not found
http://home.centurytel.net/ke4aznsatellite/ - no content at this page
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/integration.php
http://web.infoave.net/~mkmk518/echo_integration.htm - page not found
Joe
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:50:45 -0500
From: "racer5039" <racer5039@x.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: more amsat.org broken links
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Joseph Armbruster"
<josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
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http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/9600tnc.php large number of links on
this page do not work
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/EchoHT.php
http://xe1mex.gq.nu/antenas/yagi.html - page not found
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Armbruster" <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:04 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] amsat.org ao-51 broken links
>I was browsing the AO-51 page just now on amsat.org and noticed a few
>broken
> links. Here is the list. I listed the main URL and then the links that
> were broken on that page.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/
> http://bach.as.arizona.edu/gallery/v/chuck/echo - page not found
> http://home.centurytel.net/ke4aznsatellite/ - no content at this page
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/integration.php
> http://web.infoave.net/~mkmk518/echo_integration.htm - page not found
>
> Joe
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 07:08:26 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich \(Home\)" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: more amsat.org broken links
To: "racer5039" <racer5039@x.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Joseph
Armbruster" <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
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There is heaps
Actually the satellite section of amatuer radi o is the worst
For a system that requires up to date information i have seen the oldest
data
amsat pages from 2002 and 2004
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Andrew Rich
Airways Technical Officer Grade 4
Surveillance - RADAR ADS-B
Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC
email: vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
web: www.tech-software.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "racer5039" <racer5039@x.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "Joseph Armbruster" <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:50 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: more amsat.org broken links
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/9600tnc.php large number of links on
> this page do not work
>
>
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/EchoHT.php
> http://xe1mex.gq.nu/antenas/yagi.html - page not found
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Armbruster" <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:04 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] amsat.org ao-51 broken links
>
>
>>I was browsing the AO-51 page just now on amsat.org and noticed a few
>>broken
>> links. Here is the list. I listed the main URL and then the links that
>> were broken on that page.
>>
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/
>> http://bach.as.arizona.edu/gallery/v/chuck/echo - page not found
>> http://home.centurytel.net/ke4aznsatellite/ - no content at this page
>>
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/integration.php
>> http://web.infoave.net/~mkmk518/echo_integration.htm - page not found
>>
>> Joe
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: more amsat.org broken links
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Broken links are a problem with most websites.
I guess in this case it's an indication that AMSAT-NA hasn't been overwhelmed
with volunteers willing to give up many hours each and every week to maintain
the site. Clearly an opportunity there for somebody.
Fortunately the good news is that most of these links can be resolved by using
http://www.archive.org/
If you go to archive.org and type in a broken link such as
http://www..timewave.com/dsp2232.html
You will get a selection of many copies of that page taken between 1997 and
2006
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:26:18 GMT
From: "acjohn1@xxxx.xxxx <acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] broken links
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090908.172618.5245.1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx>
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When you first start thinking about playing with the satallites there isn't
that much information on the web. Most links are broken or refer to satellites
that are long silent. Step back and look at the hobby from someone looking to
get into it. You are not going to get home brewers if all the plans use parts
no longer made and you are not going to get new satellite people if all of the
info is for dead birds.
73
John
KG4VHV
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:33:08 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
To: <acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <36C005AB3E7447DB984155FD2621FF2D@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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So who among you would like to volunteer to rewrite some of the articles and
bring them up to date?
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: <acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:26 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] broken links
> When you first start thinking about playing with the satallites there
> isn't that much information on the web. Most links are broken or refer to
> satellites that are long silent. Step back and look at the hobby from
> someone looking to get into it. You are not going to get home brewers if
> all the plans use parts no longer made and you are not going to get new
> satellite people if all of the info is for dead birds.
> 73
>
>
> John
> KG4VHV
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> Lose up to 20 lbs in one month with a new diet. Click here.
>
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HnyFam7nrvGynYevwZHdNliuM/
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 07:37:13 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich \(Home\)" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
To: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <F5D694B7E01047BCB837AA11589A1E0C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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The smart thing to do would be have a content manager software suite that
ages pages and flags them
The smart thing to do would be have a system of reporting old pages.
