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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Semi-remoting the controller for a Yaesu G5400 (Jim Walls)
2. Re: Suitsat-2 costs (Rocky Jones)
3. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal) (Rocky Jones)
4. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS, MM (Kai Gunter Brandt)
5. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Simon (HB9DRV))
6. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Simon (HB9DRV))
7. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Jeff Yanko)
8. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Simon (HB9DRV))
9. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Jeff Yanko)
10. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Simon (HB9DRV))
11. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Jeff Yanko)
12. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Simon (HB9DRV))
13. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Jeff Yanko)
14. Re: Piraja's You Tube video (Dr. Jay Garlitz)
15. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal) (Jeff Davis)
16. Re: Piraja's You Tube video (Tim Lilley)
17. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal) (Bruce Robertson)
18. ZD8DC Active on FO-29 (Hal Lund ZS6WB)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:00:07 -0700
From: Jim Walls <jim@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Semi-remoting the controller for a Yaesu G5400
To: Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A8F5F37.7090905@xxxxx.xxx>
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Lowell White wrote:
> My Yaesu G-5400 rotor pair is about 150' from my shack.
>
> I am wanting to gauge the feasibility of putting the rotor controller within
> 100' (due to on-hand control cable lengths) of the antennas (in a garage).
>
> I would then run a separate (on-hand) PC-controller cable (fewer conductors
as
> using the DIN interface on the back of the controller) to the rotor
controller
> box from a PC and adapter / interface (if needed) in my shack (approx. 50').
>
> Is it crazy to consider or should I just pony up for more of the (dual)
rotor
> control cable and run the control box itself in my shack?
>
> What would I need to do at the PC end to appropriately 'signal' the
> 'semi-remote' control box.
>
I am making an assumption, that may not be the case. I am assuming that
there is a protected location closer to the tower. For example the
tower is next to the garage and the shack is in the house. If that is
the case, what I would do is run the remote control PC at the remote
location, and control it over your LAN with a remote desktop program
such as VNC (http://www.realvnc.com/). That does make the assumption
that you have an extra PC floating around, but for most of us the
question is not IF we have one, but rather which of of the several
should I use... It also assumes that you have a house LAN - although if
you don't, most PCs these days have a network connection already built
in so it would be easy to implement.
--
73
-------------------------------------
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@xxxxx.xxx
Ofc: 818-548-4804
http://home.earthlink.net/~k6ccc
AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:30:23 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Suitsat-2 costs
To: <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W52E1A952534B1C2A586E2ED6FB0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Drew
>
> The launch cost for Suitsat-2 will be zero for AMSAT. Nothing paid by AMSAT
> to Russia, nothing paid by AMSAT to NASA. Nothing.
>
> Launch cost for cubesats to LEO (600-800 km) is ~$70,000/kg. Suitsat-2 is
> over 20kg.
>
> I'll let each individual decide whether they think that's a deal or not.
> It's painfully obvious to me.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
>
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Thank you for the information.
I agree that launch cost will be nothing...can you say the same thing for the
integration and documentation cost? Since there isnt a final design for the
carrier I bet there is little idea of what those will be.
I bet you that before its over the "cost" are between 25000 and 50,000
thanks again for the information
73 Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:35:29 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal)
To: <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>, <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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> I offered three classes in a local Middle School after SS-1 was
> launched. The details were posted in this letter:
> http://128.54.16.15/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200602/msg00877.html As I
> noted then, it was a great success: the idea of communicating with an
> object pushed out of humanity's current only outpost in space was not
> lost to the students. I can honestly say that they found it
> considerably more engaging than other classes I have given on
> s
>
> 73, Bruce
> VE9QRP
Bruce...so we are doing satellites now for their educational not communicative
value?
Years ago when the twins were in High school they gave a demonstration to
their class of "chatting it up" with people in space, some of which they
latter got to come to their class (Houston) and have a follow up.
Proud parents aside...I dont see how the next one is going to be all that more
interesting then the "Sputnik" revival (which got little attention)...
and while NASA pushes the long term "invest in our youth" stick, they do it
because they have nothing else to sell.
sorry the "we have to look after the kids thing" doesnt impress me much (of
course now the twins are being slung off of the Ronald Reagan...)
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:30:13 +0200
From: Kai Gunter Brandt <kai.brandt@xxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS, MM
To: MM <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Tim Lilley <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A8F9E85.3040702@xxx.xxx.xx>
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MM wrote:
> Hi Tim:
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> I am always open to new ideas and I welcome your questions and observations.
> I plan on posting some suggestions on how to use the Existing Hardware on
ISS to try to please as many hams and SWL as possible.
>
> We can?t make everyone happy.
>
>
Just a few comments:
1. Drop the BBS packet system. Using APRS more people can use the system
and in multiple ways.
For me living in No(r)way using the BBS is probably not even able to
enter a message before ISS is "gone".
APRS i have much more success via ISS but as its not 24/7 i tend to
forget to check if it's active.
I have three passes where i can operate it but only one is a 80% success
as long as theres little traffic from europe.
