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Today's Topics:
1. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Simon (HB9DRV))
2. Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio (Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG])
3. Fwd: PARACHUTE MOBILE 1.2 GHz FM this Sunday 1280.225
(Fabiano Moser)
4. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Rocky Jones)
5. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Andrew Glasbrenner)
6. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Ben Jackson)
7. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Andrew Glasbrenner)
8. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Tim Lilley)
9. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Rocky Jones)
10. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Rocky Jones)
11. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Bill Ress)
12. Difference between Yaesu G5400, G5600 and G5500 (PE0SAT)
13. Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS (Rocky Jones)
14. Semi-remoting the controller for a Yaesu G5400 (Lowell White)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:24:24 +0200
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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By the looks of the front panel I think it'll offer the same features for
satellites as the IC-910H.
We should know a lot more after the weekend show in Japan.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxx.xxx>
>
> Will it do full duplex for the satellites, or dual receive?
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:04:34 -0700
From: "Nitin Muttin [VU3TYG]" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
To: Simon HB9DRV <simon@xxxxxx.xx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Not sure if this will be having the functions of 910H.
73's
Nitin [VU3TYG]
--------- Original Message --------
From: Simon HB9DRV <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New ICOM VHF / UHF / SHF Radio
Date: 08/20/09 11:59 AM"
> By the looks of the front panel I think it'll offer the same features for
> satellites as the IC-910H.
>
> We should know a lot more after the weekend show in Japan.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxx.xxxxxxx
> >
> > Will it do full duplex for the satellites, or dual receive?
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:48:34 +0100
From: Fabiano Moser <fabianomoser@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: PARACHUTE MOBILE 1.2 GHz FM this Sunday
1280.225
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Date: 2009/8/20
Subject: [AlincoDJ-G7] PARACHUTE MOBILE 1.2 GHz FM this Sunday 1280.225
To: AlincoDJ-G7@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Mark AF6IM and Michael KF6WRW will be skydiving at Byron CA this Sunday and
will do some HAHO (high altitude high opening) jumps to give us enough time
to do ham radio comms. Jump altitudes will be approx 14,000 ft. We will not
be using oxygen gear.
These are practice jumps for the big event planned for October, HF radio
HAHO jumps at an altitude of 18,000 to 24,000 feet depending on FAA
clearances and conflicting air traffic. We are using these practice jumps to
work out kinks in mounting, mics, noise cancellation, headphones etc. and
just getting used to flying our ram air ("square") chutes and communicating
simultaneously.
I plan to operate on the 1282.225 MHz repeater for at least one jump. I will
announce about a half hour pre jump as I can reach ths repeater from the
ground in Byron.
Jon, K6OJ, our crew chief, will be on the ground at Byron and will
coordinate some 2 meter simplex comms for me. Details to follow. I will call
Michael KI6QNZ by phone from Byron to give him an ETA on jump times Sunday.
He has volunteered to put out the info on the N6NFI repeater 145.230 which
we cannot reach from the ground in Byron.
We would like to use APRS for more than just position reporting on our later
jumps. Relatively cheap pulse oximeters now have USB output. We'd like to
have APRS report our blood oxygen levels and pulse rates to our ground crew.
If we have oxygen system failures we may not be able to recognize them
ourselves due to hypoxia. Ground controllers could detect it and try to
inform us by radio. Even if we did not hear or understand the radio
warnings, the ground crew could at least see our altitude, heading and speed
and dead reckon where we might be landing in an impaired state. The ground
crew could dispatch resources to our predicted landing area which could be
miles away from the DZ. From 24,000 feet in calm air, we can glide about 15
miles horizontally, much more if we are running downwind. Garmin 350s (or
the more expensive Kenwood APRS GPS plotters) interfaced to APRS could prove
very useful. On these recent practice jumps we had winds up to 20 knots at
the higher altitudes and had to fly into the wind to maintain position over
the DZ while descending.
We'd also like the ground crew to help us calculate winds aloft (speed and
direction) during our jumps. If we make a constant rate turn of 360 degrees,
our ground track in calm air will be a perfect circle. If there are winds
aloft, the circle will be distorted. We should show a peak in groundspeed
when running directly downwind during the turns. It is too complicated to do
the figuring under canopy, but pretty easy for a trained ground crew. We
will need quite a few people because there are so many different tasks to do
during the jump. Jon K6OJ will be determining resource needs and
allocations. I am sure he will welcome volunteers.
