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1. Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
(Mark Thompson)
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3. Re: KEPS formated to use with orbitron (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
4. AMSAT-UK Colloquium Videos (Trevor .)
5. FUNcube Satellite in Electronics Weekly Magazine (Trevor .)
6. Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
(W4ART Arthur Feller)
7. Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
(Mark Spencer)
8. Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
(W4ART Arthur Feller)
9. Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
(Alan VE4YZ)
10. BEVO1/Aggiesat Deployment from STS-127 (Rocky Jones)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight
grand
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <711352.54665.qm@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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-----Original Message-----
From: djmullen tds.net <djmullen@xxx.xxx>
To: BARS <bars@xx.xxxx.xxx>; Joe <joe@xxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 11:46 pm
Subject: [BARS] $8000 to launch a satellite?
Here's an interesting article from The Register:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/04/tube_sat/
Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
Prospective world domination candidates apply here
By Bill Ray ? Get more from this author
Posted in Telecoms, 4th August 2009 14:59?GMT
Interorbital Systems is offering your own orbiting satellite for only $8,000,
including launch, though evil geniuses might balk at the expected 2-week
lifespan before a fiery re-entry.
The plan is to launch 32 of the diminutive TubeSats into low earth orbit,
around 310Km up, using a single Neptune 30 launcher (under development by=2
0Interorbital). The Neptune 30 will time release the TubeSats into orbits that
decay within a few weeks, after which they'll burn up re-entering the Earth's
atmosphere.
The cost of each one is $8,000, though you'll have to pay up front to
guarantee a launch slot, and put the satellite together yourself from the
supplied kit. Stil, at least Interorbital Systems accepts PayPal.
Fitting a doomsday machine into the 13.5cm long TubeSat, which is only 8.7cm
wide, will challenge plans for world domination, but that will be where the
"genius" comes into play.
The company suggests you might use your TubeSat for everything from "Earth-
from-space video imaging" to "private e-mail" or "On-orbit advertising",
though we're not sure what the audience figures would be for the latter. More
realistically, buyers might like to bounce amateur radio signals off their own
bird, or try experiments within orbital conditions.
The radio aboard the TubeSat will operate at 902-928MHz or 2.4-2.4835GHz, the
latter being ideal for Wi-Fi, as well as covering the bands allocated for
amateur satellite operations - allowing Hams to fly even if pigs can't. Full
specifications are available from Interorbital (pdf).
Not that professionals will be allowed to buy TubeSats: "The listed price is
not valid for military, governmental, or large corporate entities. Members of
these organizations should contact Interorbital Systems if interested in
purchasing a TubeSat".
Interorbital Systems has some form in space operations. It was a competitor in
the X-Prize, and has entered Google's Lunar X-Prize to retrieve a bit of the
moon. More practically, the company has been testing engines in the Mojave
desert, but the TubeSat launches planned for next year will be the first time
the company has flown a bird, even a small one. ?
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:23 -0500
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 4, Issue 383
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
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I have been using keepers and insulators that I found at my locally
owned hardware store. Don't go to the big box stores, they won't know
what you're talking about. I use an Ace store, because it's close to my
QTH, but any decent one with good selection of small parts should have
them.
73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO
Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear
bright until you hear them speak.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:28:49 -0500
From: Michael Pfeuffer <pfeufferm@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Parts Question.
To: k7dd@xxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A798911.7060308@xxxxx.xxx>
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Try Directive Systems: http://www.directivesystems.com/
They carry the insulators & keepers.
--Mike WQ5C
n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Not sure if you got a reply, but for C3i try contacting Owen, K3CB.
>
> I also thought at one point, M2 had the plastic insulators and
stainless
> keepers as they were doing some KLM stuff. I don't see anything in
their
> catalog, but might be worth a call.
>
> 73,
> Mike, N1JEZ
> AMSAT 29649
> "A closed mouth gathers no feet"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Baker" <k7dd@xxx.xxx>
> Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:08 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Parts Question.
