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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal) (Luc Leblanc)
2. Re: [Senior-officers] Den Connors, KD2S (Martha)
3.  HR1LW TNX !! (Alvaro de Leon Romo)
4. Re: High LEO for cubesat? (Robert Bruninga)
5.  AO-51 VS (WB2LLP)
6. Re: High LEO for cubesat? (Joe)
7.  FO-29 (WILLIAMS MICHAEL)
8.  Vacation (Martha)
9. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal) (Rocky Jones)
10.  Fwd:  Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal) (Donald Jacob)
11.  PE1RAH pictures from Ham Fair Tokyo (William Leijenaar)
12. Re: lvb tracker circuit -- xtal? (Howard Long)
13. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal) (Luc Leblanc)
14. Re: AO-51 VS (Luc Leblanc)
15. Re: PE1RAH pictures from Ham Fair Tokyo (Andrew Koenig)
16. Re: MFJ/Cushcraft (Clint Bradford)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:16:43 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A92142B.17131.5509CE5@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
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On 23 Aug 2009 at 23:17, N0JY wrote:

> I believe you are right, Bob.  The total number of dissenting opinions
> at least on the -bb have been few.  I have been silent, although tempted
> to reply, but I believe you have hit the nail on the head.  I believe
> the "silent majority" is behind AMSAT.
>
> Jerry
> N0JY
>
> Bob Bruninga wrote:
> > The broad membership believes in the AMSAT mission and contributes to help
these poor souls make progress and hopes for the best.
> >
> > Bob, Wb4APR
> >
> >


Guessing on the "Silent majority" opinion is and will always be very tricky
but what's this "silent majority" is waiting for and behind
it's the next HEO namely called Eagle by AMSAT-NA but scapped due to numerous
issues at AMSAT-NA.

If each time someone voice an opinion who is not what someone else opinion it
is not appropriate to answer back using this kind of language
" but I believe you have hit the nail on the head."  "and not what a bunch of
keyboard-jocky shack-potato's waste everyone's time whinnning
about..." If you can only whine, then get out of the way..." And the ankle-
bitters and whinning shack-potatoes win and will
go on and on about how "they shoulda, coulda, woulda done better"...  BUT,
nothing was accomplished..."

Bob and Jerry we are in 2009 and internet is now a part of our life. It is not
only the AMSAT journal who is now the only one sources of
information. The context change at AMSAT-NA as soon as people start to comment
and voices their opinions mainly through the internet but
mentalities at AMSAT-NA never change.

You are right when you wrote "And since "they" are the ones spending 12-16
hours a day for
years to BUILD it, then it is only human nature that they will build what THEY
believe in" But if you only work for your own satisfaction
ignoring others wishes and ideas you are going to hit a wall one day or
another. Is it possible that actual AMSAT-NA problems come from
this kind of attitude? I do what i want if you are not with me you are against
me and i will ignore you... What happen when the crowds
start to voices their opinions  " the ones spending 12-16 hours a day for
years to BUILD it" start to fight back the pressure making
ultimatum "I will resign and try to do it if you can"

"A life lived in fear is a life half lived."

Is ITAR is really what stops the cooperation between AMSAT-NA and AMSAT-DL?
even if both sign a cooperation agreement many years prior to
this ITAR illusion? Could be if AMSAT-NA in the past was so aware of the
"silent majority" desires they probably choose to go by theses
desires instead of those of  the few builders!

Trying to silence those who freely voices their opinions telling them  "If you
can only whine, then get out of the way..." is surely a way
to promote the silent majority to express their opinions... As i said guessing
on the "Silent majority" opinion is and will always be very
tricky" mine is as good as yours and as written " The total number of
dissenting opinions at least on the -bb have been few" just note the
" number of dissenting opinions" and "have been few"" you will have the AMSAT-
NA trend no matter what theses dissenting opinions are we
just have to consider them as " have been few" as the validity and the right
to express an opinion in AMSAT-NA is related to a math
figures? In a sense they are right just ask any marketing firm about their
client satisfaction, when they are satisfied they will tell to 3
others but when they are not satisfied they will tell to 10 others. Again it's
very tricky to guess on the silent majority opinion!!

As Robert wrote "based on your logic no criticism whatsoever is warranted."
Yes it is exactly what we all seen here from AMSAT-NA and by
some of their blinded suppporters.

