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Today's Topics:
1. FO-29 (WILLIAMS MICHAEL)
2. GJTRACKER Version 2.0 Now Available (Lance Collister)
3. Re: 10 GHz and 24 GHz systems? (i8cvs)
4. Re: BoD Elections (Rocky Jones)
5. FO-29 status 29Aug2009 #1 (Mineo Wakita)
6. Re: BoD Elections (w8iss)
7. Re: BoD Elections (Bruce)
8. Re: BoD Elections (JoAnne Maenpaa)
9. Re: BoD Elections (Bill Ress)
10. Fw: Re: BoD Elections (Gould Smith)
11. Re: BoD Elections (Dale Hershberger)
12. Re: BoD Elections (Dee)
13. Re: BoD Elections (rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxxx
14. Re: BoD Elections (Barry A. Baines)
15. Re: BoD Elections (Steve Meuse)
16. Re: BoD Elections (Timothy J. Salo)
17. STS-128 photos from East Orlando (n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:02:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: WILLIAMS MICHAEL <k9qho6762@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <912736.63583.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Signals from FO-29 have been reported over Japan.
?
see: http://oscar.dcarr.org/
?
?
Mike (K9QHO)
AMSAT 33589
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:27:46 +0000
From: Lance Collister <w7gj@x.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GJTRACKER Version 2.0 Now Available
To: Magic Band EME <magic@xxxxx.xxx>, "'moon-net'"
<moon-net@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, PNWVHFS
<PNWVHFS@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BLU121-DAV13F3AC0D757544CCC5AEA889F50@xxx.xxx>
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Hello!
While I was operating as E51SIX on 6m EME and had no internet, I sure missed
the
great world maps on the ON4KST chat pages, which show the moonrise
"terminator" as
it moves across the earth. So, since I wanted to make sure to have that
capability next time when I am out on DXpedition without the internet, I added
that capability to GJTRACKER.
Version 2.0 of GJTRACKER is now available, and includes a fairly detailed
world
Field Locator map to show what parts of the world can see the moon (or any
other
celestial object). This feature is accessed by selecting the "Real Time" mode
when you run the program. The GJHELP.pdf file has been updated to reflect the
new
addition to the Real Time window:
http://bigskyspaces.com/w7gj/GJTRACKER.zip
The map redraws itself every minute. Sorry, but it is not currently a user-
sizable
map. The screen size setting of 1280x768 pixels on my laptop is just big
enough to
show the entire world map at once. CU on the moon! GL and VY 73, Lance
--
Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex: WN3GPL, WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8,
E51SIX)
P.O. Box 73
Frenchtown, MT 59834 USA
QTH: DN27UB
TEL: (406) 626-5728 URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj
2m DXCC #11, 6m DXCC #815
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:49:57 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 10 GHz and 24 GHz systems?
To: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <009001ca2829$7c507be0$0201a8c0@xxx.xx>
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Hi Bob, WB4APR
Kuhne Electronic has modules for 10 , 24 , and 47 GHz
email: kuhne.db6nt@xxxxxxxx.xx
Internet site: www.db6nt.com
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] 10 GHz and 24 GHz systems?
> Looking for some educational 10 and 24 GHz modules...
>
> We want to use some in our satellite labs to teach students
> about microwaves. Some nice off the shelf laser comms modules
> may also be included. We have funds, so want to get something
> that is readily available and reproduceable, not one-of-a-kind.
>
> Thanks
> Bob, Wb4APR
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:50:53 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W1859F301B86D88C231E9FAD6F50@xxx.xxx>
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Gould
thanks for your reply (I guess it was to me since you quoted my post)
> This business of nit-picking and taking things out of context is not
> productive. Certainly not of my time.
my " BS" detector goes up when someone starts like that and then proceeds into
a long sort of explanation anyway. It is an attempt to legitimize the
question before you answer it. And it is one reason AMSAT NA is in trouble.
