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VE3UIL > PACKET 13.08.10 18:42l 150 Lines 6247 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
BID : 4903_VE3UIL
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Subj: Re: The FUTURE of Packet...an omen
Path: IZ3LSV<IK2XDE<DB0RES<DK0WUE<IK6ZDE<VE2PKT<VE3UIL
Sent: 100813/1630Z 4903@VE3UIL.#EON.ON.CAN.NOAM BPQ1.0.4
Hi Peter
Thank you for writing this. It is interesting to see other people's
perspective. In general, I agree with what you have said.
I guess the question is, "How do we undo some of this?"
I have tried the Cathedral approach, "Build it and they shall come".
This hasn't been overly successful. I have even tried giving people a
complete station only to have it end up in the box I gave it to the guy in.
I seem to recall Rod VK2DOT having a similar problem even to the point
where he rounded up spare computers and gave them to people, only to
find that the computers ended up being put to other uses.
I have even had some outright opposition to what I have been doing. It
was suggested by ARES people that Packet BBSs are of no use to EMComm
because they are too complicated to run.
On the other hand I am thrilled with the extension to our network that
has been added by Gil VE3BHA. He contacted me and asked how to extend
my NODE to him over the Internet, so that he could make RF connections
to VE3STP and VE3NRR up the Ottawa Valley from him. Perhaps this will
inspire more interest and enable us to add an RF link between Gil and
myself.
I am also actively working with a group testing the new BPQ BBS software
written by John Wiseman G8BPQ. Work is still being done on some of the
other BBS software too.
Then just yesterday I received a call via Echolink from CHIN, 9M2CW in
West Malaysia, who during our discussion expressed an interest in
getting his old packet system running again.
So Peter there is always hope.
Thanks again for the interest and views on packet.
--
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Mike Ligeza - VE3UIL
Smiths Falls, ON
Canada
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> From: VE3WBZ@VA3BAL.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
> To : PACKET@WW
>
> TO: PACKET @WW
> FR: VE3WBZ@ Good Question (;
>
> DT: Friday, August 13th., 2010 @ 0845hrs EST
>
> Hello all whom might be reading ....
>
> When I last did this thread, and the title the future of Packet
> there was lots of traffic to the thread, and lots of folks
> posting their views, and then after about "15" postings it
> all died away, like it seems to be doing, back to "normal"
> with postings by what seem like "bots" and here and there
> postings ..hahahahaa...by me from "2008".
>
> The most interesting email was received, letting me know in
> their area, and without giving away too much or a clue,
> to location, it seems they all are as exists here, a clique
> onto themselves....etc. Not a "hobby" sort of feeling
> but WE'll do it our way ... to the end result, an announcement
> in the end, an SB to all..that they are closing down.
>
> Some interesting points, and no stats here...just the point;
>
> <1> Due to PACKET operations some operators etc... were in court.
>
> <2> No support by clubs or individual users local or elsewhere
> to assist keeping a station on the air, and in the past
> this was done< No callsigns or names mentioned>
>
> <3> One system carrys a posting, yet the other doesn't...Why?
> Funny thing I noticed.
>
> <4> The "hobby" is tring, more and more to mate radio to or
> with the Internet. More Internet ...less radio. More
> programs and less radio, then comes like some now have
> their cyber band on the Internet with nothing to do with
> radio, and thus no need for a licence. Why have a call
> if Totally on the Internet?
>
> <5> From one of the Emergency Groups, came all about their
> Packet innvolvement. OK. If they are needed the
> Government body will call them. Of course this depends
> on the circumstances, and on the news, and all, I have
> seen Emergency this and that ... not used as intended
> as it too was a casualty.
>
> <6> It was pointed out that Packet was the Ham's best kept
> secret, as a mode for it's benefit which is being able
> to make a posting SP or SB and those at where ever can
> retrieve it when on-air ... NO other part of Ham Radio
> can claim that .... as you are on or not ... missed
> connection ...BUT not Packet. Loose Packet and
> this wonderous benfit is gone.
>
> <7> Another nail in the coffin, came from folks sick of
> reading postings by a few, from people with email
> addresses and originating on Internet. Respond
> to the station ...no reply, and mostlikely not
> passed to the addressee. Then one reads from
> the call posting this stuff, that they are not
> responsible ???? If this makes traffic for
> the BBSes, then Packet is doomed...to being
> stuffed with this kind of postings.
>
> I am sure there is other things I have missed, as I
> am doing this on the keyboard, and from memory
> of those things sent to net, and all I got totalling
> "14" people.
>
> I am wishfull thinking on my part...in hopes that
> behind the scenes there is some work being done
> locally and Internationally to have a bright
> future ... but given Internet ...and hearing
> so many hams going there and their reasons
> I seem to hear "sheep" ... so I guess we'll
> see what happens.
>
> "Happy Packeteering ..."
> Pete VE3WBZ
> ve3wbz@hotmail.com
>
>
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