Jack also summarized the situation quite well even it was not his goal:

"The question is, what about those who left AMSAT or no longer pay due because
they also -
silently - are voting with thier talents, skills, and money which are not
available... It is no problem to have a group which is in - at least tacit -
agreement, just force the others out or ignore them until they leave."

Bingo! you put the finger on the plea but IMHO AMSAT-NA should change his
mission "Its goal was to foster Amateur Radio's participation in
space research and communication. AMSAT was founded to continue the efforts,
begun in 1961, by Project OSCAR" to read "Its goal is to
foster Amateur Radio's education and information and cooperation in space
research and communication.AMSAT was founded to continue the
efforts, begun in 1961, by Project OSCAR and now carried by universities and
colleges.

Just note the "cooperation" just read an excerpt about the 2001 International
Satellite Workshop sponsored by AMSAT-DL

"The closing day of the gathering was set aside for more-detailed
discussions on various aspects and strategies for future missions.
Representatives of nine AMSAT organizations, as well as of various
space business groups, the European Space Agency and Arianespace
attended the gathering."

Just return to the basics!!!


Could be at the next AMSAT-NA Space Symposium in October someone can make a
proposal? It will at least take out a lot of pressure for the
BOD who is still without a president and it will make possible to support the
viable actual options eg: P3E by AMSAT-DL and support ARISS
in their mission including the Suit/Box sat. This change in the goal will give
the necessary slack to regroup and reform AMSAT-NA towards a
more realistic mission as it is obvious that all the resources human and
funding are now exhausted regarding an HEO and probably also for
any other cube sats as it is no more AMSAT-NA who is the leader in the amateur
satellite world.

It's not new look what happen in 2004:

"AMSAT at the Nanosat-3 Design Review

NASA and the AFRL had a review/poster session with the University Nanosat 3
team of universities just a few weeks ago. This was held near
the Dulles Airport in the DC area. All 13 universities were in attendance. We
also had a significant contingent of AMSAT leadership there
including Tom Clark, W3IWI, Art Feller, W4ART, Perry Klein, W3PK, Mark
Kanawati, N4TPY and Frank Bauer, KA3HDO. They provided significant
guidance to the university students, the professors and to the NASA and AFRL
members in attendance. There was a lot of AMSAT hardware
development knowledge in that room. The AMSAT team members had some
substantial one-on-one dialogue with the university teams on frequency
coordination, dos and don'ts of spacecraft design, etc."

Check also this
http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/pdfs/minutes/june07/Radio_Amateurs_Mars.pdf

They surely can help providing expertise and counselling to all the various
group an universities who are projecting to put something in
orbit. Their communication expertise will and still is one of their greatest
assets. It is by this asset they will be able to survive and
can have the best opportunity to still be able to fly a transponder (See
PE1RAH William Leijenaar small transponder project) in orbit. Also
maintaining their web site can also be a nodal point of amateur satellite
expertise who can be promoted to be "The expertise place on the
internet".

Failure is not an option but targetting any launch or satellite construction
is now out of reach and will only lead to even more failure
and deception. It is better to move in one direction than remaining stand
still.



"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE





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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:34:18 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [Senior-officers] Den Connors, KD2S
To: k3io@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: TAPR <tapr-announce@xxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<956751cf0908240734r12b2b1e1w30797391b1e05e4@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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If memory serves me correctly, I think Den Connors was the person who set us
up with Telemail through the University.  It cost about $18,000 a year!
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Tom Clark, K3IO <tom.k3io@xxxxx.xxx>wrote:

>  I'm sure that many early TAPRites remember TAPR's first President, Den
> Connors, KD2S. Den was active in Tucson circa 1982-83 at the formation of
> TAPR, during the TNC-1 days. Some info on Den can be seen at
> http://www.tapr.org/history.html, as documented in the first PSR (
> http://www.tapr.org/pub_psr1.html). The early TAPR PSRs can be read at
> http://www.ka9q.net/newsletters.html. In 1982 (in PSR #2), Den and I made
> the first proposal for an amateur radio packet satellite. Around 1984, Den
> moved east to take a job at Wang Computers in Lowell, MA.
>
> Den's story can be read at http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/denconnors. I
> lost touch with him in ~1986. Just tonite, I got this sad note from Ralph,
> KD1SM that I want to share with you:
>
>  I don't know if you or other TAPR/AMSAT old-timers are still
> in contact with Den Connors KD2S.  I know you two worked
> together a lot in early packet days.
>
> If you have not kept in touch with Den, then I'm sorry to tell you
> that he was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma two years
> ago.  I'm even sorrier to tell you that a bone marrow transplant
> that had been scheduled for this week has been canceled.  The
> message circulated among his colleagues reads:
>
>   "Den was simply too ill to proceed.  A PET scan was done yesterday
>   and it found that the cancer has spread through out his whole body.
>   He will come home tomorrow and be attended to by the Hospice folks.
>   Doctors estimate approx 5 weeks.  I can t tell you how truly Den will
>   be missed by all who knew him.  If any of you have read his Caring
>   Bridge I m sure you can understand what incredible spirit Den has. "
>
> Regards,
> Ralph Swick KD1SM
> Nashoba Valley Amateur Radio Club
> http://www.n1nc.org
> Friend of Den's for ~15 years.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Via the Senior-officers mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA
> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/senior-officers
>
>