I made a statement that you felt you needed to answer...but you also needed to
take a cheap shot.
You folks are "so busy" wow. must be one of those 16 hour people (and yes
that is sarcastic)
anyrate this caught my eye.
>
> The Board can vote at any meeting or teleconference with the appropriate
> number of members present. The Board strategizes and directs and the
> Officers implement. There has not been a need for the Board to vote on
> anything.
> The Board has guided and directed the Officers to do many things over the
> last year. These have all been reported to the membership as tasks
> undertaken.
did you run this past a lawyer? What you have just admitted to is making
substantive decisions by the board and other operations folks at Amsat, which
doubtless include spending money...without any recorded vote or any ability to
view the individual board member stand or any valid record of it that can be
seen by the "members" of the organization. And NO what you claim is
reporting to the membership through an infrequent magazine...wont do it.
Indeed you just admitted to doing what the person who started this thread was
concerned about.
I dont know about the District of Columbia, but if AMSAT were a Texas
organization (and Amsat is much like the community association I headed in how
it is organized) then you have just admitted to a violation of law.
I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but the organization desperately
needs one.
Robert WB5MZO Life member Amsat NA
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:55:00 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 status 29Aug2009 #1
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <FDCA2832929603ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
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CW from FO-29 are transmitted now only over Japan.
Please wait a little more time to come to hear CW all over the world.
FO-29, 22:07-22:25UTC 28Aug2009 (07:06-07:25JST 29Aug2009), Mel 54deg
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 57 65 99 9C F0 70 EA EA F1 EF EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 58 65 99 9C F0 88 EA E9 F0 EF EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 57 65 99 9C F0 80 EA E9 F0 EF EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 00 05 25 00 24 01 81 56 65 99 9C F0 86 EA E9 F0 EF EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 00 05 25 00 24 01 01 58 65 99 9C F0 90 EA E8 F0 EF EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5A 65 99 9C F0 71 EA E7 F0 EF EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5C 65 99 9C F0 74 E9 E7 F0 EE EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5D 65 99 9C F0 90 E9 E7 F0 EE EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5D 65 99 9C F0 9D E9 E7 F0 EE EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5C 65 99 9C F0 81 E9 E7 EF EE EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5E 65 99 9C F0 83 E9 E6 EF EE EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5E 65 99 9D F0 82 E9 E6 EF EE EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5F 65 99 9C F0 76 E9 E6 EF EE EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5E 65 99 9C F0 98 E9 E6 EF EE EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5D 65 99 9C F0 62 E9 E5 EE EE EB
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 5A 65 99 9C F0 83 E9 E5 EE EE EA
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 57 65 99 9C F0 7F E9 E5 EE EE EA
HI HI 22 E2 88 D5 8F 09 05 25 00 24 01 01 56 65 99 9C F0 C3 E9 E5 EE EE EA
Another program, fo29cwte.exe Ver3.10
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/90829f29.jpg
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/90829f30.jpg
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/90829f31.jpg
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/90829f32.jpg
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/fo29cwte.zip
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:14:22 -0400
From: w8iss <w8iss@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1251501262.22350.19.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 17:50 -0500, Rocky Jones wrote:
> I dont know about the District of Columbia, but if AMSAT were a Texas
organization (and Amsat is much like the community association I headed in how
it is organized) then you have just admitted to a violation of law.
>
> I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but the organization desperately
needs one.
>
> Robert WB5MZO Life member Amsat NA
ARE you saying then that you are willing to step up and HELP out then?
This is to ALL those that have made comments during this and the other
thread:
May I ask what you have done FOR AMSAT or the Satellite community in the
past few years that HELPS out with a launch, building a satellite (even
a board of it), put forward the means to start a dialogue that MIGHT get
a launch in the near future?
IF not, then PLEASE shut up and let the BoD do what they can with the
help that is left after this latest of shouting matches.