The October jumps were originally scheduled for Monterey (Marina airport)
but we are considering Byron too. In the event of an oxygen failure, an
uncontrolled parachute could head FAR out to sea (over 15 miles) from our
planned altitudes if we jumped at Marina. Byron has its own nearby hazards:
windmill farms, high voltage towers and lines, canals and lakes, etc. We are
balancing the risks and still deciding. Byron is a bit closer to our ham
community. Monterey offers incredible aerial scenery. We will carry
floatation gear no matter where we jump, but a far offshore ocean landing
could prove fatal due to hypothermia even if afloat. if we choose Monterey
we may wear anti exposure jumpsuits. I have some surplus ones used by flight
crews. VERY uncomfortable (basically a drysuit) but better safe than sorry.
Anyone out there have the expertise to interface a pulse oximeter with APRS
to report blood oxygen levels?
We'd also like to get ATV coverage of the October HF jumps and maybe even
some of the practice jumps. I'd be willing to fly a video camera and ATV
xmtr, but dont have any gear. Any ideas? My nmail address is below.
LOTS to do in advance of our October jumps. Any help or suggestions would be
greatly appreciated. I will also have a portable ADF ready for October for
the use of our ground crew. Additional DF resources will be welcomed. I will
carry a VHF location beacon, probably on 121.7 MHZ AM and an emergency
beacon on 121.5 MHz AM to be activated if in distress.
73,
Mark
AF6IM
af6im@xxxx.xxx <af6im%40arrl.net>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:28:03 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Tim....and others
I would just like to know what Suitsat2 has cost so far and what it is likely
to cost to get it to orbit including integration cost.
In my viewpoint the project is typical of what AMSAT NA has been doing lately,
which is a lot of ground development work on making projects "advanced" all
the while we rely on a satellite AO7 which we apparently cannot build a
replacement for.
I notice that none of the board members who are on this forum are jumping up
to say what Suitsat2 is and will cost.
Robert WB5MZO Amsat life member
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:57:49 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: "Rocky Jones" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Well, most of the BOD knows a roll in the mud when they see it. I sometimes
lack that ability. No one has asked directly either, I'm busy enough that I
don't read the -bb everyday.
I'm working on getting an exact number, but it is at least an order of
magnitude less than it would cost to build another AO-7 or even another
AO-51 (which gets 10x the use of AO-7).
73, Drew KO4MA
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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:28 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
Tim....and others
I would just like to know what Suitsat2 has cost so far and what it is
likely to cost to get it to orbit including integration cost.
In my viewpoint the project is typical of what AMSAT NA has been doing
lately, which is a lot of ground development work on making projects
"advanced" all the while we rely on a satellite AO7 which we apparently
cannot build a replacement for.
I notice that none of the board members who are on this forum are jumping up
to say what Suitsat2 is and will cost.
Robert WB5MZO Amsat life member
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:02:06 -0400
From: Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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Rocky Jones wrote:
> In my viewpoint the project is typical of what AMSAT NA has been
> doing lately, which is a lot of ground development work on making
> projects "advanced" all the while we rely on a satellite AO7 which we
> apparently cannot build a replacement for.
I would wager that if SuitlessSat2 goes up (and I pray that it does) it
will have much more use then AO-7 in the same time period.
SuitSat was a major PR success for AMSAT and ARISS. More then a few
"hacker"/"maker" podcasts/radio shows I listened to plugged the project
and amateur radio which you don't see that much. I would say that if
SSTV was put into the ISS, it would not receive the same coverage.
The perfect is the enemy of the good. While it would be great if we had
a ride for an HEO sat, an ability to get a higher-orbit LEO sat, and,
while we're at it, everyone a pony and a puppy, it isn't going to
happen. Lets focus on what we can do rather then bog ourselves down in
something that we might be able to do if we are lucky.
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Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:09:12 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: "Ben Jackson" <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Rocky Jones"
<orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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Ben, well said! I think you'll find the same sentiments spreading across
many of the BOD and officers over the last year or so. I expect the
Symposium this year is where much will be explained.
Launch costs are about 80 to 90% of a project, and in the case of the
Suitsat2, practically 0%. We'd be foolish not to take that and run.
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Jackson" <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Rocky Jones" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
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> Rocky Jones wrote:
>
>> In my viewpoint the project is typical of what AMSAT NA has been
>> doing lately, which is a lot of ground development work on making
>> projects "advanced" all the while we rely on a satellite AO7 which we
>> apparently cannot build a replacement for.