>
>
>
>> Several years ago I purchased some of the little plastic element
insulator
>> buttons and metal washer finger clamps used to secure the elements in
my
>> homebrew VHF and UHF yagi antennas from a company called C3i. They
made
>> and
>> sold antennas and all the parts to make your own or repair an
antenna.
>> I can't seem to find them anymore on the web nor can I find a source
for
>> the
>> parts.
>> Any one with a source or know how to contact them?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Michael Baker K7DD
>> k7dd@xxx.xxx
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:43:44 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: KEPS formated to use with orbitron
To: Larry Teran <satvader@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4A79EF00.1090409@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
My keps are formatted for use with Orbitron.
It's the only predix software I currently use.
Larry Teran wrote:
> DRAGONSAT1 35690U 09038B 09216.90180704 +.00018898 +00000-0 +99975-4 0
000772 35690 051.6411 056.4238 0005287 101.3819 258.7760 15.80626922000855ANDE
POLLUX SPHERE1 35693U 09038E 09216.65049322 +.00017516 +00000-0 +95014-4 0
000782 35693 051.6409 057.7474 0003658 053.5727 306.5575 15.80147294000785ANDE
CASTOR SPHERE1 35694U 09038F 09216.65100657 +.00009875 +00000-0 +55697-4 0
000702 35694 051.6419 057.7520 0004274 054.7897 305.3491 15.79946104000784
>
>> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:02:43 +0000
>> From: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] KEPS
>>
>> DRAGONSAT
>> 1 35690U 09038B 09216.90180704 +.00018898 +00000-0 +99975-4 0 00077
>> 2 35690 051.6411 056.4238 0005287 101.3819 258.7760 15.80626922000855
>> ANDE POLLUX SPHERE
>> 1 35693U 09038E 09216.65049322 +.00017516 +00000-0 +95014-4 0 00078
>> 2 35693 051.6409 057.7474 0003658 053.5727 306.5575 15.80147294000785
>> ANDE CASTOR SPHERE
>> 1 35694U 09038F 09216.65100657 .00009875 00000-0 55697-4 0 70
>> 2 35694 051.6419 057.7520 0004274 054.7897 305.3491 15.79946104 784
>
>
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GCARES, XWARN.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:58:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium Videos
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <757358.78955.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
The videos of the presentations at this years successful AMSAT-UK
Colloquium in Guildford are now available to watch on the British Amateur
Television Club (BATC) website
Among the fascinating video presentations are:
- FUNcube, the new AMSAT-UK linear transponder satellite project By
Graham Shirville G3VZV
- AMSAT-NA Update By Drew Glasbrenner KO4MA
- AMSAT-DL Update By Peter Guelzow DB2OS
- Electronics and Teddy Bears: A Near-Space Adventure" By Ed Moore
M0TEK and Fergus Noble M0NBL, Cambridge University Spaceflight
- Engineers Wanted! Tempting Teenagers to Explore Technology By Garry
Bulmer, Software Architect
- Medium Earth Orbits By David Bowman G0MRF
All 18 videos can be seen at http://www.batc.tv/
Click on the "Film Archive" icon on the left to see all the videos
available then select the video you wish to see (they start with 2009
AMSAT)
To see the video full screen click on the icon at the bottom of the
video player.
PDFs of the slides from the presentations can be found on the AMSAT-UK
website at
http://www.uk.amsat.org/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,278/
Thanks to the BATC for recording and editing the videos (a time consuming job)
as well providing this invaluable video service at batc.tv for the Amateur
Satellite community.
AMSAT-UK publish a colour A4 newsletter, OSCAR News, full of satellite
information. You can join online at the new URL of
https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subs_form/
AMSAT-UK http://www.uk.amsat.org/
73 Trevor M5AKA
Daily Amateur Radio Email/RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:38:05 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube Satellite in Electronics Weekly Magazine
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <482956.59742.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
FUNcube Satellite in Electronics Weekly Magazine
AMSAT-UK's FUNcube Amateur Radio satellite project is featured in this weeks
Electronics Weekly email newletter and a longer article should appear in the
next issue of the printed magazine which will also be available in digital
format.