James W8ISS
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:28:43 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <AB39A94C-3514-497E-8E80-595DF6603A2E@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes
every year we go through the same questions, the same answers and the
same belly aching. this year we have progressed one more step... its
illegal. geesh.
i am interested in knowing if you have posted a message about the bod
if you are a paid up member of amsat or a life member.
i manage the awards for amsat. i do not want to submit invoices to
amsat for board approval. so i purchase all the envelopes and
stiffners myself. i pay for all the ink that i print them with and i
pay for all the postage to mail the certificates out. i spend about
$150-$200 a year for this. it makes everyone happy and i don't have to
mess with paperwork. no one knew this until i just posted it. i don't
need a tax write off.
now, what are you doing to help the organization?
73...bruce - life member of amsat
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:37:50 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001f01ca2838$8f610420$ae230c60$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> now, what are you doing to help the organization?
I'm going to enjoy helping AMSAT where ever I can despite voices on the
internet telling me how immoral or how illegal it might be.
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:53:32 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A986DFC.1080701@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Rocky, I'm the current Board Alternate and one who is also involved with
AMSAT in a few other "volunteer" capacities.
While I could take issue with you on several statements you've made,
that would not help to bring the needed conclusion to the dialog you've
raised. Also, I don't have a background that could determine if you
indeed have some legitimate concerns.
It appears, to me anyway, that you feel there is a lack of
"transparency" at AMSAT through what you perceive as a possible lack of
proper reporting procedures, namely the keeping and dissemination of the
minutes of various AMSAT activities. Perhaps we can resolve this issue
as follows...
At the upcoming October Board meeting, I will propose that a motion be
entered requesting the Board seek legal counsel to determine the proper
reporting requirements and procedures needed to satisfy the conditions
of its bylaws and articles of incorporation and report the findings back
to the membership.
Further, to save the added cost burden to AMSAT for this legal finding,
I would hope that a "legally qualified" member can provide these
services "pro bono."
I do hope that is the objective you seek. If not, then I have missed the
point of your posts.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:54:53 -0400
From: "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: Re: BoD Elections
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <5A848097EED84B14B88047560F168B2B@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: Gould Smith
To: Rocky Jones
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
I expected this.
The board did vote to spend money at the last board meeting as documented, we
haven't had the need to approve anything since then.
I have said my piece. I will go do something productive.
Gould, WA4SXM
----- Original Message -----
From: Rocky Jones
To: gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx ; Amsat BB
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
Gould
thanks for your reply (I guess it was to me since you quoted my post)
> This business of nit-picking and taking things out of context is not
> productive. Certainly not of my time.
my " BS" detector goes up when someone starts like that and then proceeds
into a long sort of explanation anyway. It is an attempt to legitimize the
question before you answer it. And it is one reason AMSAT NA is in trouble.
I made a statement that you felt you needed to answer...but you also needed to
take a cheap shot.
You folks are "so busy" wow. must be one of those 16 hour people (and yes
that is sarcastic)
anyrate this caught my eye.
>
> The Board can vote at any meeting or teleconference with the appropriate
> number of members present. The Board strategizes and directs and the
> Officers implement. There has not been a need for the Board to vote on
> anything.
> The Board has guided and directed the Officers to do many things over the
> last year. These have all been reported to the membership as tasks
> undertaken.
did you run this past a lawyer? What you have just admitted to is making
substantive decisions by the board and other operations folks at Amsat, which
doubtless include spending money...without any recorded vote or any ability to
view the individual board member stand or any valid record of it that can be
seen by the "members" of the organization. And NO what you claim is
reporting to the membership through an infrequent magazine...wont do it.
Indeed you just admitted to doing what the person who started this thread
was concerned about.
I dont know about the District of Columbia, but if AMSAT were a Texas
organization (and Amsat is much like the community association I headed in how
it is organized) then you have just admitted to a violation of law.
I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but the organization desperately
needs one.
Robert WB5MZO Life member Amsat NA
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:12:04 -0600
From: Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A985634.9090002@xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
JoAnne Maenpaa wrote:
>> now, what are you doing to help the organization?
