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Today's Topics:
1. AO-51 V/S (w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxxx
2. ISS future? (Randy)
3. Re: AO-27 (Rodney Waln)
4. Re: ISS future? (Rocky Jones)
5. Re: ISS future? (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
6. Re: ISS future? (Rocky Jones)
7. Re: ISS future? (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
8. Re: ISS future? (Rocky Jones)
9. Re: ISS future? (Joe)
10. PowerPoint Presentations (Clint BRADFORD)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:07:10 +0000 (UTC)
From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 V/S
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This last pass on '51 was notable for almost lack of fading!? At least from
Seattle.? I did some tweeking on the LVB tracker, adjusting in 3 degree
increments.? Super strong signals on the S band downlink.? The usual list of
culprits were in attendance. ?Is there anyone in KL7 that has S band
capability?
73 Bob W7LRD
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:23:20 -0400
From: "Randy" <RSwart1@xxxxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS future?
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""" We have 5-6 years left of ISS. We need to make the best of what little
time we have left. Everyone needs to work harder, better and faster. I
would hate to see those remaining 11 unused antennas go to waste when ISS
burns up."""
Ok , label me ignorant .. But is it that difficult to boost its orbit? I
guess I need a techie explaination ..
Heck .. If its going to just burn up .. Then just before it gets to the
point off no return, then take those
Huge solar panels to the moon .. LOL or take some of the modules to the
moon ..
Whats going to replace the space station? The lunar base?
Anyways... Someone explain to me please lol
Cheers
Randy - N2CUA
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rodney Waln <kc0zhf@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27
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i am not sure, you should be able to do good with your elevation there,
if you are putting any power out a all, 1 watt plus you should be doing good,
i have worked it with my FT-50 and the ducky, is your transmit power ok,
or do you have some local qrm from the AF base??
?
try to program in terry peak repeater 147.030 + 146.2pl
and if you can hit that from your location
you should?able to?do all the FM sats, if that helps,
at least see if your TX is ok,
Rodney
kc0zhf
?
?
?
?
>Am I doing something wrong or is AO-27 just very hard to hit with a
>FT-60R? handheld, and ELK ant?? I have no problems hearing it but
>working it is another thing!!
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:54:19 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?
To: <rswart1@xxxxx.xx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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> From: RSwart1@xxxxx.xx.xxx
>
> Ok , label me ignorant .. But is it that difficult to boost its orbit? I
> guess I need a techie explaination ..
> Heck .. If its going to just burn up .. Then just before it gets to the
> point off no return, then take those
> Huge solar panels to the moon .. LOL or take some of the modules to the
> moon ..
>
> Whats going to replace the space station? The lunar base?
>
> Anyways... Someone explain to me please lol
>
> Cheers
>
> Randy - N2CUA
Randy. ISS is not going to just "burn up". ISS is an "engine" and that
engine requires federal US dollars to keep running. NASA having just about
finished ISS has no idea of what to do with it, and wants to move on to the
next grand project. Sadly for them in this time of 1.6 trillion deficts there
is no more money for "the next logical step" and so they are forced to find
dollars somewhere else...and for them that means shutting down ISS.
NASA isnt going back to the Moon and they are not going to get to shut ISS
down. It will be around for a very long time.
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:02:36 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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NASA's lack of money or commitment doesn't prevent the other countries in the
consortium from using the station past
NASAs cut off date. It doesn't have to die just because the US say so.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:45:49 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?
To: <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: rswart1@xxxxx.xx.xxxx Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:02:36 +0000
> From: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
>
> NASA's lack of money or commitment doesn't prevent the other countries in
the consortium from using the station past
> NASAs cut off date. It doesn't have to die just because the US say so.
>
As a practical matter if the US were to pull out of ISS the station would not
be viable. Most if not all of the major support hardware (solar arrays etc)
are US built and maintained..without US involvement the TDRSS system
disappears for instance..The "bucks" required to maintain the station are
enormous...
It doesnt matter because anyone who thinks that the political system in the US
would allow spending almost 100 billion to build ISS then chunking it after 5
years of "use" doesnt understand US politics...ISS will be around for a very
long time.
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:57:38 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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I think you are somewhat misguided if you believe that the US is the only
country with satallite communications systems
or solar voltaic panel production facilities.
Rocky Jones wrote:
Most if not all of the major support hardware
> (solar arrays etc) are US built and maintained..without US involvement
> the TDRSS system disappears for instance..The "bucks" required to
> maintain the station are enormous...
>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:09:41 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?
To: <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: rswart1@xxxxx.xx.xxxx Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:57:38 +0000
> From: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
> To: orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx
> CC: rswart1@xxxxx.xx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?
>
> I think you are somewhat misguided if you believe that the US is the only
country with satallite communications systems
> or solar voltaic panel production facilities.
>
did not say that...
but ISS stuff is "unique"...and US pockets are (so far) deep...NASA spends
more to maintain the space station then Europe and Japans human space budget
combined.
it is a money pit
Robert WB5MZO
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:01:04 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS future?
To: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: rswart1@xxxxx.xx.xxxx Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Really!
I'd like to see where in the states solar panels are being made? Other
than some new technologies that have just started up, 90% or more and
I'm thinking 90% is way LOW anyway panels are made in Japan or China
right now.
Joe WB9SBD
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>I think you are somewhat misguided if you believe that the US is the only
country with satallite communications systems
>or solar voltaic panel production facilities.
>
>Rocky Jones wrote:
> Most if not all of the major support hardware
>
>
>>(solar arrays etc) are US built and maintained..without US involvement
>>the TDRSS system disappears for instance..The "bucks" required to
>>maintain the station are enormous...
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:11:28 -0700
From: Clint BRADFORD <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PowerPoint Presentations
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As PowerPoint turns twenty-five, some tips on making more effective
presentations - from the BBC ,,,
http://tinyurl.com/mohy2y
Clint Bradford
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