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Today's Topics:
1. VO52 (Dale Hershberger)
2. Re: VO52 (John Geiger)
3. Symposium---hotel reservation tip o' the day (Mark L. Hammond)
4. Re: VO52 (Glenn AA5PK)
5. W6ZQ on AO-51 from BL02 tonight, BL01 Friday night
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
6. Re: AMSAT Symposium Breaking News: Low Cost Airfares
(Roger Kolakowski)
7. Re: VO52 (i8cvs)
8. Re: VO52 (D. Craig Fox)
9. Re: W6ZQ on AO-51 from BL02 tonight, BL01 Friday night
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
10. Re: Trolls on the -bb (Luc Leblanc)
11. Re: AMSAT Symposium Breaking News: Low Cost Airfares
(Steve Meuse)
12. Re: W6ZQ on AO-51 from BL02 tonight, BL01 Friday night
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
13. WD9EWK from DM31, Saturday (5 September) afternoon/evening
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
14. Re: AMSAT Symposium Breaking News: Low Cost Airfares (Jim Heck)
15. Re: Trolls on the -bb (John B. Stephensen)
16. AMSAT-UK Colloquium - 2010 31 July - 1 Aug 2010 (Jim Heck)
17. Re: Trolls on the -bb (i8cvs)
18. I: Re: Trolls on the -bb (Francesco Grappi)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:46:22 -0700
From: Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] VO52
To: amsat bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A9EBD7E.5060102@xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I was on VO 52 on the last pass. Excellent downlink signal. This is
another satellite that is under utilized. I heard my downlink great.
To bad I was the only one on.
Dale - KL7XJ
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:20:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO52
To: amsat bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Dale Hershberger
<daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <221868.13872.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Dale,
I will agree with you on this. VO52 has the best downlink at my QTH. Wish
there was more activity on it also.
73s John AA5JG
--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] VO52
> To: "amsat bbs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 1:46 PM
> I was on VO 52 on the last
> pass.? Excellent downlink signal.? This is
> another satellite that is under utilized.? I heard my
> downlink great.
> To bad I was the only one on.
>
> Dale - KL7XJ
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:47:22 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Symposium---hotel reservation tip o' the day
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<5d8cecfe0909021347w47d8ab70lba0af3ba94292d54@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello All,
I called today and made a hotel reservation for the Symposium.
Here's a friendly tip/reminder:
Let the operator know that you're with the Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation--she didn't have AMSAT listed anywhere :)
A link to the hotel website with 800 phone number is here:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/symposium/2009/Hotel.php
73,
--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:24:01 -0500
From: Glenn AA5PK <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO52
To: Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>, amsat bbs
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <20090902172401.82KD1.139856.root@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I, too, agree VO-52 is underutilized, Dale. I'm usually in there calling CQ
and scanning the downlink.
Happy to have just worked you on AO-27 a minute before my LOS.
73
Glenn AA5PK
---- Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I was on VO 52 on the last pass. Excellent downlink signal. This is
> another satellite that is under utilized. I heard my downlink great.
> To bad I was the only one on.
>
> Dale - KL7XJ
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:34:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] W6ZQ on AO-51 from BL02 tonight, BL01 Friday
night
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <142393.44389.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi!
Ron W6ZQ phoned me a little while ago, and mentioned he would
be on a couple of AO-51 passes that cover the western US over
the next couple of days.
Later today, Ron plans to be on the AO-51 pass at approximately
0230 UTC from grid BL02 on Kauai. He only has 4 degrees maximum
elevation, so he will only have a few minutes during this pass
to work with. On Friday evening (early Saturday UTC), he will
move south and be in BL01 around 0246 UTC. The Friday evening
pass is better for him than tonight's pass, but may not be as
good for those of us on the US mainland.
Good luck and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:39:47 -0400
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Symposium Breaking News: Low Cost
Airfares
To: "Frank H. Bauer" <ka3hdo@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <00cd01ca2c20$01981480$0300a8c0@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>From this morning's email:
On Sale Today Only...
$19 one way from Boston to Baltimore on JetBlue...
Travel before sometime in November
Check JetBlue's site...
I don't own, desire to own, have any interest in or make any money off
JetBlue...I'm just cheap...
