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G4APL > PACKET 23.07.10 16:46l 183 Lines 6070 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Re: What is OUR Future????
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Sent: 100723/1437Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EU $:37562G4APL
T:From: Paul Lewis <g4apl@gb7cip.ampr.org>
T:Newsgroups: ampr.packet.general
T:Message-Id: <ckXHkFA5laSMFwbL@g4apl.ampr.org>
In article <24263_VE2PKT@hamradio>, ve2pkt%ve2pkt.#qbc.qc.can.noam@gb7ci
p.ampr.org writes
>From: VE2PKT@VE2PKT.#QBC.QC.CAN.NOAM
>To : PACKET@WW
>
>
>Hi Rod and the few packetters left.
>
>>
>>Hi All, Lets get the ball rolling.
>
>Will try, but in summer time, I am not to actif.
>
>>#1 - One thinks that the packet network is user un-friendly.
>
>What???
>
>>The packet network has been used for & primarly used for BBS forwarding.
>
>Well, now these day I'll say yes, but mids 80 early 90, a lots of chat
>was done on packet, I was use to have some Chat Nodes, busy evrey evening
>not those chat are empty.
>
>>Lets make it so users can easily go from Node to Node.
>
>if the user do the Command N once connected to a node, the list
>will appear, what's more simple?
>
>>Let us make a series of Nodes around the country & around the world.
>
>it's not what we all try to do? but node like BBS come and goes with
>out notice.
>
>>Let us not limit nodes in an area.
>
>As far I know the few nodes left are world wide open.
>
>>Let us have a picture of links to nodes made easier for users.
>
>Ok, this is what I do for the Province of Quebec, Sorry only
>avail on Internet.
>
>http://ve2pkt.dyndns.org/html/fhttp://ve2pkt.dyndns.org/html/files/ham-
>files/Digital%20Mode/packet/nodes/node%20MAP.jpg
>
>>OK - make the Node the entry point via RF or Telnet, or both,
>
>Personnaly I put on my maps only nodes that have at least one RF port.
>
>>with the links as AXUDP links; Using say port 93.
>>Let us have BBS forwarding using AXUDP port 10093.
>>[however if not convient for the Node, then any port used.]
>>Let us have not a toooo rigid system.
>
>That part I do agree, ve2pkt-3 and ve2pkt-4 use different ports, Mostly to
>accommodate other nodes on AXUDP.
>
>>Lets have a link map & connection associated with each Node.
>
>this will take time, a lot's of time. Unless a genius in computor programming
>…can write and application wich will contact evrey nodes on the list and plot
>them
>on a map.
>
>>[eg When a user types I for Info at a node, a list of connection paths is
>displayed
>>for that Node - eg Canada = c 15 ve3uil-7]
>
>100% agreed
>
>>Let users send bulletins to where they can reach - ie what country & node,
etc.>
>most of the reminding Bmost of the reminding BBS let do that all ready,
>otherwise no trafic will flow.
>
>>I am undecided to use XRouter/DOS or BPQ32/Win2000 for the job as Node.
>>Whatever we use the Node will have a link to my BPQMail & XFbb BBS's.
>>XRouter is far more friendler than BPQ32 but unfortunately XRouter runs under
>DOS.
>>With XRouter - links to other nodes are via different node ports;
>>and with the Ports command you get a list of ports & Nodes.
>
>Personnaly I have Xrouter and Xnet, xrouter run on a OLD PC, I tried it on a
dos>emutation on linux, even on VMWare, but I was needed at least 4 coms ports
for
>my radios
>and I have only a old ISA digiboard card, and my linux PC is all PCI.
>
>>In the next few days we will put a crude map onto my web site,
>>at http://vk2dot.dyndns.org
>
>I will look at it for sure.
>
>
>73 de Jean, VE2PKT
>
>
>>
>------
>
>Sysop de: VE2PKT (BBS), VE2PKT-9 (DXCluster), VE2PKT-10 (Winlink)
Ho Peter, jean and All
From a UK Local View point.
Like other I have been hooked on Packet Radio since the Mid 1980's with
real time one to one and Chat nodes. The first one in late 1980s APLTLK.
Also spent may happy hours node hopping around the UK, Europe via
1200/9600/19200bd radio links and North Americia USA/Canada via the
London LONNY/New York link.
http://www.theskywaves.net/ax25/How_To_Use_Packet_Radio_G4APL.pdf
Got involved with tcpip NOS in the late 1980's as JNOS was being
developed testing the features mainly interested in the convers server
real time chat.
Then opened up a TCPIP Hub GB7CIP to supplement the 15 X1J4 TheNet nodes
that Bryan G0SYR and I g4apl ran as one system over three site.
Later as two AX25 BBS's closed down, I was asked to take over handling
the local AX25 BBS and incorporated that in the tcpip<ax25>tcpip<ax25>
gate here. for Bulletin/Newsgroup forwarding as part of the UKIP
network.
Providing gateway links for the AX25/TCPIP Packet stations. Peaked in
2000. (map not updated since the depressing seeing hubs close down.
Related to not being able to get NOV's to operate on 70cms due to
restrictions for a few years. Interest wained during this period.
At one stage my system had 13 serial ports with 9 Tiny2's and HF Pactor.
Currently we are just keeping the currently equipment working, and
disabling radio interfaces that are no longer used.
Re the point on Maps
The Uk Sysops attempted to keep an updated map
Due to lack of information being feedback to our co-ordinator
g0syr@gb7cip.#32.gbr.eu
The latest update we have is April 2005
A lot of the nodes listed have closed down
UK NetRom Node Radio Link
http://www.theskywaves.net/netmaps/rflinks.gif
UK NetRom Radio & Internet Links
http://www.theskywaves.net/netmaps/uknodes.gif
UK BBS's seen active status May 2010
http://www.theskywaves.net/bbslist/BBSLIST.htm
Look forward to real time contacts, though I have dropped in on some
packet operators in the past when node hopping. Who do not know how to
respond when connected to. Due to their system are just set up for auto
BBS forwarding and download/uploads.
Arh those where the days.
Re further improvments, time has passed. Most of the SysOp and packet
fans that we first started experimenting with. Are now 25+ years older.
keep the views coming, I enjoy reading them
Well thats my bit
73 Paul g4apl SysOp GB7CIP/GB7CR
amprnet g4apl@gb7cip.ampr.org Internet paul@skywaves.demon.co.uk
ax25 g4apl@gb7cip.#32.gbr.eu amprnet webserver http://gb7cip.ampr.org
Using Turnpike and Windows XPPro Desk Top via 10/100mbit LAN
1200bd, 9600bd, 19200bd VHF UHF and 13cm wireless links &
HF PACTOR Forwarding USB 7.051.5MHz 14.110.5MHz 21.112.0MHz MARK QRG
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