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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Bob Bruninga )
2. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
3. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (David - KG4ZLB)
4. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
5. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (David - KG4ZLB)
6.  23Cm Up converter (IK1ZQJ Mario)
7.  symposium schedule inquiry (Joseph Armbruster)
8. Re: 23Cm Up converter (i8cvs)
9. Re: symposium schedule inquiry (JoAnne Maenpaa)
10. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
11. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Rocky Jones)
12.  Azimute pointer on a G-5600 gives a wrond value (PE0SAT)
13. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal) (Rocky Jones)
14. Re: Azimute pointer on a G-5600 gives a wrond value (i8cvs)
15.  unknown signal? (n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:34:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: afeller@xxxx.xxx
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <20090825093444.AAS04700@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Well, I think I see the root of the problem:

> I've been on a number of volunteer efforts...
> being President of the largest community association...
> being President of the School board...
> had far more consequences then Amsat can even imagine.
>
> I have a pretty good idea of what "volunterism"
> on a corporate level means.  ...
> The AMSAT BOD has no real comprehension of that concept...
> ... except for getting myself ... elected most
> of the people who I vote for dont...

Well, from your excellent vantage point on the top of a huge pile of
volunteers actually doing the work, I think you do not have any idea how
satellites actually get built and launched by volunteers with no pay or
compensation.

Further, nothing of what you say in your vast experience has anything to do
with the 5 or 6 guys working 12 and 16 hour days for months and years to get
the thing designed, built, integrated, tested, and launched.

Turn that pyramid that you like to sit on the top of upside down, with
yourself on the BOTTOM with say a few thousand kibitzers sitting on your
shoulders each one with his own expectations about what YOU should be doing.
And maybe you will see how many of the amateur satellites get built.

I do not in any way want to underestimate or denigrate the huge amount of work
that many hundreds of AMSAT volunteers do to make our missions work.  EVERYONE
of them finds a niche where he or she can help... And they do the bulk of the
routine work, But when it gets down to designing the circuits, the spacecraft
and then building it and testing it, it is usually that small handful of top-
talent that actually gets the job done.

Again, AMSAT has dozens of such top-talent volunteers, but only a small
handful are available for any one project.  Each satellite campaign takes a
HUGE PERSONAL toll in marriages, family, work, and sanity, and often burns out
these individuals for a while... And there is nothing more burning, then self-
appointed top-down kibitzers who waste everyone's time with incessant harping
and won't get out of the way and won't support the few rare opportunities that
we might get.

Thank heavens for the huge majority of AMSAT volunteers who contribute and
support the organization and the particular individuals at any one time who
may have found a launch opportunity and are giving their lives to develop
something to meet that unique opportunity.

Its the extremley rare free LAUNCH that determines the mission, which
determines what we build, and no amount of kibitzing and whinning by a few
keyboard-jockys is going to change that.

Bob, WB4APR


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:17:53 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A93F291.9060502@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I think one of the problems volunteers face, which seems to have not been
addresses, is one of geography.

The US is a big country. The existing volunteers are widespread.
I work better as a member of a team rather than as an induvidual. I need a
"normal" work environment. I'm inherently
lazy and don't have the motovation to reliably work from home.
I don't know of any active Amsat volunteers within, say, 30 miles of me, that
I can team up with.
Find me a project within 30 miles of Xenia, Ohio, in which I have some
experience, and i will happily join the team.


Bob Bruninga wrote:
> Well, I think I see the root of the problem:


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:23:19 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A93F3D7.20608@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On top of that, it is inherently difficult, nay almost impossible, to
become an AMSAT Volunteer - trust me, I have been trying for over a year
now and have just about given up!

-
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com




Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> I think one of the problems volunteers face, which seems to have not been
addresses, is one of geography.
>
> The US is a big country. The existing volunteers are widespread.
> I work better as a member of a team rather than as an induvidual. I need a
"normal" work environment. I'm inherently
> lazy and don't have the motovation to reliably work from home.
> I don't know of any active Amsat volunteers within, say, 30 miles of me,
that I can team up with.
> Find me a project within 30 miles of Xenia, Ohio, in which I have some
experience, and i will happily join the team.
>
>
> Bob Bruninga wrote:
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>

-



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:38:06 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <EEA003511929469DA48C1C7E7725E43F@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Good morning David,
I've heard this same issue brought up in the past by other members.
Personally speaking, I've been able to plug into several areas in which to
volunteer. What exactly did you indicate that you would like to volunteer to
do?