--
73- Martha


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:44:15 -0500
From: Alvaro de Leon Romo <xe2at@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  HR1LW TNX !!
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BAY108-W170DCC3A7D8EF00AEB2E85F5F90@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Thanks to all guys for send me direct or via BB the info about the HR1LW
grid.....

He is located in EK64...



I really appreciate your time..

Al XE2AT



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:11:20 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: High LEO for cubesat?
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1ACDA83E8E544F79B1618EA8AEA52FAB@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

> Much of the debate on the board here arises
> from our common desire to see the launching
> of satellites with a larger footprint.

For what it is worth, this semester I will finally get a student
to work on the 40 year old AMSAT idea of a water rocket.  (Carry
water to orbit and use solar power to electrolizie the wate to
H2 and O2 and then burn those in a thruster to raise the orbit
of a cubesat.

Mostly the goal is to get from the very low (short lived) LEO to
a higher LEO to get longer life, but it will be fun to get this
project going again.  I had a working model about a dozen years
ago, but it eventually blew up..  Now we will get another one
built probably...

Bob



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:27:57 -0400
From: WB2LLP <wb2llp@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 VS
To: AMSAT -BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <F572A9C62BAA413EBF228253A268E6DF@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

During the recent week of V/S  I got caught changing my mobile station
configuration and had to make more changes for V/S This occurred during one of
our more nasty heat and humidity cycles.  Working outside, even in the shade
was difficult.   On the last possible day, I finally did hear a brief period
of S band.  Now I know what I have to do for next time.

As I recall it, one of the criteria for the AO-40 was to provide several
different modes to stretch  the experience and capabilities of Hams.  Many
Hams complained that they had to buy extra equipment, but many  found sources
of commercial equipment that could be modified and sold at reasonable prices.
The current satellite building criteria seems to be that if you can not work
the satellite with an HT and a hand held antenna we do not attempt it.

As a compromise, how about one week a month AO-51 is in VS and another it is
in LS?  This is a technical hobby, let us prove we can handle the challenge.

73 de WB2LLP  Gene



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:36:49 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: High LEO for cubesat?
To: bruninga@xxxx.xxx
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A92B391.5080804@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Morning Bob,

This water fuel sounds interesting.

I know you can seperate water into it's components with electricity as
you say.  common .

But  when  water either Boils, evaporates, or in the case of a vacuum,
again a somewhat different "Boil"  and turns gaseous,  is it still H2O
or has it broke down into it's components also?

Joe

Robert Bruninga wrote:

>>Much of the debate on the board here arises
>>from our common desire to see the launching
>>of satellites with a larger footprint.
>>
>>
>
>For what it is worth, this semester I will finally get a student
>to work on the 40 year old AMSAT idea of a water rocket.  (Carry
>water to orbit and use solar power to electrolizie the wate to
>H2 and O2 and then burn those in a thruster to raise the orbit
>of a cubesat.
>
>Mostly the goal is to get from the very low (short lived) LEO to
>a higher LEO to get longer life, but it will be fun to get this
>project going again.  I had a working model about a dozen years
>ago, but it eventually blew up..  Now we will get another one
>built probably...
>
>Bob
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:45:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: WILLIAMS MICHAEL <k9qho6762@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  FO-29
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <436721.56008.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I have not heard FO-29 the last two passes.
?
Mike (K9QHO)
AMSAT 33589

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:50:23 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Vacation
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Board of Directors <bod@xxxxx.xxx>,
	senior-officers <senior-officers@xxxxx.xxx>, officers@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
	<956751cf0908240850y62b01af0sdd1a1be92fec31e1@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I will be on vacation from September 1 - September 9.