24/7 as a APRS digipeater. Now people can send/receive messages i.e
using "ALL" "CQ" or BLN. You can send e-mail via ISS as long as a IGATE
hear the packet.
2. SSTV? yes more please. I have received a few of those images and this
is fun. More fun if the picture is live from both outside an inside.
I have used the VC-1 from Kenwood but also MixW. Is there other methods?
i.e like the weather sats?
3. The x-band on the TM-D700 is not the best thing. There are a few mods
for fixing the audio, not sure if this is enough.
Kai Gunter
LA3QMA
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:22:08 +0200
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: "Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E677B329215C41D6B937E2C52675B39E@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
It appears that it will - so it's a sort of IC-910H + HF radio in one box :)
Glad I didn't buy a new IC-910H,
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Not sure if this will be having the functions of 910H.
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:29:36 +0200
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <2C877E5219F647E1AE66A2ECFCD51D62@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
And here's a big shiny picture - note the Satellite button :)
http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic9100/IC-9100_prerelease.pdf
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
> It appears that it will - so it's a sort of IC-910H + HF radio in one box
> :)
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:38:03 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <72C712B7BF744B449D7838738BA4F058@xxxxxxxx>
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In line with the TS-2000(X). Not sure if it has the 6 meter band.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:29 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
> And here's a big shiny picture - note the Satellite button :)
>
> http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic9100/IC-9100_prerelease.pdf
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
>
>
>> It appears that it will - so it's a sort of IC-910H + HF radio in one box
>> :)
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:46:29 +0200
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <07130D63D2DD4EA0A94A6371E1787F88@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
It does - 1.8MHz to 70cms included, 23 cms optional (no 70MHz or 220MHz
though).
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
To: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> In line with the TS-2000(X). Not sure if it has the 6 meter band.
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:55:09 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <2E171BE7FA7541F28566D9E402A980F6@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
FB. No 220 mHz on the TS-2000 either, but 50 mHz is included. So the
IC-9100 pretty much is a shack in a box, just lacking 50 mHz. Not a bad
setup.
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
To: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
> It does - 1.8MHz to 70cms included, 23 cms optional (no 70MHz or 220MHz
> though).
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
> To: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>
>
>> In line with the TS-2000(X). Not sure if it has the 6 meter band.
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:04:38 +0200
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <AD9E32CFD9B746D084ED18F7B1847490@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
Sorry - misunderstanding, it *does* have 50MHz.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
> FB. No 220 mHz on the TS-2000 either, but 50 mHz is included. So the
> IC-9100 pretty much is a shack in a box, just lacking 50 mHz. Not a bad
> setup.
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:10:12 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <8F5565B3E3BC41BDB6C641E68132F4D7@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
FB on 50 Mhz. Is the 70 mHz band used more in the European ham theatre?
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
To: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
> Sorry - misunderstanding, it *does* have 50MHz.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
>
>
>> FB. No 220 mHz on the TS-2000 either, but 50 mHz is included. So the
>> IC-9100 pretty much is a shack in a box, just lacking 50 mHz. Not a bad
>> setup.
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:13:34 +0200
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <25C3D551158F4BFF956E05C4CAD51D70@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
70MHz is used but 50MHz is much more common.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
> FB on 50 Mhz. Is the 70 mHz band used more in the European ham theatre?
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:17:58 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <D87513750DA84085BEFAC5CF43EE26B2@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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OK. Wasn't sure of the VHF bands available in Europe. 70 mHz always stuck
in my mind because I recall seeing it occasionally on the European Packet
Clusters. At first, I kept thinking somebody is typing in the wrong
frequency. I guess not!
73,
Jeff WB3JFS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
To: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
> 70MHz is used but 50MHz is much more common.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
>
>
>> FB on 50 Mhz. Is the 70 mHz band used more in the European ham theatre?
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:14:37 -0400
From: "Dr. Jay Garlitz" <drjay@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Piraja's You Tube video
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<200908221014.n7MAEcZp000998@xxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
If you have not watched (PS8RF) Piraja's video of the audio received from
ZS2ACP on AO-7 do not miss it. It is an excellent presentation and hopefully
will encourage others to work AO-7 DX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meMa0zz5v4k
73, Jay, AA4FL
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:53:11 +0000
From: Jeff Davis <ke9v@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20090822115311.GC11184@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:35:29PM -0500, Rocky Jones wrote:
>
> Bruce...so we are doing satellites now for their educational not
communicative value?
Why not?
If it isn't obvious to *everyone* yet, the world of amateur satellites is
changing. It isn't like
this is the script we would have chosen for this movie, but it is the hand we
are being dealt. The
days when an AMSAT member could get us a cheap/free ride through his
"employer" are about as distant
as the Pony Express and we would do well to accept that, tough as it may be to
swallow.
I realize that much of the AMSAT brain trust has long-ago fled this list, but
the bottom line is
that the organization needs to fix the still broken and misleading mission
statement, and we all
need to look for new and *interesting* things to do at LEO. And that doesn't
always require two-way
communication to be successful. In case you haven't noticed, some of the more
interesting things in
ham radio these days don't necessarily require two-way comms -- like WSPR.