>
> I would wager that if SuitlessSat2 goes up (and I pray that it does) it
> will have much more use then AO-7 in the same time period.
>
> SuitSat was a major PR success for AMSAT and ARISS. More then a few
> "hacker"/"maker" podcasts/radio shows I listened to plugged the project
> and amateur radio which you don't see that much. I would say that if
> SSTV was put into the ISS, it would not receive the same coverage.
>
> The perfect is the enemy of the good. While it would be great if we had
> a ride for an HEO sat, an ability to get a higher-orbit LEO sat, and,
> while we're at it, everyone a pony and a puppy, it isn't going to
> happen. Lets focus on what we can do rather then bog ourselves down in
> something that we might be able to do if we are lucky.
>
> - --
> Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:11:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim Lilley <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Ben Jackson
<bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>, Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Amen ... to you and to Ben.
Thanks to you both,
Tim - N3TL
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From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>; Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:09:12 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
Ben, well said! I think you'll find the same sentiments spreading across
many of the BOD and officers over the last year or so. I expect the
Symposium this year is where much will be explained.
Launch costs are about 80 to 90% of a project, and in the case of the
Suitsat2, practically 0%. We'd be foolish not to take that and run.
73, Drew KO4MA
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From: "Ben Jackson" <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Rocky Jones" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
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> Rocky Jones wrote:
>
>> In my viewpoint the project is typical of what AMSAT NA has been
>> doing lately, which is a lot of ground development work on making
>> projects "advanced" all the while we rely on a satellite AO7 which we
>> apparently cannot build a replacement for.
>
> I would wager that if SuitlessSat2 goes up (and I pray that it does) it
> will have much more use then AO-7 in the same time period.
>
> SuitSat was a major PR success for AMSAT and ARISS. More then a few
> "hacker"/"maker" podcasts/radio shows I listened to plugged the project
> and amateur radio which you don't see that much. I would say that if
> SSTV was put into the ISS, it would not receive the same coverage.
>
> The perfect is the enemy of the good. While it would be great if we had
> a ride for an HEO sat, an ability to get a higher-orbit LEO sat, and,
> while we're at it, everyone a pony and a puppy, it isn't going to
> happen. Lets focus on what we can do rather then bog ourselves down in
> something that we might be able to do if we are lucky.
>
> - --
> Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:19:00 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <COL106-W347CD538BE219C9F3C12C5D6FC0@xxx.xxx>
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Ben
>
> I would wager that if SuitlessSat2 goes up (and I pray that it does) it
> will have much more use then AO-7 in the same time period.
that assumes it works. The track record is "less"
>
> SuitSat was a major PR success for AMSAT and ARISS. More then a few
> "hacker"/"maker" podcasts/radio shows I listened to plugged the project
> and amateur radio which you don't see that much. I would say that if
> SSTV was put into the ISS, it would not receive the same coverage.
Suitsat 1 got the internet buzz because of its uniqueness. I doubt that a
"non suitsat" ie a satellite launched much like the Russians did their redo of
Sputnik would get the same internet buzz...
But back to "PR" success...what does that mean exactly? Did it translate into
a "bump" in amateur license applications (I dont know maybe it did) did it
change anything really? Or did it just get a lot of "buzz" and then nothing?
PR in spaceflight is a funny thing. Space advocates all around the world are
stymied that things happen in human spaceflight and well there is not a lot of
PR...they all think it should be just like Apollo where the entire world came
to a halt as various events happened. Many (and I mean many) years ago when I
was playing High School football we were on our way ultimately to state (and
in Texas that is not a minor thing) but on the way we were getting beat by the
cellar team of our city (Dallas) division.
The coach made a player substitute and the guy who came in brought a clipping
that the coach had given him from the DAllas morning news a few days earlier
which was a nice spread about the team. "Coach says give this story to the
guys who are whipping your (three letter word)"
I am not sure that the PR in ham radio has all that much "value" compared to
functioning satellites
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:21:06 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <COL106-W43AB227DAC5B04AAC26944D6FC0@xxx.xxx>
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>
> Launch costs are about 80 to 90% of a project, and in the case of the
> Suitsat2, practically 0%. We'd be foolish not to take that and run.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
Drew. I am sure that the "launch cost" from NASA are zero.
I bet that the integration cost are not.
Is it an unreasonable question to ask what the cost of the project are?