--
73- Martha


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:13:12 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal)
To: <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W509B2097E29AEA3894741AD6F90@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



Bob.

perhaps you have hit the problem squarely on the head.
>
> I didn't say that.  Read it again.  I said they will work on and build what
they believe in.

Volunteerism is an act of service.  Indeed it is the foundation of "service"
(no matter if it is the Boy Scouts/FFA or the US military)...the questions are
whose interest does one serve when one volunteers and how is ones service
perceived.  .

>From what I am hearing you say, (write) is that the folks who are doing the
building on AMSAT satellites are not for the most part serving the interest of
the Amateur Satellite community, but what?  Themselves?

I think you volunteer a lot for the BSA...I do.  When I do that the joy I get
out of volunteering is the service...not so much volunteering just for the
things that I enjoy.

Are you saying that the folks who build the satellites are doing it for their
own self interest?

Iif so..."Houston we have a problem"

Robert WB5MZO



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:29:12 -0700
From: Donald Jacob <wb5eku@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Fwd:  Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Donald Jacob <wb5eku@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal)
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>


Lets just let this thread die. He seems to be trolling, twisting wording
around to rile
up the group.
Just think if he put this much time into something productive..

He, along with the guy in Canada and San Diego are going into my
filter so I don't even have to waste the time to delete his ridiculous
and inflammatory posts.

Onward AMSAT.

Don  WB5EKU


On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

>
>
> Bob.
>
> perhaps you have hit the problem squarely on the head.
> >
> > I didn't say that.  Read it again.  I said they will work on and build
> what they believe in.
>
> Volunteerism is an act of service.  Indeed it is the foundation of
> "service" (no matter if it is the Boy Scouts/FFA or the US military)...the
> questions are whose interest does one serve when one volunteers and how is
> ones service perceived.  .
>
> >From what I am hearing you say, (write) is that the folks who are doing
> the building on AMSAT satellites are not for the most part serving the
> interest of the Amateur Satellite community, but what?  Themselves?
>
> I think you volunteer a lot for the BSA...I do.  When I do that the joy I
> get out of volunteering is the service...not so much volunteering just for
> the things that I enjoy.
>
> Are you saying that the folks who build the satellites are doing it for
> their own self interest?
>
> Iif so..."Houston we have a problem"
>
> Robert WB5MZO
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:31:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  PE1RAH pictures from Ham Fair Tokyo
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <854919.62445.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi AMSATs,

Please check the website of Alan, GM1SXX who has made a picture gallery for me
of the pictures made at the Ham Fair in Tokyo.

http://www.pe1rah.observations.biz/index.htm

More pictures will follow, so check it up again, after some time.

I have also seen the new ICOM 9100 at the ICOM booth on the Ham Fair here in
Tokyo.
The rig looks very nice, but when I asked some technical details they said
that they still working on it and that it is not finished yet. The IC9100 on
the booth was not RF operational (maybe reason why no mic was connected on
it). It still has a nice look, and it would be a great rig to have in the
future shack.

My thanks to Alan, GM1SXX for making the picture gallery

73 de JA/PE1RAH,

William Leijenaar in Tokyo.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:05:59 +0100
From: "Howard Long" <howard@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: lvb tracker circuit -- xtal?
To: "'Stefano Simonetti'" <iw1rdz@xxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <011601ca24dd$278b1880$76a14980$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Stefano.

Yes, as others have stated, you need a 4MHz crystal for the serial port bit
rate to be correct.

Please also use the latest .HEX file (0.9) located here:
http://www.g6lvb.com/Articles/LVBTracker/LVBTrack.hex

When programming, you should use the PICPROG.EXE v0.2 program
http://www.g6lvb.com/Articles/LVBTracker/PicProg.exe with the PIC in situ on
the board using a hardware (not USB virtual) serial port.

If, for some reason, you choose not to use PICPROG.EXE, you can use MPLAB
instead with a compatible programmer. Configure->Select Device as 16F876 or
16F876A device as appropriate, File->Import the hex file, and set
Configure->Configuration bits like this:

	// Default config bits...
	// Osc=XT, WDT off, PUT on, BOD off, LVP off, FPW on, DBG off, data
EE prot off, CodeProt off
	au16Data[0x2007]=0x3F31;

Check first with a 'scope that the crystal is oscillating. If it's not,
check the power on the chip. See if the reset button switches the the
oscillator off and on.

