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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Elk on tower (Reicher, James)
2. Re: HRD software question (Tim Lilley)
3. Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only 8k (Trevor .)
4. Re: Elk on tower (Joe)
5. HRD software question (PE0SAT)
6. Re: HRD software question (Simon (HB9DRV))
7. Antenna project with 2 ELK antennas (Jean-Fran?ois M?nard)
8. Re: Elk on tower (Rodney Waln)
9. Fantastic photo of ISS+Endeavor in front of the sun!
(Tom Clark, K3IO)
10. Re: DJ-G7T experiences (Alan P. Biddle)
11. Re: HRD software question (PE0SAT)
12. Is HRD Version 5 Released yet? (Randy)
13. Elk antenna on tower (Jerry Felts)
14. Re: Elk antenna on tower (Rodney Waln)
15. Re: Elk antenna on tower (w4upd)
16. Re: Elk antenna on tower (Joe)
17. Re: Elk on tower (George Henry)
18. Update on my Saturday DM54/DM55 trip
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
19. New satellite rigs? (John Geiger)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:03:52 -0500
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Elk on tower
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
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You may do it on the tower, but here in Missouri, we usually mount our
Elk over the fireplace. :)
73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO
Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear
bright until you hear them speak.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:23:11 -0600
From: Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Elk on tower
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<21baf9ff0908061023o343d3c3ax8c71451893599770@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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How far away from the mast on my tower should I mount my Elk?? The
mast is 2" steal anf the lk will be mounted horiz at a 15 deg angle.
--
Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota
http://nr5abikeblog.blogspot.com/
http://nr5abeaconblog.blogspot.com/
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim Lilley <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
To: david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxx "Simon \(HB9DRV\)"
<simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Simon,
?
I will be thrilled if you are able to get the Doppler-tuning function to work
with stability on a netbook with an Intel Atom processor driving an 8.9-inch
screen (the one built in to my Acer Aspire One). :)
?
Tim - N3TL
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Simon (HB9DRV) <simon@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
From: Simon (HB9DRV) <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
To: david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:47 PM
Well,
When I get to this stage I will offer to help anyone using teamview - I did
this yesterday with a beta-tester in Holland and in just a few minutes found
a serious resource leak. The main problem with netbooks is the graphics chip
isn't too fast, but I do have some poor code in the satellite tracking
anyway :)
My general aim is to be able to run HRD 5.0 on a netbook driving a 24"
display.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
> That's excellent news, most encouraging.? Wish I was able to do more to
> assist.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:27:10 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only 8k
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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> I find it rather hard to believe that even?the launch vehicle
> would only cost US$240K per flight.
Hi Richard,
But why should a low mass launch cost more than say $100k a time, particularly
if it's only an "atmosphere skimmer" ?
We are used to Government run high-cost space operations, there are other ways
of doing things. Personally I'm skeptical about the Tonga operation. From
their website they appear desperate for money, not a good sign when they
haven't even got a launcher. But others will resolve the issues and I look
forward to the day in maybe 15-20 years when we have dozens of free enterprise
launch companies around the world.
The funeral market is potentially massive. I reckon each year tens (if not
hundreds) of thousands of people worldwide would fork out $10k for part of
their ashes to be sent out into space and then burn up in the atmosphere, with
of course an artists impression picture of their re-entry sent to their
nearest and dearest.
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:17:08 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Elk on tower
To: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A7B3A44.1060303@xxx.xxx>
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Ours usually tend to run in front of cars.
Reicher, James wrote:
>You may do it on the tower, but here in Missouri, we usually mount our
>Elk over the fireplace. :)
>
>73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO
>Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear
>bright until you hear them speak.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:23:11 -0600
>From: Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Elk on tower
>To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>Message-ID:
> <21baf9ff0908061023o343d3c3ax8c71451893599770@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>How far away from the mast on my tower should I mount my Elk?? The
>mast is 2" steal anf the lk will be mounted horiz at a 15 deg angle.
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:38:31 +0200
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD software question
To: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Simon,
Let me begin with saying that I love your software. The only thing I mis
is a clear piece of documentation. For exmaple I am wondering what the
difference in behavior is between repeater/split and liniear inv. I have
asked this question on this email list and also on the HRD forum but no
satisfying anwer.
I also visited the wiki page but there also no answer.
Can you answer this question? I can imagine that there is a difference
in split versus liniear inv with regard to doppler behavior.
Hope to hear from you.
Jan PE0SAT
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:40:30 +0200
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
To: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <F0B35A46B9E24C23893D3D2CC864FEE2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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reply-type=original
Hi,
Repeater is FM (AO-51), linear inverting is SSB (VO-52), Split is ISS when
on FM.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
>
> Let me begin with saying that I love your software. The only thing I mis
> is a clear piece of documentation. For exmaple I am wondering what the
> difference in behavior is between repeater/split and liniear inv. I have
> asked this question on this email list and also on the HRD forum but no
> satisfying anwer.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:44:26 -0400
From: Jean-Fran?ois M?nard <jf.va2ss@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna project with 2 ELK antennas
To: AMSAT Mailing list <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4A7B40AA.10407@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi,
I have 2 ELK antennas here, and I would like to do an experiment with
these two antennas. I would like to stack side by side, one vertical,
and one horizontal.
My question, what would be the distance between both antenna !?!?!
I will be using PVC tube to avoid interaction.
The phasing line... will it be hard to figure how to do it !?!?!?
Any rough guess to start with. I have an antenna analyzer here...
probably will be handy for that project.
I just want to experiment how good it could perform.
Any help would be appreciated.