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Andrew Rich
Airways Technical Officer Grade 4
Surveillance - RADAR ADS-B
Amateur Radio Callsign VK4TEC
email: vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
web: www.tech-software.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 7:33 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
> So who among you would like to volunteer to rewrite some of the articles
> and
> bring them up to date?
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:26 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] broken links
>
>
>> When you first start thinking about playing with the satallites there
>> isn't that much information on the web. Most links are broken or refer to
>> satellites that are long silent. Step back and look at the hobby from
>> someone looking to get into it. You are not going to get home brewers if
>> all the plans use parts no longer made and you are not going to get new
>> satellite people if all of the info is for dead birds.
>> 73
>>
>>
>> John
>> KG4VHV
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Lose up to 20 lbs in one month with a new diet. Click here.
>>
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYbqNUytsnOVAfolnUsFf0P2g7
HnyFam7nrvGynYevwZHdNliuM/
>>
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>> program!
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:39:09 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
To: "Andrew Rich \(Home\)" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <90D36363CB3E4C69A7AC888EC56D6135@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> The smart thing to do would be have a content manager software suite that
> ages pages and flags them
>
> The smart thing to do would be have a system of reporting old pages.
Are you volunteering?
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:39:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
To: "acjohn1@xxxx.xxxx <acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <644000.87424.qm@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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John and all,
No disrespect intended to anyone - but I found myself exactly in the place you
described in June of last year. The AMSAT Web site helped me way more than it
hindered me. I dare say anyone who knows how to use Google or any search
engine will find many sources of (likely) way more information than he or she
will ever need to start working the satellites.
None of this is to suggest that so many bad/out-of-date links is a good thing.
I second Drew's response - who would like to step up and volunteer to help
improve the organization and its Web site?
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
________________________________
From: "acjohn1@xxxx.xxxx <acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 5:26:18 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] broken links
When you first start thinking about playing with the satallites there isn't
that much information on the web. Most links are broken or refer to satellites
that are long silent. Step back and look at the hobby from someone looking to
get into it. You are not going to get home brewers if all the plans use parts
no longer made and you are not going to get new satellite people if all of the
info is for dead birds.
73
John
KG4VHV
____________________________________________________________
Lose up to 20 lbs in one month with a new diet. Click here.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYbqNUytsnOVAfolnUsFf0P2g7
HnyFam7nrvGynYevwZHdNliuM/
_______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:19:27 -0500
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] VHF Contest this weekend
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <A4ACF84E28BA4071A93AB328B2921BF0@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi All,
I will be traveling to EM35, Mt Nebo, AR on Thursday for the Sept. VHF
contest.
I will operate using our contest call NE5BO starting with the A0-27 pass at
2005 utc
Thursday until Monday morning, Sept. 14. I will be on the FM birds only.
Also, I may
make a road trip or two to some surrounding grids during the weekend.
Also, anyone with 6 meters and above, get on the air this weekend and stir up
the bands.
Thanks and 73 to all,
Rick - WA4NVM
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:27:30 -0400
From: "David Bate" <cfpm_cfsis@xxxxxxxx.xxxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
To: "List - AMSAT" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <op.uzylz4ghmwmutg@xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed;
delsp=yes
How about setting up a wiki style setup and have everyone contribute
updates and so on. So no one person is tied down doing all the updates.
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:39:48 -0400, Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> John and all,
>
> No disrespect intended to anyone - but I found myself exactly in the
> place you described in June of last year. The AMSAT Web site helped me
> way more than it hindered me. I dare say anyone who knows how to use
> Google or any search engine will find many sources of (likely) way more
> information than he or she will ever need to start working the
> satellites.
>
> None of this is to suggest that so many bad/out-of-date links is a good
> thing. I second Drew's response - who would like to step up and
> volunteer to help improve the organization and its Web site?
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Tim - N3TL
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Heritage & North Shore Amateur Radio Club Member
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 15:52:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Glen Zook <gzook@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
To: acjohn1@xxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <314966.89833.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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The problem is that the volunteer function on the website hasn't been working
for some time.
