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Subj: RE:KB2VXA on oor Bob VK6BE
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From: G6XCJ@GB7COW.#44.GBR.EU
To : INFO@WW
> FR: VE3WBZ@VA3BAL.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
>
> DT: Tuesday,October 20th.,2009 @ 0905hrs JPST
>
> << Quoting KB2VXA to INFO @WW >>
>> From : KB2VXA To : INFO @WW
>> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 19-Oct 23:36
>> Bid : 46155_VK6ZRT Message # : 27196
>> Title : Re: VE3WBZ > Bob gone
>>
>> From: KB2VXA@VK6ZRT.#BUN.#WA.AUS.OC
>> To : INFO@WW
>
> Hi Warren, and all, and I love your new Packet Address...
YOU SAY YOU ARE ON SKYPE YET NO ADDRESS????
>
> I thought you were going to lament the passing out of
> Packet of oor Bob VK6BE,<We all lament the closure of Bob on Packet as he was so much easier to read
and study than EBT....2 or 3k ok but 6 or 7k? If i knew how to do it i
would set up my own 24/7 packet station BBS as i have noone within 200
miles offering service> but okay, no problem if you,
> we, us, whatever touch on the BBS closings and pay
> homage to the many sysops, both well missed, and
> those not so well missed, and forgotten.
>
>> Don't forget Ray VK2TV, his BBS gone and he with it.
>> He lost interest in packet altogether quite a while back
>> and was battling himself to keep the BBS running as a
>> courtesy to others. Finally circumstances gave him reason
>> to shut it all down and quit altogether.
>> This gave his immediate forwarding partner reason,
>> he had no users so that BBS is QRT as well.
>
> Okay, so gone too is Ray. I caught his dieing Swan Act
> which was so in contrast to an email I received from him
> sometime ago, and he didn't ....oh well not worth bringing
> up again, like his final wriggles in the sands of time,
> was they closed over top of him and his BBS. RIP to VK2TV.
You said you were in the Black Watch? When was that then? Like most
regiments these days they have all come under County regiments or The
Rifles which was formerly part of my regiment now 7 Bn strong!
>
> I do see his reason for starting a BBS, as was the reason
> for over 10years ago I started my BBS, for reasons now
> that have been overcome and closed since 2005...well
> "officially" but now apparantly re-started by my former
> users to the tune they have now 100 users registered and
> climbing.
>
>> Add to the list those you have been seeing giving notice
>> over the last few months and you have a large portion of
>> Oz gone bye bye.
bye bye where you going? sounds like you are on your own these days with
no one to pamper thee breekie in bed? what?
Well i managed to get the work done on the DR635 all now tinky wizz. May
be i will use it for BBS?
>
> There are many reasons for a BBS closing, seen it world wide
> and have communicated with those sysops and even made as you
> might know Packet appeals to keep them going. I even fielded
> wants and got equipment exchanges and had some success.
>
>> Each had his reasons and I'll venture a guess that the
>> degeneration of the English speaking sub network into a
>> home for trolls<x what is a troll or hatstand on BBS?> who would be booted off the majority of
>> internet forums in a heartbeat had something to do with
>> driving users away and leaving sysops with nothing to do
>> but waste electricity.
Ah well time to go watch box.
>
> I used to laughly have the top reasons for chopping a BBS,
> foreign languages was not a reason, as I had forums in the
> BBS which promoted language and translation and it ran
> despite the Network I belonged to got silly, and dropped
> or was dropped. Nothing new with the forums in the
> Internet to those on a BBS, whether it is Ham radio
> packet or a Landline BBS. There is a reason users
> on a BBS or Landline dial-up or Telenet BBS leave, and
> it isn't other users, it is progress and technology
> and better programs to have a forum in, and now there
> is sight and sound and the video, and time marches on...
>
> The Biggest Reason for a BBS closing, whether in private
> hands like mine, or a club is the user. If he or she
> isn't there, it is because they have move on to better
> digs, and I have already stated why. This need to
> push Radio connectivity to the Internet, dropping all
> RF ...or "the reason for the hobby...radio".
>
> Look at the local Ham club, and Packet there... they
> were supposed to be the last bastion of Ham Radio yet
> they push and blab every morning on the way to work
> how to connect more and more Internet to it, and
> less and less RF or Radio....but sitting at home
> on the computer playing radio in some Internet
> site that has a radio on their screens and
> operating with other "nits" around the world
> on their make believe ham bands free of this and
> that .... how wonderful.
>
> Should I mention how the local respected Ham Club
> here conducted a Emergency Radio Test when the town
> had an Emergency Test of all resources known?
>
> If there is a good reason for closure it is Electrical
> Power needed to run the components that make a BBS
> station. Also the cost for these components such
> as a computer, and other items, even to have access
> to the BBS by dial-up as FBB does or did allow for.
>
> In these times of cutting costs, well best pick is
> the money angle, and no other save perhaps health
> reason and having to monitor it all the time.
>
>> Word has it that packet is the least popular of all Amateur
>> activities, one peek at a BBS pretty much verifies it and
>> it doesn't take a genius to figure out why.
>> Another word has it that so many have let the licenses
>> expire because it's pretty much the same around the bands,
>> a peek at the radio related non Amateur forums verifies
>> this as well.
>
> Thats is obvious too... If you really want to see it, look
> at the public and high schools....the old Ham shack has been
> replaced by a computer lab ...hooked up to the Internet.
>
>> Radio is simply a window through which society may be
>> viewed and no matter which one you look in you see pretty
>> much the same thing.
>
> Yeah ....isn't that the case.
>
>> The ancient Chinese curse lies heavily upon us:
>> May you live in interesting times.
>>
>> 73 de Warren
>>
>> [End of Message #27196 from KB2VXA]
>
> Whatever happened to those Good Old days? if they were
> so great., Why then do we want them back? If we want
> progress and technology ... why keep old things going?
> why? Why ? ....It makes me think of the days I met
> friends of yours Warren...old railway men, and the
> families of old railroaders, and is it not interesting
> that even today, reunions are ongoing, and if not
> reunions clubs are ongoing, and in some activites
> and championships there is a dino from the past
> the railway telegrapher, sending out his morse code
> and who is the fastest .... yet ... the family I met
> and the champion telegrapher had only one connection
> to the Railway here in Canada ...it was a Great-Great
> Grandfather.
>
> Oh well Warren. After how many years... as per the
> title Bob VK6BE, like his stands and viewpoints or not
> is gone from packet. Gone too are a few sysops,
> gone too perhaps some unknown users.
>
> The few Dinos left will also meet their fate, or
> perhaps the TNC will fail, or the radio, and with
> a choice of repair < cct board ...perhaps out of date>
> or chuck it.... might be the later, and thus no use for
> the TNC ...so to the nearest fleamarket to be sold as
> an oddity ...what's this?
>
> Aaaaah saved by breakie.... SO see you later, and
> now lets see if we can get BOB back online... :)
>
> 73 Pete VE3WBZ
>
UIV32 is a direct two way RF comms, there are many options via telnet or
ISS or RF. Some seagoing folk set up their own stations in their radio
rooms and remain in contact at a specific time all through thei voyage
Best wishes, Rodge (g0cjm/g6xcj at gb7cow.#44.gbr.eu)
Somehere in European Union/EEC
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