Dave, AA4KN

----- Original Message -----
From: "David - KG4ZLB" <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:23 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS


> On top of that, it is inherently difficult, nay almost impossible, to
> become an AMSAT Volunteer - trust me, I have been trying for over a year
> now and have just about given up!
>
> -
> David
> KG4ZLB
> www.kg4zlb.com
>
>
>
>
> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>> I think one of the problems volunteers face, which seems to have not been
>> addresses, is one of geography.
>>
>> The US is a big country. The existing volunteers are widespread.
>> I work better as a member of a team rather than as an induvidual. I need
>> a "normal" work environment. I'm inherently
>> lazy and don't have the motovation to reliably work from home.
>> I don't know of any active Amsat volunteers within, say, 30 miles of me,
>> that I can team up with.
>> Find me a project within 30 miles of Xenia, Ohio, in which I have some
>> experience, and i will happily join the team.
>>
>>
>> Bob Bruninga wrote:
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>
> -
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:55:01 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A93FB45.7050805@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Dave,

Once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away, I completed the website
Volunteer form only to hit submit and find the link was broken, I tried
again and got the same result so I reported the broken link and then
passed all my Volunteer details on to an AMSAT Board member. That really
must have been about a year ago. I could probably offer (315) Telemetry
Retrieval, (520) Help with the AMSAT Journal, and also the following
headings as per the Volunteer web page:-

550
552
557
580
590
595
600
610
620
630

My Operating interests are:

400
410
440 - (I was part of a team that produced a successful ARISS school contact)
480
499

I come from an Investment Banking background so on that basis I could
offer accounting/bookkeeping services. I can also offer (limited) web
design or web maintenance skills etc.

When I got back from Dayton this year I spoke with Patrick (WD9EWK)
about becoming an Area Coordinator (552) and he provided me with the
name of the Board Member to whom I should address my request. That
e-mail went out on June 19th to two senior members plus Patrick - no
response.

Ho hum!

73

--
David
KG4ZLB
www.kg4zlb.com





n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Good morning David,
>    I've heard this same issue brought up in the past by other members.
> Personally speaking, I've been able to plug into several areas in
> which to volunteer. What exactly did you indicate that you would like
> to volunteer to do?
>
> Dave, AA4KN
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David - KG4ZLB"
> <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:23 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
>
>
>
>



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:57:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: IK1ZQJ Mario <mhz1575_69-aprs@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  23Cm Up converter
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1107.38357.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hello Folks,
To work in uplink on the L band without a dedicated radio able to transmit at
1269MHz an upconverter is needed, probably with if input is in 70cm.
Someone can suggest me how to use or build?
I'm analyzing this way to save money instead of the station upgrade with a new
radio.
Thank you in advance.

Mario IK1ZQJ





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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:39:38 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  symposium schedule inquiry
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
	<938f42d70908250839i1e01be25o158fa65cd37caf45@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I'm considering attending the Amsat symposium this year for the first time.
From this website, it looks as if the main dates are from 9-11:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/symposium/2009/index.php

I am trying to plan out the dates I will attend but i'm not clear as to what
is happening on each day.  When will the official presentations / talks
schedule be posted?

Thank You,
Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO


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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:46:25 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 23Cm Up converter
To: "IK1ZQJ Mario" <mhz1575_69-aprs@xxxxx.xx>, "AMSAT-BB"
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004201ca259b$34224460$0201a8c0@xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Mario, IK1ZQJ

I can suggest you to buy an SSB Electronics  transverter model LT 24S
output 1269 - 1271 MHz with an IF input 144-146 MHz,  10 watt output
and a spare socket for a second XTAL to extend the band up or down the
above centered BW

I have used the LT 24S to drive a pair of 7289 in a cavity amplifier when
AO40 was alive and well

But be carefull.......because upconverters and transverters have their
limitation in terms of frequency agility and probably it is more convenient
for you to buy a second hand tranceiver with a 1200 MHz module installed as
I did with a TS-790E at 850,00 Euro's and perfectly working.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "IK1ZQJ Mario" <mhz1575_69-aprs@xxxxx.xx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:57 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] 23Cm Up converter


> Hello Folks,
> To work in uplink on the L band without a dedicated radio able to transmit
at 1269MHz an upconverter is needed, probably with if input is in 70cm.
> Someone can suggest me how to use or build?
> I'm analyzing this way to save money instead of the station upgrade with a
new radio.
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Mario IK1ZQJ
>




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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:56:41 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: symposium schedule inquiry
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001001ca259c$a3f097a0$ebd1c6e0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi Joseph,

You mentioned ...
> I am trying to plan out the dates I will attend but I'm not
> clear as to what is happening on each day.

I'm not an official spokesperson for the Symposium but the several
Symposiums I've attended have followed a general pattern such as this:

Thursday - BoD Meeting (open to members)

Friday AM - BoD Meeting
Friday Afternoon - Technical Presentations
Friday Evening - Socialize, meet n' greet, etc.