>>
>
> I'm going to enjoy helping AMSAT where ever I can despite voices on the
> internet telling me how immoral or how illegal it might be.
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
>
>
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>
I agree with JoAnne. I will continue to help AMSAT where ever I can.
If folks do not agree with the organization then attend a BOD mtg or
address your concerns directly to the BOD.
Lets get back to some constructive, educational and informative threads
on the bbs.
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:35:29 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: "'Timothy J. Salo'" <salo@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <69698241A2F04E70A64C8F8531EB362D@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
See my snips...
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy J. Salo [mailto:salo@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:48 PM
To: Dee
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BoD Elections
> There are no "secret" happenings - it is all out in the open.
Have you actually been to a Board meeting? Have you heard the pitch about
how you can't talk about anything that you hear during the meeting? I
assume that the chair still gives this pitch at the beginning of the Board
meeting.
>>>Yes, I have been. I have not heard any statement of secrecy(unless
relevant to legal proceedings). If a negotiation is ongoing for a launch and
they do not want it to be interfered with until it has been exhausted or
come to fruition, I will honor such a request. The full minutes of what is
said and discussed is published for all to see. Again, the BOD meeting is
open for all to attend that are interested enough to find out actions items
being passed around.
If you attended a board meeting, did you feel welcome? Or, did you feel
merely tolerated. Did the Board reserve a room just large enough for the
board members? Did you have to go find your own chair, if you wanted to
sit? Did you feel that you could eat any of the food that was left over
after the Board ate?
>>> I felt welcomed at any that I was present for. Some on the board
finally put a face to the name and call. I certainly did not know many
officers except for what I read about them in the mailings. I agree that
there is limited space since they really don't expect a large turnout at a
BOD meeting. (Most is dull, not exciting information but it gives you an
idea of procedures and good information to bring back to local groups via
presentations) I don't go for the food. AMSAT cannot accommodate a free
lunch for onlookers.
I once asked for a copy(of an agenda) at a Board meeting. You would think I
was asking for the keys to their bank account.
>>> They had copies when I attended-probably a result of you asking for
one.
Do you have confidence that you are even aware of all of the meetings of the
board?
>>>Their monthly phone conferences are summarized in the AMSAT journal
or on the BB or via the ANS.
In my view, the Board employs a number of subtle techniques to prevent the
membership from knowing about, much less discussing, the activities of the
Board.
>>>As in any organization, we elect the board to act on to do lists -
investigate - perform reality checks and disseminate information about our
organization because most of us cannot offer time and energy to do so.
Besides having your ideas heard, I don't think that members are permitted to
speak at board meetings, unless invited.
>>>Ideas from the general membership are presented at the annual
meeting. While attending one BOD meeting, I was asked "and what & why are
you here?" I promptly told them I was there to "observe and absorb"
information for my many presentations to local Radio Clubs asking me to
attend meetings - part of my Area Co-coordinator Job in NJ - Personally, I
like to hear about any HEO projects, my favorite subject.
--Timothy, once again, attend this years Symposium with a renewed interest
and what you feel should be changed, attempt change. We are only 40 years
old as a group and finding the level you wish AMSAT to be at can directly be
in your grasp. Grab a pen (Equivalent to a computer I guess) and volunteer
for something that we need to have happen - see the Journal!
-tjs
73,
Dee, NB2F
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:43:05 +0000
From: rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<348639380-1251506572-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-
1511103799-@xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
We don't need legal counsel, we already have a surplus with ITAR and
reclaiming our property.
I join joanne, I am sick of lawyers and whining malcontents, and want to have
fun with this.
Bob
N4HY LM
------Original Message------
From: JoAnne Maenpaa
Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
To: amsat bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
Sent: Aug 28, 2009 7:37 PM
> now, what are you doing to help the organization?
I'm going to enjoy helping AMSAT where ever I can despite voices on the
internet telling me how immoral or how illegal it might be.