The email links to this item on their website at
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/2009/08/04/46667/amsat-uk-launches-
funcube-amateur-satellite-project.htm
You can get a free subscription to the digital version of Electronics Weekly
magazine at
http://www.qssweb.co.uk/controlledcirc/main/index.aspx
Electronics Weekly Magazine
http://www.electronicweekly.com/
AMSAT-UK publish a colour A4 newsletter, OSCAR News, full of satellite
information.
You can join online at the new URL of https://secure.amsat.org.uk/subs_form/
AMSAT-UK http://www.uk.amsat.org/
73 Trevor M5AKA
Daily Amateur Radio Email/RSS News: http://www.southgatearc.org/
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:43:56 -0400
From: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight
grand
To: Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <A3567B47-1941-4E58-8341-DCF2CD799ABC@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed;
delsp=yes
Hi, Mark,
The 902-928 MHz is not available for space stations in any radio
service. 2400 to 2450 MHz is available to the amateur-satellite
service. However, many of the example projects appear unrelated to
radio or may be commercial in nature, so they may not qualify for the
amateur-satellite service.
Wi-Fi equipment operates at very low power and relies upon provisions
in the radio regulations allowing administrations to use frequencies
for any purpose, provided they don't cause interference to stations
operating in accordance with the Table of Frequency Allocations. Low
power in this band fits the bill very nicely for short range use; not
for space operations. Timing issues may also apply.
Some good frequency planning is in order.
73, art.....
W4ART Arlington, VA
On 5-Aug-2009, at 3:52 PM, Mark Thompson wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: djmullen tds.net <djmullen@xxx.xxx>
> To: BARS <bars@xx.xxxx.xxx>; Joe <joe@xxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 11:46 pm
> Subject: [BARS] $8000 to launch a satellite?
>
>
> Here's an interesting article from The Register:
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/04/tube_sat/
>
> Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
> Prospective world domination candidates apply here
> By Bill Ray ? Get more from this author
> Posted in Telecoms, 4th August 2009 14:59 GMT
> Interorbital Systems is offering your own orbiting satellite for
> only $8,000, including launch, though evil geniuses might balk at
> the expected 2-week lifespan before a fiery re-entry.
>
> The plan is to launch 32 of the diminutive TubeSats into low earth
> orbit, around 310Km up, using a single Neptune 30 launcher (under
> development by=2 0Interorbital). The Neptune 30 will time release
> the TubeSats into orbits that decay within a few weeks, after which
> they'll burn up re-entering the Earth's atmosphere.
>
> The cost of each one is $8,000, though you'll have to pay up front
> to guarantee a launch slot, and put the satellite together yourself
> from the supplied kit. Stil, at least Interorbital Systems accepts
> PayPal.
>
> Fitting a doomsday machine into the 13.5cm long TubeSat, which is
> only 8.7cm wide, will challenge plans for world domination, but that
> will be where the "genius" comes into play.
>
> The company suggests you might use your TubeSat for everything from
> "Earth-from-space video imaging" to "private e-mail" or "On-orbit
> advertising", though we're not sure what the audience figures would
> be for the latter. More realistically, buyers might like to bounce
> amateur radio signals off their own bird, or try experiments within
> orbital conditions.
>
> The radio aboard the TubeSat will operate at 902-928MHz or
> 2.4-2.4835GHz, the latter being ideal for Wi-Fi, as well as covering
> the bands allocated for amateur satellite operations - allowing Hams
> to fly even if pigs can't. Full specifications are available from
> Interorbital (pdf).
>
> Not that professionals will be allowed to buy TubeSats: "The listed
> price is not valid for military, governmental, or large corporate
> entities. Members of these organizations should contact Interorbital
> Systems if interested in purchasing a TubeSat".
>
> Interorbital Systems has some form in space operations. It was a
> competitor in the X-Prize, and has entered Google's Lunar X-Prize to
> retrieve a bit of the moon. More practically, the company has been
> testing engines in the Mojave desert, but the TubeSat launches
> planned for next year will be the first time the company has flown a
> bird, even a small one. ?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
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> program!