Roger
WA1KAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank H. Bauer" <ka3hdo@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Symposium Breaking News: Low Cost Airfares
> All,
>
> The 2009 AMSAT Symposium is rapidly approaching! And we hope you can join
> us..especially given that there are some low-cost airfares out there for
> those of us in the US.
>
> We have an outstanding venue this year at the Four Points Sheraton at the
> BWI Airport. Your symposium committee recently did a walkthrough of this
> facility. The accommodations and meeting rooms are superb. I do a lot of
> traveling and I must say that the rooms are absolutely beautiful. You
will
> definitely get a substantial bang for your buck (or Euro, etc) at this
> symposium. And planned 40th Anniversary celebratory events will be truly
> memorable.
>
> And to make things even better, Southwest Airlines has a phenomenal
> Nationwide (US) fall sale. $59-109 one-way airfares are available to BWI
> until Sept 3. And remember, with Southwest, there are no baggage fees.
>
> So we'd love to see you in "Charm City"-Baltimore Maryland..for the
> symposium presentations, 40th anniversary celebrations, poster sessions,
and
> BoD meeting.
>
> And don't forget to submit a symposium paper to Dan Schultz, N8FGV, ASAP!!
>
> Frank Bauer, KA3HDO, and Janet Bauer
> 2009 Symposium Co-Chairs
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 02:17:39 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO52
To: "Glenn AA5PK" <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Dale Hershberger"
<daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>, "amsat bbs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001701ca2c2b$f2e83300$0201a8c0@xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi All,
VO-52 is widely used in Europe with a lot of CW and SSB stations in any
orbit.
VO-52 seems to be here the preferred satellite along with FO-29 when she was
alive.
OSCAR-7 is also widely used in mode-A and mode-B
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn AA5PK" <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Dale Hershberger" <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>; "amsat bbs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:24 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO52
> I, too, agree VO-52 is underutilized, Dale. I'm usually in there calling
CQ and scanning the downlink.
>
> Happy to have just worked you on AO-27 a minute before my LOS.
>
> 73
> Glenn AA5PK
>
> ---- Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > I was on VO 52 on the last pass. Excellent downlink signal. This is
> > another satellite that is under utilized. I heard my downlink great.
> > To bad I was the only one on.
> >
> > Dale - KL7XJ
> > _______________________________________________
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program!
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:24:18 -0700
From: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO52
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<A8E6E57AFA652D419A823F42AD6ACBDE02EB9CBF@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello fellow V052 fans! Dale I think you must go to bed early as I am on at
least one pass most nights (ok, usually late) that lights us both up and n'er
a peep from the north! LOL Geez this sat lights up Siberia, northern Canada,
central America, at times most all of the US, and the lack of operators is
astounding.
Anyway, yes, by all means- anyone who has not at least listened to the
strength of the VO52 downlink should do so. It is very strong and
consistently good to the horizon. And, I guess going to the point of this
thread- largely unused. But with such a wide passband, there is loads of room
for many stations so no "2 meter repeater" or DX pileup characteristics.
Just my 2 cents
73s
Craig
N6RSX
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxx
Behalf Of John Geiger
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 1:20 PM
To: amsat bbs; Dale Hershberger
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO52
Dale,
I will agree with you on this. VO52 has the best downlink at my QTH. Wish
there was more activity on it also.
73s John AA5JG
--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] VO52
> To: "amsat bbs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 1:46 PM
> I was on VO 52 on the last
> pass. Excellent downlink signal. This is
> another satellite that is under utilized. I heard my
> downlink great.
> To bad I was the only one on.
>
> Dale - KL7XJ
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:01:02 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W6ZQ on AO-51 from BL02 tonight, BL01 Friday
night
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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Hi Bob!
> Patrick-I assume that is mode?V/U not the current L/U which I have been
> kplaying with.
Correct. Ron will only be on the V/U side of AO-51 tonight and Friday
night, not on the L/U side. Sorry for not mentioning that originally.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:42:23 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A9DA34F.14895.143E646@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
The AMSAT issues are all in the text?
On 1 Sep 2009 at 17:45, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> I've about had it with the trolling and the bickering and
> the internet commandos cruising for reactions. They've caused it to cease
> being fun or even interesting to participate in this email list.