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:58:58 -0400
From: "Barry A. Baines" <bbaines@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: bod@xxxxx.xxxx Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <6DE3A5C8-9F64-4352-9227-5315DD10CA08@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Robert:
The last Board of Directors meeting took place in October 2008. Since
then, there hasn't been a board meeting.
Please keep in mind that the purpose of the Board of Directors (BOD)
is to set the strategic direction of the corporation, elect the senior
officers (President, Executive Vice President, Treasurer, Corporate
Secretary, VP-Engineering, VP-Operations, and Manager.) and to
approve the budget. The Bylaws requires one meeting per year in
person and per Article III Section 5 of the Bylaws, the board meets as
soon as practicable after the election results are announced.
Traditionally, this meeting takes place in conjunction with the AMSAT
Symposium. That meeting typically lasts from 0800-2100 on Day 1 and
0800-1200 on Day 2 (with time off for lunch and dinner). It is an
intensive two-day meeting. This meeting is open to all unless there
is a need for a portion of the board meeting to be conducted in closed
session to discuss personal evaluation of our paid employee and salary
matters, or if there are matters of a confidential nature.
In the past, the number of board meetings per year has varied. In
some years it has been only one time, such as in 2008 and in 2009. In
other years, there have been two in-person meetings with the second
meeting in the Spring if there are compelling reasons to spend AMSAT $$
$ on travel and lodging. For example, the Board met in February 2004
in Orlando for two days to develop the Strategic Plan.
In other years, there have been multiple board meetings via
teleconference when specific items must be approved. For example,
between November 2006 and July 2007 five different board meetings took
place via teleconference when the Board voted on the MOU with
University of Maryland-Eastern Shore to establish the clean room in
Maryland, a vote was taken to file a FCC petition, approve a revised
budget, evaluate a fund raising initiative, etc. The minutes of
those particular meetings were printed in the November/December 2007
issue of the AMSAT Journal.
Consequently, the BOD meets in session when formal decisions must be
made by the Board. Day-to-day management of the corporation based
upon the strategic direction set by the Board of Directors is executed
by the President and the senior officers elected by the Board. Those
officers (including the President) are elected for one-year terms and
serve at the pleasure of the Board. Each new Board that convenes in
the Fall elects a slate of senior officers, including the President.
I trust I've answered your question.
Regards,
Barry Baines, WD4ASW
President-AMSAT
On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Rocky Jones wrote:
>
> Barry ...interesting statement
>
> this caught my eye
>
> "
>
> There are no other formal 'meeting minutes' or 'committee minutes' to
> be published. No 'official meetings' where the BOD has taken official
> votes or made decisions that require documentation have taken place
> since the 2008 AMSAT Symposium"
>
> so there are no official actions or votes of the directors, the BOD
> as a whole after the Amsat Symposium?
>
>
> Robert WB5MZO
>
>
> Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online.
> Find out more.
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:06:14 -0400
From: Steve Meuse <smeuse@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090829030614.GA14782@xxxx.xxx>
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rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx expunged (rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxxxx
> We don't need legal counsel, we already have a surplus with ITAR and
reclaiming our property.
>
> I join joanne, I am sick of lawyers and whining malcontents, and want to
have fun with this.
>
Just a friendly internet reminder.....
Don't feed the troll under the bridge!
This guy is going to make me re-read how to procmail him to /dev/null :)
-Steve
N1JFU
http://n1jfu.blogspot.com
smeuse @ twitter
P.S. I'm an area coordinator, volunteer at Dayton for the last 5 of 6 years,
ran the booth at Boxboro '08. What have *you* done lately? (pointing at the
crowd)
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:17:21 -0500
From: "Timothy J. Salo" <salo@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: BoD Elections
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A98ABD1.1070705@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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For the record, it should be noted that Dee was responding
publicly to e-mail that I sent privately.