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Spencer <mspencer12345@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight
grand
To: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>, Mark Thompson
<wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <331870.35853.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
The PDF on their web site also mentions at 420 to 480 mhz radio option with a
500 mw output which might be somewhat more usefull (although the voltage
requirements of this radio seem different than the sattelite can provide ?)
http://interorbital.com/Downloads/TubeSat%20Sales%20Brochure%20Publish%201.0.p
df
----- Original Message ----
From: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
To: Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 4:43:56 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
Hi, Mark,
The 902-928 MHz is not available for space stations in any radio?
service.? 2400 to 2450 MHz is available to the amateur-satellite?
service.? However, many of the example projects appear unrelated to?
radio or may be commercial in nature, so they may not qualify for the?
amateur-satellite service.
Wi-Fi equipment operates at very low power and relies upon provisions?
in the radio regulations allowing administrations to use frequencies?
for any purpose, provided they don't cause interference to stations?
operating in accordance with the Table of Frequency Allocations.? Low?
power in this band fits the bill very nicely for short range use; not?
for space operations.? Timing issues may also apply.
Some good frequency planning is in order.
73, art.....
W4ART? Arlington, VA
On 5-Aug-2009, at 3:52 PM, Mark Thompson wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: djmullen tds.net <djmullen@xxx.xxx>
> To: BARS <bars@xx.xxxx.xxx>; Joe <joe@xxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 11:46 pm
> Subject: [BARS] $8000 to launch a satellite?
>
>
> Here's an interesting article from The Register:
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/04/tube_sat/
>
> Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
> Prospective world domination candidates apply here
> By Bill Ray ? Get more from this author
> Posted in Telecoms, 4th August 2009 14:59 GMT
> Interorbital Systems is offering your own orbiting satellite for?
> only $8,000, including launch, though evil geniuses might balk at?
> the expected 2-week lifespan before a fiery re-entry.
>
> The plan is to launch 32 of the diminutive TubeSats into low earth?
> orbit, around 310Km up, using a single Neptune 30 launcher (under?
> development by=2 0Interorbital). The Neptune 30 will time release?
> the TubeSats into orbits that decay within a few weeks, after which?
> they'll burn up re-entering the Earth's atmosphere.
>
> The cost of each one is $8,000, though you'll have to pay up front?
> to guarantee a launch slot, and put the satellite together yourself?
> from the supplied kit. Stil, at least Interorbital Systems accepts?
> PayPal.
>
> Fitting a doomsday machine into the 13.5cm long TubeSat, which is?
> only 8.7cm wide, will challenge plans for world domination, but that?
> will be where the "genius" comes into play.
>
> The company suggests you might use your TubeSat for everything from?
> "Earth-from-space video imaging" to "private e-mail" or "On-orbit?
> advertising", though we're not sure what the audience figures would?
> be for the latter. More realistically, buyers might like to bounce?
> amateur radio signals off their own bird, or try experiments within?
> orbital conditions.
>
> The radio aboard the TubeSat will operate at 902-928MHz or?
> 2.4-2.4835GHz, the latter being ideal for Wi-Fi, as well as covering?
> the bands allocated for amateur satellite operations - allowing Hams?
> to fly even if pigs can't. Full specifications are available from?
> Interorbital (pdf).
>
> Not that professionals will be allowed to buy TubeSats: "The listed?
> price is not valid for military, governmental, or large corporate?
> entities. Members of these organizations should contact Interorbital?
> Systems if interested in purchasing a TubeSat".
>
> Interorbital Systems has some form in space operations. It was a?
> competitor in the X-Prize, and has entered Google's Lunar X-Prize to?
> retrieve a bit of the moon. More practically, the company has been?
> testing engines in the Mojave desert, but the TubeSat launches?
> planned for next year will be the first time the company has flown a?
> bird, even a small one. ?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the?
> author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite?
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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help!? Donate and follow the story on my TNT web site!!
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_______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:26:44 -0400
From: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight
grand
To: Mark Spencer <mspencer12345@xxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <0DB3D89F-B8AF-4A6F-A316-1F016568AAF8@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed;
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Please, take a look the world Table of Frequency Allocations. An
extract applying to the amateur-satellite service is included as an
Annex in: http://www.iaru.org/satellite/sat-freq-coord.html . (The
paper is worth reading, too!!)