73
--
Jean-Fran?ois M?nard
VA2SS
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rodney Waln <kc0zhf@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Elk on tower
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <70834.9418.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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hi, i would say about about 6" to one foot should be good,
from the longest element?horizontal or 6" vertical mounting,
all jokeing aside,
Rodney
kc0zhf?
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:03:16 -0400
From: "Tom Clark, K3IO" <tom.k3io@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fantastic photo of ISS+Endeavor in front of the
sun!
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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/Thierry Legault/ is a French amateur astronomy who is well-known for
his incredible astronomical photos. Hr has posted a great photo of the
ISS in front of the sun during the recent Endeavor visit:
http://legault.club.fr/iss_endeavour_transit.html
He also grabbed an image of Atlantis + HST in front of the sun:
http://legault.club.fr/atlantis_hst_transit.html. In this posting, he
also describes his technique with photos he made during a recent Florida
visit along with answers to some FAQ.
Enjoy! -- 73, Tom
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:23:03 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: DJ-G7T experiences
To: "'Andrew Glasbrenner'" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT-BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Drew,
Thanks for the thoughts. BTW, there is yet another firmware update. You
have to dig down a bit, as there is nothing at the top level of the Alinco
site to tell you. Also, the English language cloning software beta is
available on the web site. Both came out after I hit the road to Logan, so
it will be 10 days before I can try either.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:52:03 +0200
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD software question
To: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<e17a30d3602cbed9c830493eb6cf07e0.squirrel@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx>
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On Thu, August 6, 2009 22:40, Simon \(HB9DRV\) wrote:
> Hi,
Hi Simon,
> Repeater is FM (AO-51), linear inverting is SSB (VO-52), Split is ISS
> when on FM.
Thanks for the reply,
But how does HRD sat track know the difference between linear and non
linear birds?
The inverting part is done manual by selecting an other modulation. (would
be nice if that was also programmable together with ctcss)
But when you have a sat like DO-64 when rx goes up tx should go down this
wil have influence on the main slider when this is used, but there is no
way to select this when creating a frequency in the repeater/split linear
part.
And the documentation?, is there more then just the wiki pages?
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
73's Jan - PE0SAT
--
With regards PE0SAT
Internet web-page http://www.ham.vgnet.nl/
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:34:43 -0400
From: "Randy" <RSwart1@xxxxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Is HRD Version 5 Released yet?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004e01ca16ee$79fa6140$0301a8c0@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Is HRD Version 5 Released yet?
Randy - N2CUA
"" Gotcha! You are correct. maybe the independences that were discussed with
5.x will take care of that problem. It would be nice to bring up just the
satellite portion only. I have been so use to using WISP32 since my SATGATE
days that I use it most of the time except on my newer radios. HRD indeed is
very good and looks even more promising for the future. I have downloaded
the 5.x beta version but have yet to install it to see how it does.
Regards,
Reid, W4UPD""
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:31:49 -0600
From: Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Elk antenna on tower
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<21baf9ff0908061731h3c4cf5a5o26b84c742e4f08b6@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I didn't mean this as a joke but it seems everyone took it as a joke.
I will try not to askany more questions here.
--
Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota
http://nr5abikeblog.blogspot.com/
http://nr5abeaconblog.blogspot.com/
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:49:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rodney Waln <kc0zhf@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Elk antenna on tower
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <331909.52820.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
if you have any question or need any help with anything,
i am only 150 miles from you,
or email me or get a hold of me on the SD link system,
no joke,
Rodney
kc0zhf
?
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:56:28 -0400
From: w4upd <updwrb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Elk antenna on tower
To: Jerry Felts <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Lighten why don't you! Considering some of the "junk" that goes on here,
these people were trying to give a light hearted view. If you were
paying attention, many of them "did" give you some constructive ideas
that you could try.
Regards,
Reid, W4UPD
Jerry Felts wrote:
> I didn't mean this as a joke but it seems everyone took it as a joke.
> I will try not to askany more questions here.
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:03:56 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Elk antenna on tower
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I know some people just do not have any sence o humor any more.
Geez
Joe
w4upd wrote:
>Lighten why don't you! Considering some of the "junk" that goes on here,
>these people were trying to give a light hearted view. If you were
>paying attention, many of them "did" give you some constructive ideas
>that you could try.
>
>Regards,
>
> Reid, W4UPD
>
>
>Jerry Felts wrote:
>
>
>>I didn't mean this as a joke but it seems everyone took it as a joke.
>>I will try not to askany more questions here.
>>
>>
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:55:13 -0500
From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Elk on tower
To: "Jerry Felts" <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I seem to recall the rule of thumb being at least 1/4 wave at the lowest
frequency of operation, unless the antenna was specifically designed to be
end-mounted to a metal support.
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Felts" <nr5ajerry@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:23 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Elk on tower
> How far away from the mast on my tower should I mount my Elk?? The
> mast is 2" steal anf the lk will be mounted horiz at a 15 deg angle.
>
> --
> Jerry - NR5A - South Dakota
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:04:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Update on my Saturday DM54/DM55 trip
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <27898.85879.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi!
I'm working on plans for Saturday, and looked at my maps again.
Since some are interested in working different counties, I wanted
to correct an item from my earlier e-mail. I will be in Arizona's
Navajo County, not Apache County, on Saturday. I will only be a
few miles/km from the Navajo/Apache county line, the Petrified
Forest National Park, and parts of the Navajo Nation reservation,
but not in the park or on that reservation. Barring problems on
Saturday, I still plan on being at the DM54/DM55 grid boundary
for the passes I referenced in the earlier e-mail.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:48:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New satellite rigs?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Is anyone hearing any rumors of new satellite rigs on the horizon (pun
intended)? The TS2000 and Icom 910H are hitting 9 years on the market, and
Yaesu isn't currently marketing a satellite rig.
73s Jon AA5JG
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