Also please check the 9 pin D type on the PCB itself is a socket, NOT a
plug! Even if you use a gender changer, it will not change the fact that if
you solder a plug and not a socket to the board, the pins 1,2,3,4,5 will end
up being 5,4,3,2,1 so your tracker will not work.

There is no echo from the LVB Tracker, emulating the exect function of a
real GS-232A. Hitting Enter (<CR> for us oldies) from a terminal emulator
should return a prompt though.

Regarding the LCD, do you get a top row of slightly dark blocks? Try
checking the contrast adjustment.

73, Howard G6LVB

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stefano Simonetti
Sent: 23 August 2009 10:40
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: lvb tracker circuit -- xtal?

Thanks to all for comments.

This evening I 'll try to re-flash PIC with the correct fuses, and try with
the 3,5...MHz XTAL I have, to obtain?at least LCD on.

The external flashing introduces another variable, right.

Ciao, Stefano.



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:42:17 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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On 24 Aug 2009 at 9:46, Robert Bruninga wrote:

> > I believe you are right, Bob.  The total
> > number of dissenting opinions at least on
> > the -bb have been few. ... I believe
> > the "silent majority" is behind AMSAT.
>
> Oh, by-the-way, I have received lots of private-off-BB email
> agreement.  Normally I reply to each such private email, but
> since there have been so many, I thought I would save time and
> thank those individuals all at once if the opportunity came up.
> They rightly didn't want to add any more emails to this
> burdensome thread that comes up every few months and then wastes
> everone's precious time...  So lets all hang in there, work the
> satellites, and work with groups that are building satellites,
> and contribute where we can... Or get out of the way.  Bob.

Quote

"based on your logic no criticism whatsoever is warranted." Yes it is
exactly what we all seen here from AMSAT-NA and by
some of their blinded supporter"

End of quote

Just look around some AMSAT-BB actual and past BOD members and you will have a
fairly good idea of this "lots of private-off-BB email
agreement." I.m also receiving a lot of commenting coming from the EU AMSAT
reflector and even some on the air! It's not a question of who
is supporting who but how to make a satellite association running who is
actually not working as per nominal parameters.

AMSAT-NA is unable to have any kind of evolution as it's core members are
always the same promoting always the same ideas to a point they
are and will be more and more unable to attract new officers and volunteers.

They are not even taking any lessons learn from the past. There is nothing to
be ashamed to be stupid but willingly accepting to remain
stupid is.




"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:15:36 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 VS
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On 24 Aug 2009 at 11:27, WB2LLP wrote:

> As a compromise, how about one week a month AO-51 is in VS and another it is
in LS?  This is a technical hobby, let us prove we can handle the challenge.
>
> 73 de WB2LLP  Gene
>
YES great idea i vote for it. It is hard to test our L and S band equipment
when we only have 4 to 5 days available sometimes not even a
week end period in this time frame and even if we get one rain often ruin the
whole thing.

"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:34:55 -0500
From: Andrew Koenig <ke5gdb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PE1RAH pictures from Ham Fair Tokyo
To: William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
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Do you happen to have any pictures of the Yaesu FTM-350?

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:31 AM, William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>wrote:

> Hi AMSATs,
>
> Please check the website of Alan, GM1SXX who has made a picture gallery for
> me of the pictures made at the Ham Fair in Tokyo.
>
> http://www.pe1rah.observations.biz/index.htm
>
> More pictures will follow, so check it up again, after some time.
>
> I have also seen the new ICOM 9100 at the ICOM booth on the Ham Fair here
> in Tokyo.
> The rig looks very nice, but when I asked some technical details they said
> that they still working on it and that it is not finished yet. The IC9100 on
> the booth was not RF operational (maybe reason why no mic was connected on
> it). It still has a nice look, and it would be a great rig to have in the
> future shack.
>
> My thanks to Alan, GM1SXX for making the picture gallery
>
> 73 de JA/PE1RAH,
>
> William Leijenaar in Tokyo.
> ---
>
>
>
>
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Andrew Koenig


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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:04:19 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MFJ/Cushcraft
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>> ... cushcraft serves their purpose,  they are the Walmart or Mc
Donalds of the antenna world ...

Cushcraft was never a "bargain basement" product, and was never
cutthroat with their pricing. Care in Q.C. and production methods were
always evident.

Comparing Cushcraft to Walmart (importer of cheap Chinese goods, and
lousy appreciation of their workforce) or McDonalds (mass production
of unhealthy foods, again unappreciative of their workforce) is rather
silly.

Just my opinion, of course.

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666


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