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Subj: RE:KB2VXA on oor Bob VK6BE
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To : INFO@WW
TO: INFO @WW
FR: VE3WBZ@VA3BAL.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
DT: Tuesday,October 20th.,2009 @ 0905hrs JPST
<< Quoting KB2VXA to INFO @WW >>
> From : KB2VXA To : INFO @WW
> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 19-Oct 23:36
> Bid : 46155_VK6ZRT Message # : 27196
> Title : Re: VE3WBZ > Bob gone
>
> From: KB2VXA@VK6ZRT.#BUN.#WA.AUS.OC
> To : INFO@WW
Hi Warren, and all, and I love your new Packet Address...
I thought you were going to lament the passing out of
Packet of oor Bob VK6BE, but okay, no problem if you,
we, us, whatever touch on the BBS closings and pay
homage to the many sysops, both well missed, and
those not so well missed, and forgotten.
> Don't forget Ray VK2TV, his BBS gone and he with it.
> He lost interest in packet altogether quite a while back
> and was battling himself to keep the BBS running as a
> courtesy to others. Finally circumstances gave him reason
> to shut it all down and quit altogether.
> This gave his immediate forwarding partner reason,
> he had no users so that BBS is QRT as well.
Okay, so gone too is Ray. I caught his dieing Swan Act
which was so in contrast to an email I received from him
sometime ago, and he didn't ....oh well not worth bringing
up again, like his final wriggles in the sands of time,
was they closed over top of him and his BBS. RIP to VK2TV.
I do see his reason for starting a BBS, as was the reason
for over 10years ago I started my BBS, for reasons now
that have been overcome and closed since 2005...well
"officially" but now apparantly re-started by my former
users to the tune they have now 100 users registered and
climbing.
> Add to the list those you have been seeing giving notice
> over the last few months and you have a large portion of
> Oz gone bye bye.
There are many reasons for a BBS closing, seen it world wide
and have communicated with those sysops and even made as you
might know Packet appeals to keep them going. I even fielded
wants and got equipment exchanges and had some success.
> Each had his reasons and I'll venture a guess that the
> degeneration of the English speaking sub network into a
> home for trolls who would be booted off the majority of
> internet forums in a heartbeat had something to do with
> driving users away and leaving sysops with nothing to do
> but waste electricity.
I used to laughly have the top reasons for chopping a BBS,
foreign languages was not a reason, as I had forums in the
BBS which promoted language and translation and it ran
despite the Network I belonged to got silly, and dropped
or was dropped. Nothing new with the forums in the
Internet to those on a BBS, whether it is Ham radio
packet or a Landline BBS. There is a reason users
on a BBS or Landline dial-up or Telenet BBS leave, and
it isn't other users, it is progress and technology
and better programs to have a forum in, and now there
is sight and sound and the video, and time marches on...
The Biggest Reason for a BBS closing, whether in private
hands like mine, or a club is the user. If he or she
isn't there, it is because they have move on to better
digs, and I have already stated why. This need to
push Radio connectivity to the Internet, dropping all
RF ...or "the reason for the hobby...radio".
Look at the local Ham club, and Packet there... they
were supposed to be the last bastion of Ham Radio yet
they push and blab every morning on the way to work
how to connect more and more Internet to it, and
less and less RF or Radio....but sitting at home
on the computer playing radio in some Internet
site that has a radio on their screens and
operating with other "nits" around the world
on their make believe ham bands free of this and
that .... how wonderful.
Should I mention how the local respected Ham Club
here conducted a Emergency Radio Test when the town
had an Emergency Test of all resources known?
If there is a good reason for closure it is Electrical
Power needed to run the components that make a BBS
station. Also the cost for these components such
as a computer, and other items, even to have access
to the BBS by dial-up as FBB does or did allow for.
In these times of cutting costs, well best pick is
the money angle, and no other save perhaps health
reason and having to monitor it all the time.
> Word has it that packet is the least popular of all Amateur
> activities, one peek at a BBS pretty much verifies it and
> it doesn't take a genius to figure out why.
> Another word has it that so many have let the licenses
> expire because it's pretty much the same around the bands,
> a peek at the radio related non Amateur forums verifies
> this as well.
Thats is obvious too... If you really want to see it, look
at the public and high schools....the old Ham shack has been
replaced by a computer lab ...hooked up to the Internet.
> Radio is simply a window through which society may be
> viewed and no matter which one you look in you see pretty
> much the same thing.
Yeah ....isn't that the case.
> The ancient Chinese curse lies heavily upon us:
> May you live in interesting times.
>
> 73 de Warren
>
> [End of Message #27196 from KB2VXA]
Whatever happened to those Good Old days? if they were
so great., Why then do we want them back? If we want
progress and technology ... why keep old things going?
why? Why ? ....It makes me think of the days I met
friends of yours Warren...old railway men, and the
families of old railroaders, and is it not interesting
that even today, reunions are ongoing, and if not
reunions clubs are ongoing, and in some activites
and championships there is a dino from the past
the railway telegrapher, sending out his morse code
and who is the fastest .... yet ... the family I met
and the champion telegrapher had only one connection
to the Railway here in Canada ...it was a Great-Great
Grandfather.
Oh well Warren. After how many years... as per the
title Bob VK6BE, like his stands and viewpoints or not
is gone from packet. Gone too are a few sysops,
gone too perhaps some unknown users.
The few Dinos left will also meet their fate, or
perhaps the TNC will fail, or the radio, and with
a choice of repair < cct board ...perhaps out of date>
or chuck it.... might be the later, and thus no use for
the TNC ...so to the nearest fleamarket to be sold as
an oddity ...what's this?
Aaaaah saved by breakie.... SO see you later, and
now lets see if we can get BOB back online... :)
73 Pete VE3WBZ
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