I try to maintain a professional tone in my private e-mail
(knowing that private e-mail can easily become public). On the
other had, I would have refined the message and language more, if
I had intended for the e-mail to be public.
Having said that, my private e-mail does reflect my experience
as an AMSAT member attending parts of several Board meetings.
At some point, I will try to write a response to this thread.
I have found the messages to date highly informative.
-tjs
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
Dee wrote:
>
> See my snips...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy J. Salo [mailto:salo@xxxxxxx.xxxx
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:48 PM
> To: Dee
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BoD Elections
>
>> There are no "secret" happenings - it is all out in the open.
>
> Have you actually been to a Board meeting? Have you heard the pitch about
> how you can't talk about anything that you hear during the meeting? I
> assume that the chair still gives this pitch at the beginning of the Board
> meeting.
>
> >>>Yes, I have been. I have not heard any statement of secrecy(unless
> relevant to legal proceedings). If a negotiation is ongoing for a launch and
> they do not want it to be interfered with until it has been exhausted or
> come to fruition, I will honor such a request. The full minutes of what is
> said and discussed is published for all to see. Again, the BOD meeting is
> open for all to attend that are interested enough to find out actions items
> being passed around.
>
> If you attended a board meeting, did you feel welcome? Or, did you feel
> merely tolerated. Did the Board reserve a room just large enough for the
> board members? Did you have to go find your own chair, if you wanted to
> sit? Did you feel that you could eat any of the food that was left over
> after the Board ate?
>
> >>> I felt welcomed at any that I was present for. Some on the board
> finally put a face to the name and call. I certainly did not know many
> officers except for what I read about them in the mailings. I agree that
> there is limited space since they really don't expect a large turnout at a
> BOD meeting. (Most is dull, not exciting information but it gives you an
> idea of procedures and good information to bring back to local groups via
> presentations) I don't go for the food. AMSAT cannot accommodate a free
> lunch for onlookers.
>
> I once asked for a copy(of an agenda) at a Board meeting. You would think I
> was asking for the keys to their bank account.
>
> >>> They had copies when I attended-probably a result of you asking for
> one.
>
> Do you have confidence that you are even aware of all of the meetings of the
> board?
>
> >>>Their monthly phone conferences are summarized in the AMSAT journal
> or on the BB or via the ANS.
>
> In my view, the Board employs a number of subtle techniques to prevent the
> membership from knowing about, much less discussing, the activities of the
> Board.
>
> >>>As in any organization, we elect the board to act on to do lists -
> investigate - perform reality checks and disseminate information about our
> organization because most of us cannot offer time and energy to do so.
>
> Besides having your ideas heard, I don't think that members are permitted to
> speak at board meetings, unless invited.
>
> >>>Ideas from the general membership are presented at the annual
> meeting. While attending one BOD meeting, I was asked "and what & why are
> you here?" I promptly told them I was there to "observe and absorb"
> information for my many presentations to local Radio Clubs asking me to
> attend meetings - part of my Area Co-coordinator Job in NJ - Personally, I
> like to hear about any HEO projects, my favorite subject.
> --Timothy, once again, attend this years Symposium with a renewed interest
> and what you feel should be changed, attempt change. We are only 40 years
> old as a group and finding the level you wish AMSAT to be at can directly be
> in your grasp. Grab a pen (Equivalent to a computer I guess) and volunteer
> for something that we need to have happen - see the Journal!
>
> -tjs
>
>
> 73,
> Dee, NB2F
>
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:49:21 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] STS-128 photos from East Orlando
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <3A22F33B0E024F0A82533526CCE9DB14@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Great Launch tonight!
I have 3 photos taken from my roof top in East Orlando about 40 miles from the
pad. Not as clear as in the past, but not bad through some haze.
You can download from my server account if you like. The link is
www.mydrive.ch/en. The username is plethra2. The guest password is aa4kn_1.
They are found in the STS-128 folder. If you have any problems, email me and
I'll be sure to fix it.
Dave, AA4KN
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