Voicing an opinion is really " cruising for reactions" I think not or theses
opinions are probably exposing something who should not be
disclose fearing the membership/sponsored reactions?
>
> rather than
> analyze telemetry, plan schedules, maintain webpages, solder circuit boards,
> mail ballots, test batteries, process renewals, inquire about new
> opportunities, mentor a beginner or a cubesat project, write an article,
> schedule an ARISS QSO, etc?
I don't remember having read anything about criticisms on the work done but on
what some are thinking the next moves and orientation should
be. I think it is more a second guessing problem than anything else.
Stage coach are always watching in your back just beware...
> I know AMSAT has had it's issues over it's long history, and we are all
> disappointed that HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now. We are all
> human and we all make mistakes, especially when it involves rocket engines,
> building spacecraft on hobby store budgets, and getting all past our
> benefactor launch agency trials and schedules.
If "HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now" what we should do next? no
more false illusions about geo sat's and so on just get back
on earth and focused on how to help P3E and our German friend.
> We have also learned from
> our mistakes,
Is it not natural to try to remember our past mistakes to avoid them in
future?
> it is time to move ahead. Our officers and our BOD is
> almost entirely different from just 5 years ago.
Is this will carry any new ideas even if the names are changing? I think not
as the closed AMSAT-NA BOD circle is still hovering above.
>
> If a member has a problem with or suggestion for how a volunteer is doing
> their job, contact them through the website
>
Some are trying but they don't succeed AMSAT-NA is not like your local ham
club where you can see your partners each week end. It was a
time where this "club" spirit was there and it give's AO-40 and Echo.
Aside of a HEO sat what's remain next? Cubes? and Arisat a 6 scrabble point
word! and ISS? yes we all know there is a cross band repeater
up there resting on the wall !!
Is it possible to let the paying members operating the sat's without always
feeling bad because they are not member of the president club
or as they don' t donate much or just they are unable or not interested to be
a volunteer?
When you are watching a movie even if all the attendance want's to help all at
the same time the guy who play with the film reel there will
not be enough room to let all of them go in.
If the pressure is too high it is probably an indication of a communication
problem?, Not listening or just standing by our ideas will just
increased the complaining factor.
P.S. Success and achievement are the criticisms antidote and a perverse man
stirs up dissension, and a gossip separates close friends
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:05:03 -0400
From: Steve Meuse <smeuse@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Symposium Breaking News: Low Cost
Airfares
To: Roger Kolakowski <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090903020503.GA2434@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Roger Kolakowski expunged (rogerkola@xxx.xxxxx
> >From this morning's email:
>
> On Sale Today Only...
>
> $19 one way from Boston to Baltimore on JetBlue...
I just looked, seems like you needed to travel on Wednesday to make that work.
PVD to BWI was the cheapest I could find in the regional airports here in MA.
I'm flying in Friday morning, hoping to spend the day at the Electronics and
Crypto museums. This will be my first Symposium, I typically have another
meeting that week, but it didn't conflict this year.
-Steve
N1JFU - http://n1jfu.blogspot.com - smeuse@xxxxxxx
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:03:54 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W6ZQ on AO-51 from BL02 tonight, BL01 Friday
night
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<2e18ad3e0909022203w41420da3r4f0e5cc37c319c08@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi Bob!
> got him!
Yes, you did! Nice to hear you cross over from L/U to V/U to pick
up that contact.
I heard Ron work you and me, along with 7 others on that pass.
I heard one other station that called but Ron didn't pick up, but
that station only made one call in the pass. I'm looking forward
to Friday evening, which will be a better pass out on Kauai
compared to tonight's pass. Not so good for me (4 degrees
max. elevation on that western pass from here in Phoenix), but
I'll try it.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:58:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK from DM31, Saturday (5 September)
afternoon/evening
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <101950.5541.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi!
After watching the weather reports for the past few days, it
appears that Hurricane Jimena - or its remnants - will make
a western turn out to the Pacific instead of continuing on its
northern march toward Arizona. With this in mind, and the
fact that the upcoming weekend is a holiday weekend here in the
US, I'm going to make a road trip to grid DM31 in southern
Arizona for Saturday (5 September) afternoon and evening. This
is the only grid that covers Arizona that I have yet to operate
from via satellite.