I tried several times to volunteer in areas that I have expertise and the
system would not take the information. Finally, I gave up.
Glen, K9STH
AMSAT 239/LM 463
Website: http://k9sth.com
--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
So who among you would like to volunteer to rewrite some of the articles and
bring them up to date?
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:09:13 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
To: "Glen Zook" <gzook@xxxxx.xxx>, <acjohn1@xxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <7C0E3E5BA8D44ECDB96C0D33ACE886AA@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> The problem is that the volunteer function on the website hasn't been
> working for some time.
>
> I tried several times to volunteer in areas that I have expertise and the
> system would not take the information. Finally, I gave up.
>
> Glen, K9STH
> AMSAT 239/LM 463
>
Don't let a broken link stop you. The ad in the Journal, and in several ANS
bulletins, asks prospective volunteers to email Gould, WA4SXM at
wa4sxm@xxxxx.xxx.
I agree that whole busted survey needs to be removed until fixed.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:12:23 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
To: David Bate <cfpm_cfsis@xxxxxxxx.xxxx>
Cc: List - AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4AA6E4D7.806@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi David.....Good suggestion but the same old problem. Whose going to do
it???
Your Board knows the web site needs fixing . . . but whose going to
volunteer to do the fixing. It was set up by volunteers who are no
longer around to fix it.
We sure hear about the problems, and the web site has its share. All
these great solutions but no one willing to part of those solutions. But
then, it's so much easier to point out the problems than it is to try
and fix then.
Now I understand it can be hard to find technical talent to volunteer to
build a satellite but you would think it would be a whole lot easier to
find a volunteer(s) that can handle web site management. But alas...it
is not to be.
Oh well, lets keep hitting the Board up side the head, like that will
surely solve the problem.
Any of this sinking in out there? You can bitch about the broken web
site all you want but until we get a volunteer(s) to do the bloody
work... well you know the story.
Here's a crazy idea. How about you folks putting a "team" together to
share the work so that one person isn't overwhelmed with a commitment to
fix the problem. Aah - who am I kidding. They'll be no response to that
either.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
David Bate wrote:
> How about setting up a wiki style setup and have everyone contribute
> updates and so on. So no one person is tied down doing all the updates.
>
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:39:48 -0400, Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
>> John and all,
>>
>> No disrespect intended to anyone - but I found myself exactly in the
>> place you described in June of last year. The AMSAT Web site helped me
>> way more than it hindered me. I dare say anyone who knows how to use
>> Google or any search engine will find many sources of (likely) way
more
>> information than he or she will ever need to start working the
>> satellites.
>>
>> None of this is to suggest that so many bad/out-of-date links is a
good
>> thing. I second Drew's response - who would like to step up and
>> volunteer to help improve the organization and its Web site?
>>
>> 73 to all,
>>
>> Tim - N3TL
>
David Bate wrote:
> How about setting up a wiki style setup and have everyone contribute
> updates and so on. So no one person is tied down doing all the updates.
>
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:39:48 -0400, Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> John and all,
>>
>> No disrespect intended to anyone - but I found myself exactly in the
>> place you described in June of last year. The AMSAT Web site helped me
>> way more than it hindered me. I dare say anyone who knows how to use
>> Google or any search engine will find many sources of (likely) way more
>> information than he or she will ever need to start working the
>> satellites.
>>
>> None of this is to suggest that so many bad/out-of-date links is a good
>> thing. I second Drew's response - who would like to step up and
>> volunteer to help improve the organization and its Web site?
>>
>> 73 to all,
>>
>> Tim - N3TL
>
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:12:35 -0500
From: Joel Black <jbblack68@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<73583d7a0909081612y3d8a926ev149cc142ef91e33c@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I first started in amateur satellites back in the late '90's (I am just now
getting my station back in working order after a long hiatus). You should
have seen the webpage then. Today's is leaps and bounds ahead of the old
one. As a matter-of-fact, I think you can peruse the old webpage here:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/AmsatHomeOld.html.
I got lots more information from the BB and from ANS. I would look at the
ANS and figure out what birds I wanted to work, then I would go to the BB
and ask questions. I also found that I learned a lot more if I just
investigated for myself on a lot of stuff. I read articles in QST and the
AMSAT Journal. Wow, there is still a plethora of information available.