We are of course radio hams, and we want to play with our radios, but AMSAT
has always been about
more than that of necessity. Best I recall, our most talented satellite
builders from back in the
day had little or no interest in radio -- they were interested in building
satellites.
Frankly, my interest in AMSAT is that it serves to connect me with space. Be
that downloading
telemetry from a Cubesat, downloading on orbit pictures, making a few contacts
with an FM repeater
in LEO, working the ISS and talking to an astronaut -- reading the AMSAT
Journal and learning more
about all these things, and attending conferences where we get to meet like
minded souls and share
ideas and notions about space late into the night over a cold beer...
If I were a billionaire, I would love to donate the funds so we could have a
global network of
amateur satellites at HEO. But I'm not and so far none have come along and
made that offer.
Lacking that, or the ability to get that, if I want to talk to my friends on
another continent I use
Skype and the sun still comes up every morning. We aren't going back to HEO
and we likely aren't
going to raise enough funds to build a highly sophisticated LEO craft.
But we have an excellent model for the cards we've been handed in this second
decade of the 21st
century in the Cubesats. They are relatively inexpensive to build and launch,
and with a little
effort we can get Universities to build and launch them for us, and if one
launch fails we don't
lose the entire freaking farm.
There are only two things we lack: the imagination required to come up with
truly innovative and
interesting things to do with them, and the ability to jettison this member
fetish for an HEO
dream that will not come to pass for at least two more decades, and maybe
never.
--
Jeff, KE9V
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:22:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim Lilley <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Piraja's You Tube video
To: drjay@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <511438.13917.qm@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Yes, indeed - this one is a keeper!
Thanks to Piraja for taking the time to put togther this presentation. I hope
everyone takes a minute to check it out.
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
________________________________
From: Dr. Jay Garlitz <drjay@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:14:37 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Piraja's You Tube video
If you have not watched (PS8RF) Piraja's video of the audio received from
ZS2ACP on AO-7 do not miss it. It is an excellent presentation and hopefully
will encourage others to work AO-7 DX:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meMa0zz5v4k
73, Jay, AA4FL
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:52:29 -0300
From: Bruce Robertson <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (rebuttal)
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Rocky Jones<orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>
>> I offered three classes in a local Middle School after SS-1 was
>> launched. The details were posted in this letter:
>> http://128.54.16.15/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200602/msg00877.html As I
>> noted then, it was a great success: the idea of communicating with an
>> object pushed out of humanity's current only outpost in space was not
>> lost to the students. I can honestly say that they found it
>> considerably more engaging than other classes I have given on
>> s
>>
>> 73, Bruce
>> VE9QRP
>
> Bruce...so we are doing satellites now for their educational not
> communicative value?
Rocky --
Thanks for your reply. I think you are positing a false dichotomy: I
hadn't meant to suggest that these goals are exclusive. In fact, I
hoped I'd suggested that the communication role of the bird would
enhance its educative one. Moreover I'm likely to spend an order of
magnitude more time communicating through SS-2 than teaching by means
of it. I was responding to the implication in the original post that
SS-2 would lack educational purpose.
> Years ago when the twins were in High school they gave a demonstration to
> their class of? "chatting it up" with people in space, some of which they
> latter got to come to their class (Houston) and have a follow up.
>
> Proud parents aside...I dont see how the next one is going to be all that
> more interesting then the "Sputnik" revival (which got little attention)...
I guess I was trying to give experience-based evidence to the
contrary: SS-1 was, as I said, *very* popular with the kids when I
used it as a means of supplementing our province's gr. 7/8 orbital
mechanics and radio theory. I expect SS-2 to be equally so.
> and while NASA pushes the long term "invest in our youth" stick, they do it
> because they have nothing else to sell.
>
> sorry the "we have to look after the kids thing" doesnt impress me much (of
> course now the twins are being slung off of the Ronald Reagan...)
You obviously have more experience and knowledge of the inner workings
of NASA than I do. I don't mean to make a larger argument on behalf of
it, or any such slogan above. Rather, I was just attempting to rebut
the contention that SS-2 will have little educative value.
73, Bruce
VE9QRP
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:26:19 +0200
From: "Hal Lund ZS6WB" <zs6wb@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ZD8DC Active on FO-29
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Dean, ZD8DC is currently active from Ascension Island on FO-29 and possibly
also AO-51 and SO-50.
So far he has been worked in South Africa on FO-29 by ZS1LS and ZS6WB. In
both cases the contact has been on a weekend morning ascending pass when he
was heard calling CQ around 435.843 MHz SSB.
His activity will probably be mostly on weekends as he works during the week
but he could have some good common windows on FO-29 into Africa, South
America and Western Europe.
If you are in these areas watch for him especially on 23-29-30 August. He
will complete his work assignment on Ascension and return to the U.S. on 02
September.
Hal ZS6WB
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