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:44:30 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Rocky,
Your question regarding SuitSat costs are not unreasonable and I trust
your question will be answered shortly. When you have the cost
information what then? The likely next argument is whether the
"investment" is a good one or a bad one. The PR argument is an abstract
- hard to quantify the results - good or bad. So lets consider this....
1) It doesn't cost us to "launch" a SuitSat (or whatever it will now be
called) and I strongly favor participating in ANY free launch. The costs
are material (and much has been donated by Microchip and the Russians),
travel, meetings, preparation for launch, etc. Of course - the all
volunteer labor is FREE.
2) The SuitSat type of free launch will be ongoing with several more
similar orbit opportunities in the future (i.e. - launch from the ISS),
and that's a real and "good" thing.
3) The new SuitSat is one sassy little satellite with some really neat
features. I believe a satellite with its features in orbit for 6 plus
months is much better than not having a satellite of its design in orbit.
4) We will have learned a lot getting it designed, built and launched
and this will all support AMSAT's "modularization" concept initiated in
Atlanta 2008, which in turn supports our next non-SuitSat opportunity.
So from my perspective - not a bad investment!
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
Rocky Jones wrote:
>
>> Launch costs are about 80 to 90% of a project, and in the case of the
>> Suitsat2, practically 0%. We'd be foolish not to take that and run.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> Drew. I am sure that the "launch cost" from NASA are zero.
>
> I bet that the integration cost are not.
>
> Is it an unreasonable question to ask what the cost of the project are?
>
> Robert WB5MZO
>
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:46:06 +0200
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Difference between Yaesu G5400, G5600 and G5500
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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I looked at Google but couldn't find the answer to this question.
The reason for asking is?
I have a 5600 controller and a G-400 rotor and this isn't working because
I think of the fact that there is no C between the two AC lines within the
5600 controller that supply the rotor with AC, and within the G-600
controller there is.
The elevation rotor is a KR-500 and KR-500 controller is the same
situation.
Are there special rotors for the 5600 controller? I can't imagine that
yaesu made special one's for this controller.
So my question, what are the differences between 5400/5600, 5500, 400 and
500. And is there a way to connect them to the 5600 controller so I can
finaly use my LVB tracker :-)
Any help is appreciated.
73's Jan - PE0SAT
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:03:53 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Don't Fly SuitSat2 to ISS
To: <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W120CB8CC48870DB69BAC86D6FC0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Bill.
The question is cost vrs value.
First off there is almost nothing "free" on the spacestation. The launch
might be, but the devil is in the integration details and cost. I dont know
what those were for Suitsat1 nor do I know what they are for Suitsat 2 (or sat
without the suit)...but the instant the "astronauts" get involved in any
substantive manner the cost go up very very quickly.
Then the next question is "is it worth" whatever the cost are? That is a
value judgment and in my view has to be weighed with a lot of factors
particularly when funds are limited.
Was Oscar 40 worth it? A lot was bet on that satellite, had it worked (or if
it was still working) then the value might have approached the cost...as it
was well it is hard to argue that the cost put into it was worth what was
gotten out of it. Suitsat 1 was a simple satellite that didnt work, the
answer is to try a more complicated one?
I am quite certain that the "individual" cost of Suitsat 1 and Suitsat 2 are
less then the cost of "doing another AO-7 but things add up and the cost of
two or three or four of these projects might eventually add up to an AO-7 or
helping 3E get off the ground.
The Russians have a saying "If you (Urinate...they use a different word) into
your boot then for a bit you are warmer, and then you are colder and wonder
why you did it" (OK I cleaned it up).
Put another way? Are you happy with the current state of the satellite
constellation?
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:21:31 -0500
From: "Lowell White" <whiteld@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Semi-remoting the controller for a Yaesu G5400
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <117NHuRuf5754S01.1250875291@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx>
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My Yaesu G-5400 rotor pair is about 150' from my shack.
I am wanting to gauge the feasibility of putting the rotor controller within
100' (due to on-hand control cable lengths) of the antennas (in a garage).
I would then run a separate (on-hand) PC-controller cable (fewer conductors as
using the DIN interface on the back of the controller) to the rotor controller
box from a PC and adapter / interface (if needed) in my shack (approx. 50').
Is it crazy to consider or should I just pony up for more of the (dual) rotor
control cable and run the control box itself in my shack?
What would I need to do at the PC end to appropriately 'signal' the
'semi-remote' control box.
Ideas?
Thanks,
Lowell
K9LDW
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