You can even go to the archived BB articles on the old webpage (maybe the
new one too, I didn't dig that deeply).
I would be more than happy to Elmer someone in the West Alabama area or even
via email, but I'm afraid I may have as many questions as the person I'm
Elmering. When I got started there was a guy here who was willing to Elmer
me, but I wanted to "do it myself." Granted, not everyone wants to "do it
myself."
Someone mentioned starting an AMSAT wiki. I think that would be a great
idea, but I am not sure how to go about starting something like that.
However, I'd be willing to contribute to something like that.
Short version, information is still out there, you just have to be willing
to dig through the gorilla dust to get to it.
73,
Joel, W4JBB
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Glen Zook <gzook@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The problem is that the volunteer function on the website hasn't been
> working for some time.
>
> I tried several times to volunteer in areas that I have expertise and the
> system would not take the information. Finally, I gave up.
>
> Glen, K9STH
> AMSAT 239/LM 463
>
> Website: http://k9sth.com
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> So who among you would like to volunteer to rewrite some of the articles
> and bring them up to date?
>
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:23:01 -0500
From: Joel Black <jbblack68@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: broken links
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Another two sites I really like reading on a daily basis are
www.slashdot.org and www.lifehacker.com. What do y'all think.
I agree with Bill, it should be a community effort in case folks get burned
out or become unavailable.
73,
Joel/W4JBB
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi David.....Good suggestion but the same old problem. Whose going to do
> it???
>
> Your Board knows the web site needs fixing . . . but whose going to
> volunteer to do the fixing. It was set up by volunteers who are no
> longer around to fix it.
>
> We sure hear about the problems, and the web site has its share. All
> these great solutions but no one willing to part of those solutions. But
> then, it's so much easier to point out the problems than it is to try
> and fix then.
>
> Now I understand it can be hard to find technical talent to volunteer to
> build a satellite but you would think it would be a whole lot easier to
> find a volunteer(s) that can handle web site management. But alas...it
> is not to be.
>
> Oh well, lets keep hitting the Board up side the head, like that will
> surely solve the problem.
>
> Any of this sinking in out there? You can bitch about the broken web
> site all you want but until we get a volunteer(s) to do the bloody
> work... well you know the story.
>
> Here's a crazy idea. How about you folks putting a "team" together to
> share the work so that one person isn't overwhelmed with a commitment to
> fix the problem. Aah - who am I kidding. They'll be no response to that
> either.
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
> David Bate wrote:
> > How about setting up a wiki style setup and have everyone contribute
> > updates and so on. So no one person is tied down doing all the updates.
> >
> > On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:39:48 -0400, Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >> John and all,
> >>
> >> No disrespect intended to anyone - but I found myself exactly in the
> >> place you described in June of last year. The AMSAT Web site helped me
> >> way more than it hindered me. I dare say anyone who knows how to use
> >> Google or any search engine will find many sources of (likely) way
> more
> >> information than he or she will ever need to start working the
> >> satellites.
> >>
> >> None of this is to suggest that so many bad/out-of-date links is a
> good
> >> thing. I second Drew's response - who would like to step up and
> >> volunteer to help improve the organization and its Web site?
> >>
> >> 73 to all,
> >>
> >> Tim - N3TL
> >
>
>
> David Bate wrote:
> > How about setting up a wiki style setup and have everyone contribute
> > updates and so on. So no one person is tied down doing all the updates.
> >
> > On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:39:48 -0400, Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >> John and all,
> >>
> >> No disrespect intended to anyone - but I found myself exactly in the
> >> place you described in June of last year. The AMSAT Web site helped me
> >> way more than it hindered me. I dare say anyone who knows how to use
> >> Google or any search engine will find many sources of (likely) way more
> >> information than he or she will ever need to start working the
> >> satellites.
> >>
> >> None of this is to suggest that so many bad/out-of-date links is a good
> >> thing. I second Drew's response - who would like to step up and
> >> volunteer to help improve the organization and its Web site?
> >>
> >> 73 to all,
> >>
> >> Tim - N3TL
> >
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