Saturday AM - Technical Presentations
Saturday Late Morning - AMSAT Annual Meeting, then lunch
Saturday Afternoon - Technical Presentations
Saturday Evening - AMSAT Annual Banquet

Sunday Morning - Field Coordinator Breakfast, varying technical session,
guided tour to high tech site, IARU meeting, etc.

> When will the official presentations / talks schedule be posted?

I'm sure this is still TBD at this point. The due date for the Call for
Papers is September 1 so this info is coming soon! The official program
usually comes out a couple of weeks before the Symposium.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
Editor, AMSAT News Service
Copy Editor, AMSAT Journal




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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:35:09 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: <kg4zlb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <35DF3C7913A145FA891B6C9509CE73FA@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=response

Well David,
I think you draw a very clear picture to an unfortunate situation. It
appears you have made a reason effort to volunteer.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "David - KG4ZLB" <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS


> Hi Dave,
>
> Once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away, I completed the website
> Volunteer form only to hit submit and find the link was broken, I tried
> again and got the same result so I reported the broken link and then
> passed all my Volunteer details on to an AMSAT Board member. That really
> must have been about a year ago. I could probably offer (315) Telemetry
> Retrieval, (520) Help with the AMSAT Journal, and also the following
> headings as per the Volunteer web page:-
>
> 550
> 552
> 557
> 580
> 590
> 595
> 600
> 610
> 620
> 630
>
> My Operating interests are:
>
> 400
> 410
> 440 - (I was part of a team that produced a successful ARISS school
> contact)
> 480
> 499
>
> I come from an Investment Banking background so on that basis I could
> offer accounting/bookkeeping services. I can also offer (limited) web
> design or web maintenance skills etc.
>
> When I got back from Dayton this year I spoke with Patrick (WD9EWK) about
> becoming an Area Coordinator (552) and he provided me with the name of the
> Board Member to whom I should address my request. That e-mail went out on
> June 19th to two senior members plus Patrick - no response.
>
> Ho hum!
>
> 73
>
> --
> David
> KG4ZLB
> www.kg4zlb.com
>
>
>
>
>
> n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
>> Good morning David,
>>    I've heard this same issue brought up in the past by other members.
>> Personally speaking, I've been able to plug into several areas in which
>> to volunteer. What exactly did you indicate that you would like to
>> volunteer to do?
>>
>> Dave, AA4KN
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David - KG4ZLB"
>> <kg4zlb@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:23 AM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:36:37 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W49B94E2009E2F1E9415FD1D6F80@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Bob...

>
> Further, nothing of what you say in your vast experience has anything to do
with the 5 or 6 guys working 12 and 16 hour days for months and years to get
the thing designed, built, integrated, tested, and launched.

this is almost like " the shuttle and station dock at 17,500 mph"...

OK they work hard but one they are probably not doing 12-16 hour days
endlessly (OK you didnt say that but thats implied(whats the job that pays the
bills doing all this time?) and other people put in long hours volunteering.
And they are not the only people in The Republic working 12 and 16 hour days.

I realize that the tendency is to make all volunteer efforts unique and
special and all...but come on.
>
> Turn that pyramid that you like to sit on the top of upside down, with
yourself on the BOTTOM with say a few thousand kibitzers sitting on your
shoulders each one with his own expectations about what YOU should be doing.
And maybe you will see how many of the amateur satellites get built.
>

you dont have a clue about "kibitzers sitting on your shoulders each one with
his (or her) own expectations about what YOU should be doing" until you have
tried to manage a school board.

>From the religious righters   to the goodless lefties and a lot in between,
everybody has their peculiar and passionate ideas about "how our children
should be educated" and why The Republic will come crashing to a halt if
"insert this thing here" isnt part of the school effort.

My father in law retired as a four star in the USN and his line to me after
attending one of the school board meetings was "and I thought politics at the
Pentagon were tough" (and he lived through the Cheney era).

Look, it is not all that special being on the school board, it just gives one
a perspective.  Nor is it all that special building ham satellites...it just
is a unique perspective..  The urge to think it is the thing that qualifies
one for "special treatment" or even understanding...., it is a product of a
mindset that is killing space efforts across the board, it is the mindset that
has driven NASA to the brink of collapse in human exploration efforts (and
that is not just my conclusion, it is that of the Augustine Commission).

You and the other folks who have built the birds are to be commended for your
work  You have served both the community here and the USN and of course the
USNA  well beyond the call of duty.

But I dont care if satellite builders have to work 24 hours a day in terms of
meeting their volunteer goals.  Unless they are doing it by themselves, they
have a responsibility to the membersship of the organization that makes their
volunterism "possible:"\

and the Amsat BOD is so far out of touch, they might as well work in the
shuttle program

Robert WB5MZO

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:42:57 +0200
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Azimute pointer on a G-5600 gives a wrond value
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
	<a51bc50baf5a57cc5dbc16a38c2fa026.squirrel@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1


Hello thanks for reading,

I recently acquired a Yaesu G-5600 and experience the following:

When I turn the azimuth antenna, then the pointer gives an other value
than when I don't turn the antenna.