If I have to go to the office in the morning, I should still be
on the AO-51 passes in the late afternoon and early evening passes
to the east and west. If I don't have to work, I'll be on for
AO-27 passes earlier in the afternoon. If I can leave Phoenix
early enough, there are SO-50 passes in the late morning and around
midday I could work from there. As I do with my other road trips
and hamfest demonstrations from various parts of Arizona, I can get
on VO-52 if I am in a good stopping place during those late-morning
passes. I will not stick around for the VO-52 passes in the
evening, as that area is not a friendly place to be after dark.
John K8YSE was out here last fall, putting this grid into the logs
of many satellite operators (including my log - thanks!). For those
who missed him then, here's another chance to get this rare grid
logged. Most of the grid stretches into northern Mexico, with the
Arizona portion covering parts of Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument
(where I will operate from, a few miles/km north of the USA/Mexico
border) and a wildlife refuge. This does not leave many choices for
stopping and operate from down there. I'll stay on the Arizona side
of the border fence, and hope to work as many as I can for those
passes.
As with many of my trips, anyone working WD9EWK from DM31 who is
interested in a QSL card only needs to e-mail me with the details
of the QSO(s) made with me. If you're in the log, I will send you
a card - even if you are in Canada, Mexico, or somewhere else that
falls in any of those footprints.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:51:07 +0100
From: "Jim Heck" <jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Symposium Breaking News: Low Cost
Airfares
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <OLECJJCJBEHDCCHICKFFEEPHGGAA.jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Folks,
I will be booking my transatlantic flight over the next couple of days, and
have a
few questions. I wonder if anyone could help me?
1. Whats the best (easiest/cheapest) way to get from Washington Dulles airport
to
Baltimore?
2. Is there an airline that flies direct from Baltimore to Portland MA (I will
be
visiting firnds after the Symposium)
3. How far/whats the best way to get from the hotel to the Crypto museum?
My email to the hotel bounced, and their web page about local transportation
isnt
very helpful - not that I'm complaining - oh, maybe I can, the hotel isnt a
volunteer, I guess ;-)
73s
Jim G3WGM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxx
> Behalf Of Steve Meuse
> Sent: 03 September 2009 03:05
> To: Roger Kolakowski
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Symposium Breaking News: Low Cost Airfares
>
>
> Roger Kolakowski expunged (rogerkola@xxx.xxxxx
>
> > >From this morning's email:
> >
> > On Sale Today Only...
> >
> > $19 one way from Boston to Baltimore on JetBlue...
>
> I just looked, seems like you needed to travel on Wednesday to make that
> work. PVD to BWI was the cheapest I could find in the regional airports
> here in MA.
>
> I'm flying in Friday morning, hoping to spend the day at the Electronics
> and Crypto museums. This will be my first Symposium, I typically have
> another meeting that week, but it didn't conflict this year.
>
>
> -Steve
>
> N1JFU - http://n1jfu.blogspot.com - smeuse@xxxxxxx
>
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:12:10 -0000
From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <C47042A47C014E179446ACCE5A69EE94@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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reply-type=original
P3E is a HEO with the same engine as P3D and no benefactor funding a launch.
It seems more reasonable to focus on projects that we can pay to launch or
where someone has already donated the launch.
73,
John
KD6OZH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 02:42 UTC
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
>> I know AMSAT has had it's issues over it's long history, and we are all
>> disappointed that HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now. We are
>> all
>> human and we all make mistakes, especially when it involves rocket
>> engines,
>> building spacecraft on hobby store budgets, and getting all past our
>> benefactor launch agency trials and schedules.
>
> If "HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now" what we should do
> next? no more false illusions about geo sat's and so on just get back
> on earth and focused on how to help P3E and our German friend.
------------------------------
Message: 16
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:21:31 +0100
From: "Jim Heck" <jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium - 2010 31 July - 1 Aug 2010
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Folks,
This is just to let you know well in advance the dates of the 2010 AMSAT-UK
Colloquium.