A more complete overview of the radio regulations is available online
thanks to the good folks at the International Radio Club in Geneva:
4U1ITU. See: http://life.itu.int/radioclub/rr/frr.htm .
Happy reading.
Planning and using radio frequencies to maximize use and minimize
interference is a very complex subject that has been developing for
more than a century. There's a lot of substance to know.
All I am suggesting is that the TubeSat folks and their prospective
customers may need to do some good frequency planning before getting
to deeply involved.
I hope this helps.
73, art.....
W4ART Arlington VA
On 5-Aug-2009, at 8:53 PM, Mark Spencer wrote:
>
> The PDF on their web site also mentions at 420 to 480 mhz radio
> option with a 500 mw output which might be somewhat more usefull
> (although the voltage requirements of this radio seem different than
> the sattelite can provide ?)
>
>
http://interorbital.com/Downloads/TubeSat%20Sales%20Brochure%20Publish%201.0.p
df
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
> To: Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 4:43:56 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only
> eight grand
>
> Hi, Mark,
>
> The 902-928 MHz is not available for space stations in any radio
> service. 2400 to 2450 MHz is available to the amateur-satellite
> service. However, many of the example projects appear unrelated to
> radio or may be commercial in nature, so they may not qualify for the
> amateur-satellite service.
>
> Wi-Fi equipment operates at very low power and relies upon provisions
> in the radio regulations allowing administrations to use frequencies
> for any purpose, provided they don't cause interference to stations
> operating in accordance with the Table of Frequency Allocations. Low
> power in this band fits the bill very nicely for short range use; not
> for space operations. Timing issues may also apply.
>
> Some good frequency planning is in order.
>
> 73, art.....
> W4ART Arlington, VA
>
> On 5-Aug-2009, at 3:52 PM, Mark Thompson wrote:
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: djmullen tds.net <djmullen@xxx.xxx>
>> To: BARS <bars@xx.xxxx.xxx>; Joe <joe@xxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 11:46 pm
>> Subject: [BARS] $8000 to launch a satellite?
>>
>>
>> Here's an interesting article from The Register:
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/04/tube_sat/
>>
>> Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
>> Prospective world domination candidates apply here
>> By Bill Ray ? Get more from this author
>> Posted in Telecoms, 4th August 2009 14:59 GMT
>> Interorbital Systems is offering your own orbiting satellite for
>> only $8,000, including launch, though evil geniuses might balk at
>> the expected 2-week lifespan before a fiery re-entry.
>>
>> The plan is to launch 32 of the diminutive TubeSats into low earth
>> orbit, around 310Km up, using a single Neptune 30 launcher (under
>> development by=2 0Interorbital). The Neptune 30 will time release
>> the TubeSats into orbits that decay within a few weeks, after which
>> they'll burn up re-entering the Earth's atmosphere.
>>
>> The cost of each one is $8,000, though you'll have to pay up front
>> to guarantee a launch slot, and put the satellite together yourself
>> from the supplied kit. Stil, at least Interorbital Systems accepts
>> PayPal.
>>
>> Fitting a doomsday machine into the 13.5cm long TubeSat, which is
>> only 8.7cm wide, will challenge plans for world domination, but that
>> will be where the "genius" comes into play.
>>
>> The company suggests you might use your TubeSat for everything from
>> "Earth-from-space video imaging" to "private e-mail" or "On-orbit
>> advertising", though we're not sure what the audience figures would
>> be for the latter. More realistically, buyers might like to bounce
>> amateur radio signals off their own bird, or try experiments within
>> orbital conditions.
>>
>> The radio aboard the TubeSat will operate at 902-928MHz or
>> 2.4-2.4835GHz, the latter being ideal for Wi-Fi, as well as covering
>> the bands allocated for amateur satellite operations - allowing Hams
>> to fly even if pigs can't. Full specifications are available from
>> Interorbital (pdf).