It lookes that the load on the powersupply causes the pointer to indicate
a different value then when there is no load.

Is this a known problem?
And is there a way to solve this problem?

Thanks in advance,

PE0SAT - Jan






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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:01:02 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal)
To: <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W21C8FA16EA873E67FF885D6F80@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Ben...

"
> "But Marge! Trying is the first step toward failure!"

your argument/position is one that NASA tots out all the time to explain why
they have lost two space shuttles "we are pushing the unknown".

Not so much.

Had Columbia been lost on its first few flights because there was something
"not understood" about tripping the Mach/reynolds numbers coming from vacumn
and 17,500 mph and ballistic flight to near sea level and 220 kts and "lift"
(sorry to mix) then it would have been sad but then again that is what test
flying is all about.  The ground around Edwards and Pax River is littered with
holes dug by Aviators/pilots trying to figure those things out.    See Glenn
Edwards and The Flying Wing.  A noted astronaut (and  a very good test pilot)
died as he uncovered a problem with a very popular homebuilt...and a lot of
"regular pilots" fly safe because of it.

Columbia was lost because the folks at NASA and shuttle ops confused "bold"
and "reckless" and continued to fly with a known malfunction that could
destroy the vehicle.  Thats reckless..  The folks at Buffalo killed their
passengers because they didnt follow approved procedures. thats reckless

there is no cloaking that "to boldy go where no one has gone before".

> So, if Robert was in charge in the 1960s, Earth would have likely not
> made it beyond LEO, if gotten that far. But, just think: We would have
> NEVER failed!

odd you bring up Apollo.

Apollo was a stunt. As Gene Krantz said immediatly after Armstrong/et al got
on the Hornet "lets stop".  It was a political effort the equivalent of "war"
and it came well before the infrastructure of human spaceflight could support
continued efforts

http://thespacereview.com/article/1448/1

my friend Jim Oberg and I do not agree on everything but this is not all that
bad an analysis
>
> One has to hope the Robert's wife was in charge of teaching his kids how
> to ride their bikes...

my saintly wife did that  actually.  When the girls were mature and ready to
ride bikes I was in the Mideast.  Slugger also taught the kids to drive, I was
in Russia.  I however taught the kids aerobatics...and while sadly my (by
then) late wife could not be there, was on the deck of the CVN with their
grandfather...when they finished flight training.

They are now pushing fighters on and off of the "Gipper" They are pretty
acquainted with the difference between bold and reckless.

>
> Robert, if you are truly worried about something dooming AMSAT to
> failure, you can appreciate how this statement, if followed, would do
> it. AMSAT is one of the few bright spots in "pushing the envelope" of
> Amateur radio.

thats subjective.

Robert WB5MZO

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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:45:08 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Azimute pointer on a G-5600 gives a wrond
	value
To: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:42 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Azimute pointer on a G-5600 gives a wrond value
>
> Hello thanks for reading,
>
> I recently acquired a Yaesu G-5600 and experience the following:
>
> When I turn the azimuth antenna, then the pointer gives an other value
> than when I don't turn the antenna.
>
> It lookes that the load on the powersupply causes the pointer to indicate
> a different value then when there is no load.
>
> Is this a known problem?
> And is there a way to solve this problem?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> PE0SAT - Jan
>
Hi Jan, PE0SAT

Connect a voltmeter between terminals A1 and A3 of the control box
The voltage across the 500 ohm potentiometer into the azimuth rotator
must remain constant at about 6 volt while turning the azimuth.
A1 and A3 are connected via a 15 ohm resistor to the output of a voltage
regulator Q2 UA7806C in the schematic diagram.
The same regulator power supply the elevation potentiometer via a
15 ohm resistor so that connecting the voltmeter across E1 and E3 and
rotating  the elevation the voltage must remain constant as well.
If the voltage between A1 and A3 changes and if between E1 and E3 do
not change it is not a problem of the voltage regulator but probably
someting is overloading the control box power supply while rotating
the azimuth.
In this case the drop of voltage must appear as well at the input of the
regulator and you can check it measuring the voltage at pin 7 of the
8  pin external control connector because pin 7 is directly connected
to the regulator input.

Have fun

73" de

i8CVS Domenico







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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:59:45 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  unknown signal?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I was just monitoring a signal at 435.795 MHz +/- doppler, that I can't
identify. It seems to be some sort of modulated carrier. Does anyone know
which satellite this might be? It lasted from about 18:45 UTC until 18:56 UTC.

Dave, AA4KN


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