It will be held over the weekend 30 Jul - 1 Aug 2010. The location will be
the
same as in 2009, ie the Holiday Inn, Guildford, Surrey, United Kingdom. (quite
close
to the University of Surrey)
In 2009 there were a significant number of delegates arriving early on
Friday, so
we are planning to have some form of activity then (even if just social!),
also
probably in the early evening a 'beginners session'. Details to follow.
Meanwhile, please put the dates in your diaries!
73 Jim G3WGM
Hon Sec AMSAT-UK
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:51:35 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
To: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "Luc Leblanc"
<lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000701ca2c7c$1fed6960$0201a8c0@xxx.xx>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
> P3E is a HEO with the same engine as P3D and no benefactor funding a
launch.
Hi John, KD6OZH
P3E is the only HEO with the possibility to be launched because her will
carry on several experiments related to the Mars probe P5A under
development in AMSAT-DL
P3E is already made and it is standing in the labs of the University of
Marburg Germany and is waiting for a launch opportunity while P5E is still
under development.
> It seems more reasonable to focus on projects that we can pay to launch
All joined AMSAT togheter in the world has not the financial capability to
pay for a HEO launch and this matter has been already discussed several
time on this BB
> or where someone has already donated the launch.
Nobody has donated a launch for free or about for free on HEO except ESA for
OSCAR-10 OSCAR-13 and AO40 upon political strategy conducted mostly by
AMSAT-DL and this is why we must pull for P3E.......I agree completely with
Luc, VE2DWE
Actually the rest of HEO's are only on brains, on desk and on papers.
> 73,
>
> John
> KD6OZH
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 02:42 UTC
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
> >> I know AMSAT has had it's issues over it's long history, and we are all
> >> disappointed that HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now. We
are
> >> all
> >> human and we all make mistakes, especially when it involves rocket
> >> engines,
> >> building spacecraft on hobby store budgets, and getting all past our
> >> benefactor launch agency trials and schedules.
> >
> > If "HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now" what we should do
> > next? no more false illusions about geo sat's and so on just get back
> > on earth and focused on how to help P3E and our German friend.
>
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:02:41 +0200
From: "Francesco Grappi" <f.grappi@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] I: Re: Trolls on the -bb
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000301ca2c7d$ad2333e0$07699ba0$@xxxxxx@xxx.xx>
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....Yes Domenico, I8CVS
unfortunately you are right......snip....sigh...
...but hope must never die...
73"
Frank IW4DVZ
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Per
> conto di i8cvs
> Inviato: gioved? 3 settembre 2009 11.52
> A: John B. Stephensen; Luc Leblanc; AMSAT-BB
> Oggetto: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:12 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
>
> > P3E is a HEO with the same engine as P3D and no benefactor funding a
> launch.
>
> Hi John, KD6OZH
>
> P3E is the only HEO with the possibility to be launched because her
> will
> carry on several experiments related to the Mars probe P5A under
> development in AMSAT-DL
> P3E is already made and it is standing in the labs of the University of
> Marburg Germany and is waiting for a launch opportunity while P5E is
> still
> under development.
>
> > It seems more reasonable to focus on projects that we can pay to
> launch
>
> All joined AMSAT togheter in the world has not the financial capability
> to
> pay for a HEO launch and this matter has been already discussed several
> time on this BB
>
> > or where someone has already donated the launch.
>
> Nobody has donated a launch for free or about for free on HEO except
> ESA for
> OSCAR-10 OSCAR-13 and AO40 upon political strategy conducted mostly by
> AMSAT-DL and this is why we must pull for P3E.......I agree completely
> with
> Luc, VE2DWE
>
> Actually the rest of HEO's are only on brains, on desk and on papers.
>
> > 73,
> >
> > John
> > KD6OZH
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
> > To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 02:42 UTC
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
> > >> I know AMSAT has had it's issues over it's long history, and we
> are all
> > >> disappointed that HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now.
> We
> are
> > >> all
> > >> human and we all make mistakes, especially when it involves rocket
> > >> engines,
> > >> building spacecraft on hobby store budgets, and getting all past
> our
> > >> benefactor launch agency trials and schedules.
> > >
> > > If "HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now" what we should
> do
> > > next? no more false illusions about geo sat's and so on just get
> back
> > > on earth and focused on how to help P3E and our German friend.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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>
>
>
>
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