>>
>> Not that professionals will be allowed to buy TubeSats: "The listed
>> price is not valid for military, governmental, or large corporate
>> entities. Members of these organizations should contact Interorbital
>> Systems if interested in purchasing a TubeSat".
>>
>> Interorbital Systems has some form in space operations. It was a
>> competitor in the X-Prize, and has entered Google's Lunar X-Prize to
>> retrieve a bit of the moon. More practically, the company has been
>> testing engines in the Mojave desert, but the TubeSat launches
>> planned for next year will be the first time the company has flown a
>> bird, even a small one. ?
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:22:43 -0500
From: "Alan VE4YZ" <ve4yz@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight
grand
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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They need more that a coordinated frequency. They need a launch vehicle.
They need a track record. They need a launch site.
Googling Neptune 30, Tubesat, Spaceport Tonga and anything else on their web
site reminds me of a circular reference in Excel.
Colour me suspicious.
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of W4ART Arthur Feller
Sent: August 5, 2009 8:27 PM
To: Mark Spencer
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Mark Thompson
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
Please, take a look the world Table of Frequency Allocations. An extract
applying to the amateur-satellite service is included as an
Annex in: http://www.iaru.org/satellite/sat-freq-coord.html . (The
paper is worth reading, too!!)
A more complete overview of the radio regulations is available online thanks
to the good folks at the International Radio Club in Geneva:
4U1ITU. See: http://life.itu.int/radioclub/rr/frr.htm .
Happy reading.
Planning and using radio frequencies to maximize use and minimize
interference is a very complex subject that has been developing for more
than a century. There's a lot of substance to know.
All I am suggesting is that the TubeSat folks and their prospective
customers may need to do some good frequency planning before getting to
deeply involved.
I hope this helps.
73, art.....
W4ART Arlington VA
On 5-Aug-2009, at 8:53 PM, Mark Spencer wrote:
>
> The PDF on their web site also mentions at 420 to 480 mhz radio option
> with a 500 mw output which might be somewhat more usefull (although
> the voltage requirements of this radio seem different than the
> sattelite can provide ?)
>
> http://interorbital.com/Downloads/TubeSat%20Sales%20Brochure%20Publish
> %201.0.pdf
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
> To: Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 4:43:56 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight
> grand
>
> Hi, Mark,
>
> The 902-928 MHz is not available for space stations in any radio
> service. 2400 to 2450 MHz is available to the amateur-satellite
> service. However, many of the example projects appear unrelated to
> radio or may be commercial in nature, so they may not qualify for the
> amateur-satellite service.
>
> Wi-Fi equipment operates at very low power and relies upon provisions
> in the radio regulations allowing administrations to use frequencies
> for any purpose, provided they don't cause interference to stations
> operating in accordance with the Table of Frequency Allocations. Low
> power in this band fits the bill very nicely for short range use; not
> for space operations. Timing issues may also apply.
>
> Some good frequency planning is in order.
>
> 73, art.....
> W4ART Arlington, VA
>
> On 5-Aug-2009, at 3:52 PM, Mark Thompson wrote:
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: djmullen tds.net <djmullen@xxx.xxx>
>> To: BARS <bars@xx.xxxx.xxx>; Joe <joe@xxxx.xxx>
>> Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 11:46 pm
>> Subject: [BARS] $8000 to launch a satellite?
>>
>>
>> Here's an interesting article from The Register:
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/04/tube_sat/
>>
>> Launch your own satellite for only eight grand Prospective world
>> domination candidates apply here By Bill Ray . Get more from this
>> author Posted in Telecoms, 4th August 2009 14:59 GMT Interorbital
>> Systems is offering your own orbiting satellite for only $8,000,
>> including launch, though evil geniuses might balk at the expected
>> 2-week lifespan before a fiery re-entry.
>>
>> The plan is to launch 32 of the diminutive TubeSats into low earth
>> orbit, around 310Km up, using a single Neptune 30 launcher (under
>> development by=2 0Interorbital). The Neptune 30 will time release the
>> TubeSats into orbits that decay within a few weeks, after which
>> they'll burn up re-entering the Earth's atmosphere.
