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F1OYP > ALL 29.08.12 16:10l 111 Lines 4339 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Re: Please note! (UT1HZM)
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From: F1OYP@F1OYP.FAQI.FRA.EU
To : ALL@WW
Hi Dave and all readers , and more specialy for UT1HZM (radio club)
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>
>From: VK2AWZ@VK6ZRT.#BUN.#WA.AUS.OC
>To : SYSOPS@WW
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> As a frequent sender of PMail, I find that if one can put up with an SP
>being slower than snail mail, or never getting there at all. I put it up
>as @WW or a bulletin @ww, as it will arrive faster than a speeding train!
> I think the trouble is that many BBS's do not have a path to my
>recipients, and if a BBS lists all of his "no route to"? it is extensive
>and sometimes outnumbers the number of normal daily bulletin headers
>received.
> Personally my SP's don't have anything of a really personal nature, so I
>don't care who reads them. If secrecy is necessary I muse Email.
> I think too if you are accepted as a Winpac Telnet user, the BBS
>sets you as having BBS privileges, for it to work properly, which again
>voids secrecy of the old RF Pmail systems?
>73 - Dave, VK2AWZ @ VK@ZRT
Tnks for your (P)ersonal comments on this item ,
yes of course , if you send a bulletin@ww it will be forwarded right now
to the other end of the world , while a P msg could stay for months on pending
mail on some BBS , founding no route to be sent to the good destination ...
As i learned in the 90's , first job of a SYSOP is to work hard and learn how to
find a way to forward P msgs from his BBS to front and following partners.
In early packet days , we (sysops) had to know which hierarchical adress we had
to set for any continent , country , region and sometimes towns.
Nowadays , with the "plug-and-play" generation , with help of internet one can think
there's no need to learn or study how to find the rare route to forward P mails ! ? !
Don't you know ?
False answer !
- The end of packet radio is simply the fault to bbs'owners who don't care anymore
to this problem.
- Why so much (P)ersonal msgs and anwsers are now sent in Bulls@ww ?
- Packet radio is now polluted as internet where answers to a msg sent via a mailing list
is now re-sent to everybody known in this list ( funny when it's a real personal thinking
the owner don't want to send to everyone ... and it does ! ! )
Now with (relative) old bbs systems we use , with the WP (white page) automatic routing
dialogue between systems , most of hierarchical adresses are corrupted.
The only thing i can do via my bbs is to forward P mails to my front bbs
which will be the nearest one of the expected destination.
Well , it's a problem . May we find a solution , or is it the end of Packet-radio ?
But the answer i wanted to do in this msg is for UT1HZM :
As some other sysops said , messages adressed to a sysop ARE TO BE (P)ersonal
simply because if you send any message in (B)ulletin @WW , everybody having a permission
to connect RF or telnet bbs gateways (whole ham community ) will read this message.
If i send a P msg to sysop@ww , ON-LY sysops of all bbs of the world will read my complaint
or the technical message i want them to read.
( note that the adress is SYSOP @ WW , sent to one and only person and not sysop's' , most bbs
have a script or setting file to pick this msg and make a copy to the owner of the bbs . )
That's what i just wanted to do.
That's what every sysop is doing till packet radio is alive in ham world.
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With the following advice you sent , now if applied , no service message
will be sent direct to the sysop ..., and every user asking for a telnet
access with password to his sysop will be stored in Hold msgs.
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>>Also if you operate F6FBB BBS pse add to REJECT.sys follow line
>>to HOLD this error behavior:
>>H P * WW SYSOP * 0
>>Then P message for sysop@ww will be holded and should be replaced
>>by Your hands to B-type!
>>73, Sergej
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and this will be an error to replace P as B for this type of (P)rivate message !
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PS : just taking the opportunity to remind you an excellent documentation on packet radio
(some mods in times , but it is still acting) : a great thanks to Larry !
INTRODUCTION TO PACKET RADIO
By Larry Kenney, WB9LOZ
http://www.choisser.com/packet/
to be shared to new comers to packet radio.
73 de F1OYP
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