>>
>> The cost of each one is $8,000, though you'll have to pay up front to
>> guarantee a launch slot, and put the satellite together yourself from
>> the supplied kit. Stil, at least Interorbital Systems accepts PayPal.
>>
>> Fitting a doomsday machine into the 13.5cm long TubeSat, which is
>> only 8.7cm wide, will challenge plans for world domination, but that
>> will be where the "genius" comes into play.
>>
>> The company suggests you might use your TubeSat for everything from
>> "Earth-from-space video imaging" to "private e-mail" or "On-orbit
>> advertising", though we're not sure what the audience figures would
>> be for the latter. More realistically, buyers might like to bounce
>> amateur radio signals off their own bird, or try experiments within
>> orbital conditions.
>>
>> The radio aboard the TubeSat will operate at 902-928MHz or
>> 2.4-2.4835GHz, the latter being ideal for Wi-Fi, as well as covering
>> the bands allocated for amateur satellite operations - allowing Hams
>> to fly even if pigs can't. Full specifications are available from
>> Interorbital (pdf).
>>
>> Not that professionals will be allowed to buy TubeSats: "The listed
>> price is not valid for military, governmental, or large corporate
>> entities. Members of these organizations should contact Interorbital
>> Systems if interested in purchasing a TubeSat".
>>
>> Interorbital Systems has some form in space operations. It was a
>> competitor in the X-Prize, and has entered Google's Lunar X-Prize to
>> retrieve a bit of the moon. More practically, the company has been
>> testing engines in the Mojave desert, but the TubeSat launches
>> planned for next year will be the first time the company has flown a
>> bird, even a small one. R
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:42:45 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] BEVO1/Aggiesat Deployment from STS-127
To: <vegakp@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W23F3B782D8E18146A165B1D60A0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
http://aggiesat.org/images/projects/aggiesat2/s127e012218.png
This is an interesting picture. Close examination of it seems to indicate
that "some" of the separation system worked, but some of it hung up. Kind of
like what happened to the Agena Target Adapter that was launched for I think
Gemini 9.
Robert WB5MZO
> From: vegakp@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:03:54 -0700
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] BEVO1 Deployment from STS-127
>
> The University of Texas at Austin deployed BEVO1 in space on July 30, 2009
> at 7:27 AM CDT via the STS-127 Space Shuttle Picosatellite Launcher (SSPL).
>
> We appreciate anyone who can help us tracking BEVO1!
>
> BEVO1 Downlink Information:
>
> Beacon Mode
> Downlink Freq: 437.325 MHz
> Modulation: FM, 200mW, Morse Code, ~20 WPM
>
> Data Mode
> Downlink Freq: 437.325 MHz
> Modulation:
> GMSK, 1W, 9600 baud, AX.25 (default)
> FM, 1W, Bell 202, AX.25
> TLE's:
>
>
> 1 99999U 9211.52399245 .00015326 99081-9 77971-4 0 19
> 2 99999 51.6397 84.3142 0004954 91.3966 248.8994 15.80682654 2322
>
>
>
> BEVO1 is a 12.5 cm cube and 3 kg in mass. The purpose of the mission is to
> collect data from NASA's DRAGON GPS receiver.
>
> BEVO1 has two modes, data and beacon. The data mode is on over most parts of
> the United States, and the rest of the time, the satellite is in beacon
> mode. Also, anyone tracking BEVO1 can record what they hear at
> http://paradigm.ae.utexas.edu/opsThe University of Texas also has additional
> information at: http://www.utexas.edu/news/2009/06/09/picosatellite/
>
> NASA describes DRAGONSat as an anticipated eight-year program with a launch
> of the satellites approximately every two years. The first three missions
> will test individual components and subsystems while the final mission will
> culminate with the successful docking of two satellites. Refer to
> http://tinyurl.com/m2blyc for additional mission information.
>
> The University of Texas at Austin has developed BEVO1 and Texas
> A&M University has developed AggieSat-2 for this mission. Both satellites
> will perform the initial data acquition testing of the DRAGONSat program.
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